What was the "Next Big Thing" when you started programming?
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Do you have any of the original Manuals for the Altair (written by Forrest M Mimms III of Radio Shack fame I believe) I'm partically interested in a complete schematic of the beast as I can't find one. I'm not a programmer but an Electronics engineer made to play with Windoze! Glenn
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OS2 really did kill DOS .... kinda sorta. OS2 was initially a joint venture between IBM and Microsoft. Late in the game, the Microsoft devs disappeared and before you know it NT hit the market (amazing like OS2 with some improvements). And the rest is history.
I thought NT was the product of ex-VMS engineers. :-D
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Inspired by this SO thread, What was "the next big thing" when you guys started programming? I remember a couple things in college: -Java was big. Write once, run anywhere...people believed it. -There was some interest in, and lots of articles about, Microsoft's new version of COM+, which they named DotNet. Oh, and some interest in the Java copycat they called C#. -I distinctly remember my college textbooks claiming "natural languages" would be the future of programming. -To prepare me for the future, my college taught us Fortran and C. The closest thing I've come to utilizing either of these is the rare piece of C++ code I have to deal with on contracting gigs.
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Judah Himango -
Inspired by this SO thread, What was "the next big thing" when you guys started programming? I remember a couple things in college: -Java was big. Write once, run anywhere...people believed it. -There was some interest in, and lots of articles about, Microsoft's new version of COM+, which they named DotNet. Oh, and some interest in the Java copycat they called C#. -I distinctly remember my college textbooks claiming "natural languages" would be the future of programming. -To prepare me for the future, my college taught us Fortran and C. The closest thing I've come to utilizing either of these is the rare piece of C++ code I have to deal with on contracting gigs.
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Judah Himango -
Inspired by this SO thread, What was "the next big thing" when you guys started programming? I remember a couple things in college: -Java was big. Write once, run anywhere...people believed it. -There was some interest in, and lots of articles about, Microsoft's new version of COM+, which they named DotNet. Oh, and some interest in the Java copycat they called C#. -I distinctly remember my college textbooks claiming "natural languages" would be the future of programming. -To prepare me for the future, my college taught us Fortran and C. The closest thing I've come to utilizing either of these is the rare piece of C++ code I have to deal with on contracting gigs.
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Judah HimangoWow! In my second year as a CS major, Popular Electronics had a picture of the MITS Altair on the cover. When I saw that, I knew right then to change direction and not put so much emphasis into programming mainframes with punched cards. And consequently, I was much further ahead of most people waking up to the micro revolution. I was really surprised that it took the industry so long to realize the benefit of the personal/individual computer. The only reason I'm not filthy rich, is that I was a drunken horndog and an immature dork (much like most of my contemporaries). I let probably 10+ fantastic opportunities to really make it big, just slide right through my fingers. I certainly helped a lot of other people get rich, but I made such horrible decisions when it came to my own ideas and work.
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Wow! In my second year as a CS major, Popular Electronics had a picture of the MITS Altair on the cover. When I saw that, I knew right then to change direction and not put so much emphasis into programming mainframes with punched cards. And consequently, I was much further ahead of most people waking up to the micro revolution. I was really surprised that it took the industry so long to realize the benefit of the personal/individual computer. The only reason I'm not filthy rich, is that I was a drunken horndog and an immature dork (much like most of my contemporaries). I let probably 10+ fantastic opportunities to really make it big, just slide right through my fingers. I certainly helped a lot of other people get rich, but I made such horrible decisions when it came to my own ideas and work.
Larry G. Grimes wrote:
The only reason I'm not filthy rich, is that I was a drunken horndog and an immature dork (much like most of my contemporaries). I let probably 10+ fantastic opportunities to really make it big, just slide right through my fingers. I certainly helped a lot of other people get rich, but I made such horrible decisions when it came to my own ideas and work.
Well, maybe it's a good thing, then, that you didn't get rich; it would likely have only promoted the horndoginess of your youth. :)
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Judah Himango -
Larry G. Grimes wrote:
The only reason I'm not filthy rich, is that I was a drunken horndog and an immature dork (much like most of my contemporaries). I let probably 10+ fantastic opportunities to really make it big, just slide right through my fingers. I certainly helped a lot of other people get rich, but I made such horrible decisions when it came to my own ideas and work.
Well, maybe it's a good thing, then, that you didn't get rich; it would likely have only promoted the horndoginess of your youth. :)
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Judah HimangoYou're right. I'm actually pretty lucky I didn't make it so big. One of my earlier associates was George Tate, one of the founders of Ashton-Tate of dBase fame. George died at 40, in 1983 obviously due to complications from a lifestyle of excess. The last time I talked to him in 1982, he had just returned from a vacation in the Carribean and was boasting about how little sleep he got and how fun all the partying was.
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Inspired by this SO thread, What was "the next big thing" when you guys started programming? I remember a couple things in college: -Java was big. Write once, run anywhere...people believed it. -There was some interest in, and lots of articles about, Microsoft's new version of COM+, which they named DotNet. Oh, and some interest in the Java copycat they called C#. -I distinctly remember my college textbooks claiming "natural languages" would be the future of programming. -To prepare me for the future, my college taught us Fortran and C. The closest thing I've come to utilizing either of these is the rare piece of C++ code I have to deal with on contracting gigs.
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Judah HimangoMy first programming course used punch cards for Fortran. Using terminals was big new stuff. Using a modem at 110 baud to work from home was amazing. A DECwriter going 1200 buad was just unbelievably fast. Java was coffee. Real languages were PL/C derivatives... ;P
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Inspired by this SO thread, What was "the next big thing" when you guys started programming? I remember a couple things in college: -Java was big. Write once, run anywhere...people believed it. -There was some interest in, and lots of articles about, Microsoft's new version of COM+, which they named DotNet. Oh, and some interest in the Java copycat they called C#. -I distinctly remember my college textbooks claiming "natural languages" would be the future of programming. -To prepare me for the future, my college taught us Fortran and C. The closest thing I've come to utilizing either of these is the rare piece of C++ code I have to deal with on contracting gigs.
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Judah HimangoDigital Computing - I started using analog computers, use patch wires to creates integrators, adders, etc. Digital was fantastic, but at the time still to slow to model complex real time problems.
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Inspired by this SO thread, What was "the next big thing" when you guys started programming? I remember a couple things in college: -Java was big. Write once, run anywhere...people believed it. -There was some interest in, and lots of articles about, Microsoft's new version of COM+, which they named DotNet. Oh, and some interest in the Java copycat they called C#. -I distinctly remember my college textbooks claiming "natural languages" would be the future of programming. -To prepare me for the future, my college taught us Fortran and C. The closest thing I've come to utilizing either of these is the rare piece of C++ code I have to deal with on contracting gigs.
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Judah HimangoI'm very young in here! For me, the big thing was PHP and PHP ready-made tools (portals, forums).
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Youngun :) There was CGA, then MCGA, EGA, VGA, SVGA... And you probably know the rest. I remember working with 16 colors, aptly numbered 0 to 15 (After that it looped through the first 16, but flashing).
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Inspired by this SO thread, What was "the next big thing" when you guys started programming? I remember a couple things in college: -Java was big. Write once, run anywhere...people believed it. -There was some interest in, and lots of articles about, Microsoft's new version of COM+, which they named DotNet. Oh, and some interest in the Java copycat they called C#. -I distinctly remember my college textbooks claiming "natural languages" would be the future of programming. -To prepare me for the future, my college taught us Fortran and C. The closest thing I've come to utilizing either of these is the rare piece of C++ code I have to deal with on contracting gigs.
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon
Judah HimangoMy first job was working on a machine called the GEC 2050[^]. This was an 8 bit minicomputer with up to a massive 64K of memory! The memory was magnetic core - made, if memory serves, by little old spanish ladies. The logic was TTL, and the peripherals were a hard drive, a teletype, a barrel line printer and a paper tape reader/punch. It was about the size of a refrigerator. So for me the next big things were: * Solid state memory (still only 64K though) * VDUs (those green screen CRT things with a keyboard) * VLSI (chips with more than just a few logic gates on them) * Multi-user operating systems
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Inspired by this SO thread, What was "the next big thing" when you guys started programming? I remember a couple things in college: -Java was big. Write once, run anywhere...people believed it. -There was some interest in, and lots of articles about, Microsoft's new version of COM+, which they named DotNet. Oh, and some interest in the Java copycat they called C#. -I distinctly remember my college textbooks claiming "natural languages" would be the future of programming. -To prepare me for the future, my college taught us Fortran and C. The closest thing I've come to utilizing either of these is the rare piece of C++ code I have to deal with on contracting gigs.
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Judah HimangoThere was this new computer on the horizon: The IBM PC XT. Imagine my delight when I discovered it just flew along at a mind-boggling 4.7 megahertz. And that 8-megabyte hard drive! Why, we'd never need anything bigger than that, right?
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You're right. I'm actually pretty lucky I didn't make it so big. One of my earlier associates was George Tate, one of the founders of Ashton-Tate of dBase fame. George died at 40, in 1983 obviously due to complications from a lifestyle of excess. The last time I talked to him in 1982, he had just returned from a vacation in the Carribean and was boasting about how little sleep he got and how fun all the partying was.
Yep. There's a blessing in every curse. :)
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon
Judah Himango -
Inspired by this SO thread, What was "the next big thing" when you guys started programming? I remember a couple things in college: -Java was big. Write once, run anywhere...people believed it. -There was some interest in, and lots of articles about, Microsoft's new version of COM+, which they named DotNet. Oh, and some interest in the Java copycat they called C#. -I distinctly remember my college textbooks claiming "natural languages" would be the future of programming. -To prepare me for the future, my college taught us Fortran and C. The closest thing I've come to utilizing either of these is the rare piece of C++ code I have to deal with on contracting gigs.
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon
Judah Himango -
Inspired by this SO thread, What was "the next big thing" when you guys started programming? I remember a couple things in college: -Java was big. Write once, run anywhere...people believed it. -There was some interest in, and lots of articles about, Microsoft's new version of COM+, which they named DotNet. Oh, and some interest in the Java copycat they called C#. -I distinctly remember my college textbooks claiming "natural languages" would be the future of programming. -To prepare me for the future, my college taught us Fortran and C. The closest thing I've come to utilizing either of these is the rare piece of C++ code I have to deal with on contracting gigs.
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Judah HimangoFor me it was Advanced Revelation (Arev for short) around 1990 or so. We trained night and day and on weekends for a month because the consulting company I worked for at the time was convinced it was going to supplant dBase, FoxPro and even SQL Server 6.5. None of us ever worked on a single billable project with it.
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My first programming course used punch cards for Fortran. Using terminals was big new stuff. Using a modem at 110 baud to work from home was amazing. A DECwriter going 1200 buad was just unbelievably fast. Java was coffee. Real languages were PL/C derivatives... ;P
A Decwriter was shear heaven -- a lot of people had to use the unbelievably horrible teletype.
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My first job was working on a machine called the GEC 2050[^]. This was an 8 bit minicomputer with up to a massive 64K of memory! The memory was magnetic core - made, if memory serves, by little old spanish ladies. The logic was TTL, and the peripherals were a hard drive, a teletype, a barrel line printer and a paper tape reader/punch. It was about the size of a refrigerator. So for me the next big things were: * Solid state memory (still only 64K though) * VDUs (those green screen CRT things with a keyboard) * VLSI (chips with more than just a few logic gates on them) * Multi-user operating systems
My first computer (an Imsai) had a whopping 4K! I had to wait and save another $400 so I could get another 4K and use Bill Gates 8K Basic. Try progamming where every character matters. You only use one or two character variable names and can't afford to document your source code!
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For me it was Advanced Revelation (Arev for short) around 1990 or so. We trained night and day and on weekends for a month because the consulting company I worked for at the time was convinced it was going to supplant dBase, FoxPro and even SQL Server 6.5. None of us ever worked on a single billable project with it.
In the mid to late 80's and early 90's a lot of people made a lot of money consulting with dBase and Lotus 1-2-3. Knowing Wordstar and especially WordPerfect was icing on the cake!
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My first computer (an Imsai) had a whopping 4K! I had to wait and save another $400 so I could get another 4K and use Bill Gates 8K Basic. Try progamming where every character matters. You only use one or two character variable names and can't afford to document your source code!
Eee 4k! We used to dream o' 'aving 4k! There were twenty four o' us living in shoebox in middle o' road...