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  • D dan sh

    My laptop (Vaio CR343G) is getting heated up too much from past week or so. I thought it might be because of dust inside it. So I dismantled and cleaned it up nicely. Sadly, it didn't helped much. I searched if Vista gives an option to see/change fan settings but could not find it. So I resorted to SpeedFan. For some strange reason, it is not showing anything under fans tab for I can configure it. Is there something good that anyone can recommend? All I can think of right now is to write some code to get the fan settings or to reach out to the service center. I really do not want to go to service center since it is quite far away from where I live. Thus I was hoping if something can be done at home itself. Update: Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

    modified on Monday, March 1, 2010 2:06 AM

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    Sandeep Mewara
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    Hi Danish... Lately i too faced the same with my Toshiba.:( I think there is an option related to 'cooling' that can be used. Control Panel -> Power Opions -> Change Plan Settings(available for all 3 - balanced, power saver, high performance)(Select the one you usually use, like power saver mode) -> Change Advanced Power setting -> Power save settings (mine shows 'Toshiba Power Settings V8.02.00') -> Cooling methods -> On battery AND plugged in option. You can set what condition switchover will initiate cooling. This helped me.... might help you too.

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    • D dan sh

      VectorX wrote:

      You probably voided the warranty too

      It is already over so doesn't makes difference. And I really do not understand 1. How does me opening my laptop voids the warranty? 2. How can one get to know I opened it if I haven't damaged anything? Anyways, I am quite happy with Vaio so far. It hasn't given me any trouble till now.

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      M dHatter
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      d@nish wrote:

      How can one get to know I opened it if I haven't damaged anything?

      They usually hide plastic pieces that break or stickers over things. But most laptops are built to expire right as the warranty expires.

      d@nish wrote:

      How does me opening my laptop voids the warranty?

      Because they use it as an excuse for you to buy another one, because they dont know if you broke it or if it was a piece of crap made at the factory. ;)

      "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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      • D dan sh

        VectorX wrote:

        You probably voided the warranty too

        It is already over so doesn't makes difference. And I really do not understand 1. How does me opening my laptop voids the warranty? 2. How can one get to know I opened it if I haven't damaged anything? Anyways, I am quite happy with Vaio so far. It hasn't given me any trouble till now.

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        Rajesh R Subramanian
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        As long as someone who isn't an authorised service rep opens the thing, the warranty will void (the fragile warranty sticker will be broken when you open it and they'll know it that way). But you say the warranty is already over, so it shouldn't make a difference. Vaio is good, although relatively more expensive. But I hate it for two reasons: 1. It's a Sony, so I instantly hate it. 2. Sony disabled virtualisation intentionally[^], so they could go to hell with their little machine. They said this was done for "security reasons". The irony is that these are the same jerks who silently installed rootkit with their software. :rolleyes:

        “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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          As long as someone who isn't an authorised service rep opens the thing, the warranty will void (the fragile warranty sticker will be broken when you open it and they'll know it that way). But you say the warranty is already over, so it shouldn't make a difference. Vaio is good, although relatively more expensive. But I hate it for two reasons: 1. It's a Sony, so I instantly hate it. 2. Sony disabled virtualisation intentionally[^], so they could go to hell with their little machine. They said this was done for "security reasons". The irony is that these are the same jerks who silently installed rootkit with their software. :rolleyes:

          “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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          dan sh
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          Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

          It's a Sony, so I instantly hate it.

          I can't think of any thread when we had same opinions about anything.

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          • S Sandeep Mewara

            Hi Danish... Lately i too faced the same with my Toshiba.:( I think there is an option related to 'cooling' that can be used. Control Panel -> Power Opions -> Change Plan Settings(available for all 3 - balanced, power saver, high performance)(Select the one you usually use, like power saver mode) -> Change Advanced Power setting -> Power save settings (mine shows 'Toshiba Power Settings V8.02.00') -> Cooling methods -> On battery AND plugged in option. You can set what condition switchover will initiate cooling. This helped me.... might help you too.

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            Can't find "Cooling methods" (or something similar). I think I should reach out to service center.

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            • D dan sh

              Can't find "Cooling methods" (or something similar). I think I should reach out to service center.

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              Sandeep Mewara
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              Hard luck then! might be Toshiba's feature... But you opened up your laptop youself... hope it dont create issues at service center!

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              • D dan sh

                Can't find "Cooling methods" (or something similar). I think I should reach out to service center.

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                M dHatter
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                Have you tried the bios? sometimes you can adjust fan speeds.

                "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                  Have you tried the bios? sometimes you can adjust fan speeds.

                  "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                  dan sh
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                  That is what I am going to do now. :) Will be back in few minutes (unless I do something horribly wrong).

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                  • D dan sh

                    My laptop (Vaio CR343G) is getting heated up too much from past week or so. I thought it might be because of dust inside it. So I dismantled and cleaned it up nicely. Sadly, it didn't helped much. I searched if Vista gives an option to see/change fan settings but could not find it. So I resorted to SpeedFan. For some strange reason, it is not showing anything under fans tab for I can configure it. Is there something good that anyone can recommend? All I can think of right now is to write some code to get the fan settings or to reach out to the service center. I really do not want to go to service center since it is quite far away from where I live. Thus I was hoping if something can be done at home itself. Update: Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    I had the same problem a while ago, but it's taken me a while, this morning, to remember the name of this[^]. It might help.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • D dan sh

                      My laptop (Vaio CR343G) is getting heated up too much from past week or so. I thought it might be because of dust inside it. So I dismantled and cleaned it up nicely. Sadly, it didn't helped much. I searched if Vista gives an option to see/change fan settings but could not find it. So I resorted to SpeedFan. For some strange reason, it is not showing anything under fans tab for I can configure it. Is there something good that anyone can recommend? All I can think of right now is to write some code to get the fan settings or to reach out to the service center. I really do not want to go to service center since it is quite far away from where I live. Thus I was hoping if something can be done at home itself. Update: Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      d@nish wrote:

                      Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

                      Any Linux user will tell you that Win32 fans have nothing interesting to say.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • M Mark_Wallace

                        d@nish wrote:

                        Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

                        Any Linux user will tell you that Win32 fans have nothing interesting to say.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        M dHatter
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                        Any unix fans will tell you the devils beat the ducks hands down. ;P

                        "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                        • D dan sh

                          My laptop (Vaio CR343G) is getting heated up too much from past week or so. I thought it might be because of dust inside it. So I dismantled and cleaned it up nicely. Sadly, it didn't helped much. I searched if Vista gives an option to see/change fan settings but could not find it. So I resorted to SpeedFan. For some strange reason, it is not showing anything under fans tab for I can configure it. Is there something good that anyone can recommend? All I can think of right now is to write some code to get the fan settings or to reach out to the service center. I really do not want to go to service center since it is quite far away from where I live. Thus I was hoping if something can be done at home itself. Update: Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

                          modified on Monday, March 1, 2010 2:06 AM

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                          Steve Mayfield
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                          you can try cpuid or pcwizard from cpuid.com (both free) - both display hardware monitoring data

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                          • D dan sh

                            My laptop (Vaio CR343G) is getting heated up too much from past week or so. I thought it might be because of dust inside it. So I dismantled and cleaned it up nicely. Sadly, it didn't helped much. I searched if Vista gives an option to see/change fan settings but could not find it. So I resorted to SpeedFan. For some strange reason, it is not showing anything under fans tab for I can configure it. Is there something good that anyone can recommend? All I can think of right now is to write some code to get the fan settings or to reach out to the service center. I really do not want to go to service center since it is quite far away from where I live. Thus I was hoping if something can be done at home itself. Update: Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

                            modified on Monday, March 1, 2010 2:06 AM

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                            leppie
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                            Laptops normally do not support manual fan adjustments. You can try an application like HWMonitor, or HWInfo32 to get an idea what controller chip you have, if any. Let me know, so I can get an idea. If you indeed have a super i/o chip like found in desktops, you maybe be able to adjust it (not so hard to code). Another alternative is to dig into some Linux kernel source, and see what they have to control fans, etc. This may need ACPI access, and I have no idea how to do that in code yet :( An alternative then is modifying the ACPI DSDT tables loaded by the OS.

                            xacc.ide
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                              Laptops normally do not support manual fan adjustments. You can try an application like HWMonitor, or HWInfo32 to get an idea what controller chip you have, if any. Let me know, so I can get an idea. If you indeed have a super i/o chip like found in desktops, you maybe be able to adjust it (not so hard to code). Another alternative is to dig into some Linux kernel source, and see what they have to control fans, etc. This may need ACPI access, and I have no idea how to do that in code yet :( An alternative then is modifying the ACPI DSDT tables loaded by the OS.

                              xacc.ide
                              IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                              ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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                              dan sh
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                              It has Intel GM965 chipset.

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                                Any unix fans will tell you the devils beat the ducks hands down. ;P

                                "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                                • D dan sh

                                  It has Intel GM965 chipset.

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                                  leppie
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                                  Actually, I am interested in the super i/o chip. You will see this info in the 'Sensors' page of HWInfo32.

                                  xacc.ide
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                                  ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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                                    Actually, I am interested in the super i/o chip. You will see this info in the 'Sensors' page of HWInfo32.

                                    xacc.ide
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                                    dan sh
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                                    Here[^] is what it shows to me. Thanks for the help. :)

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                                      Here[^] is what it shows to me. Thanks for the help. :)

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                                      leppie
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                                      As I expected, no Super I/O chip. :( So no easy fan control. Next mission is to decipher your system's ACPI tables. You will need to MS ASL compiler to get your system's current DSDT. Then this (the output) can be modified after you see where the fan control takes place (Linux kernel will help you here). Then you need to recompile it (the modified output), and patch it in the registry somehow (sorry I don't know how that works, but that is what I have read in the WDDK).

                                      xacc.ide
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                                        As I expected, no Super I/O chip. :( So no easy fan control. Next mission is to decipher your system's ACPI tables. You will need to MS ASL compiler to get your system's current DSDT. Then this (the output) can be modified after you see where the fan control takes place (Linux kernel will help you here). Then you need to recompile it (the modified output), and patch it in the registry somehow (sorry I don't know how that works, but that is what I have read in the WDDK).

                                        xacc.ide
                                        IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                                        ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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                                        dan sh
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                                        I guess I would go to service center. IMHO a .Net developer does not has enough weapons to combat this.

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                                          I guess I would go to service center. IMHO a .Net developer does not has enough weapons to combat this.

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                                          leppie
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                                          d@nish wrote:

                                          IMHO a .Net developer does not has enough weapons to combat this.

                                          Says who? Climb out of that cocoon! :) (it will be hard, but challenging and fun)

                                          xacc.ide
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