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  • S Sandeep Mewara

    Hi Danish... Lately i too faced the same with my Toshiba.:( I think there is an option related to 'cooling' that can be used. Control Panel -> Power Opions -> Change Plan Settings(available for all 3 - balanced, power saver, high performance)(Select the one you usually use, like power saver mode) -> Change Advanced Power setting -> Power save settings (mine shows 'Toshiba Power Settings V8.02.00') -> Cooling methods -> On battery AND plugged in option. You can set what condition switchover will initiate cooling. This helped me.... might help you too.

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    dan sh
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    Can't find "Cooling methods" (or something similar). I think I should reach out to service center.

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      Can't find "Cooling methods" (or something similar). I think I should reach out to service center.

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      Sandeep Mewara
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      Hard luck then! might be Toshiba's feature... But you opened up your laptop youself... hope it dont create issues at service center!

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        Can't find "Cooling methods" (or something similar). I think I should reach out to service center.

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        M dHatter
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        Have you tried the bios? sometimes you can adjust fan speeds.

        "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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          Have you tried the bios? sometimes you can adjust fan speeds.

          "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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          dan sh
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          That is what I am going to do now. :) Will be back in few minutes (unless I do something horribly wrong).

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          • D dan sh

            My laptop (Vaio CR343G) is getting heated up too much from past week or so. I thought it might be because of dust inside it. So I dismantled and cleaned it up nicely. Sadly, it didn't helped much. I searched if Vista gives an option to see/change fan settings but could not find it. So I resorted to SpeedFan. For some strange reason, it is not showing anything under fans tab for I can configure it. Is there something good that anyone can recommend? All I can think of right now is to write some code to get the fan settings or to reach out to the service center. I really do not want to go to service center since it is quite far away from where I live. Thus I was hoping if something can be done at home itself. Update: Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

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            Mark_Wallace
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            I had the same problem a while ago, but it's taken me a while, this morning, to remember the name of this[^]. It might help.

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            • D dan sh

              My laptop (Vaio CR343G) is getting heated up too much from past week or so. I thought it might be because of dust inside it. So I dismantled and cleaned it up nicely. Sadly, it didn't helped much. I searched if Vista gives an option to see/change fan settings but could not find it. So I resorted to SpeedFan. For some strange reason, it is not showing anything under fans tab for I can configure it. Is there something good that anyone can recommend? All I can think of right now is to write some code to get the fan settings or to reach out to the service center. I really do not want to go to service center since it is quite far away from where I live. Thus I was hoping if something can be done at home itself. Update: Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

              modified on Monday, March 1, 2010 2:06 AM

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              Mark_Wallace
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              d@nish wrote:

              Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

              Any Linux user will tell you that Win32 fans have nothing interesting to say.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                d@nish wrote:

                Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

                Any Linux user will tell you that Win32 fans have nothing interesting to say.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                M dHatter
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                Any unix fans will tell you the devils beat the ducks hands down. ;P

                "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                  My laptop (Vaio CR343G) is getting heated up too much from past week or so. I thought it might be because of dust inside it. So I dismantled and cleaned it up nicely. Sadly, it didn't helped much. I searched if Vista gives an option to see/change fan settings but could not find it. So I resorted to SpeedFan. For some strange reason, it is not showing anything under fans tab for I can configure it. Is there something good that anyone can recommend? All I can think of right now is to write some code to get the fan settings or to reach out to the service center. I really do not want to go to service center since it is quite far away from where I live. Thus I was hoping if something can be done at home itself. Update: Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

                  modified on Monday, March 1, 2010 2:06 AM

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                  Steve Mayfield
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                  you can try cpuid or pcwizard from cpuid.com (both free) - both display hardware monitoring data

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                  • D dan sh

                    My laptop (Vaio CR343G) is getting heated up too much from past week or so. I thought it might be because of dust inside it. So I dismantled and cleaned it up nicely. Sadly, it didn't helped much. I searched if Vista gives an option to see/change fan settings but could not find it. So I resorted to SpeedFan. For some strange reason, it is not showing anything under fans tab for I can configure it. Is there something good that anyone can recommend? All I can think of right now is to write some code to get the fan settings or to reach out to the service center. I really do not want to go to service center since it is quite far away from where I live. Thus I was hoping if something can be done at home itself. Update: Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

                    modified on Monday, March 1, 2010 2:06 AM

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                    Laptops normally do not support manual fan adjustments. You can try an application like HWMonitor, or HWInfo32 to get an idea what controller chip you have, if any. Let me know, so I can get an idea. If you indeed have a super i/o chip like found in desktops, you maybe be able to adjust it (not so hard to code). Another alternative is to dig into some Linux kernel source, and see what they have to control fans, etc. This may need ACPI access, and I have no idea how to do that in code yet :( An alternative then is modifying the ACPI DSDT tables loaded by the OS.

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                      Laptops normally do not support manual fan adjustments. You can try an application like HWMonitor, or HWInfo32 to get an idea what controller chip you have, if any. Let me know, so I can get an idea. If you indeed have a super i/o chip like found in desktops, you maybe be able to adjust it (not so hard to code). Another alternative is to dig into some Linux kernel source, and see what they have to control fans, etc. This may need ACPI access, and I have no idea how to do that in code yet :( An alternative then is modifying the ACPI DSDT tables loaded by the OS.

                      xacc.ide
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                      dan sh
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                      It has Intel GM965 chipset.

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                      • M M dHatter

                        Any unix fans will tell you the devils beat the ducks hands down. ;P

                        "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                        And with one tail tied behind their back. FreeBSD rocks.

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                        • D dan sh

                          It has Intel GM965 chipset.

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                          leppie
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                          Actually, I am interested in the super i/o chip. You will see this info in the 'Sensors' page of HWInfo32.

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                            Actually, I am interested in the super i/o chip. You will see this info in the 'Sensors' page of HWInfo32.

                            xacc.ide
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                            dan sh
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                            Here[^] is what it shows to me. Thanks for the help. :)

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                              Here[^] is what it shows to me. Thanks for the help. :)

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                              As I expected, no Super I/O chip. :( So no easy fan control. Next mission is to decipher your system's ACPI tables. You will need to MS ASL compiler to get your system's current DSDT. Then this (the output) can be modified after you see where the fan control takes place (Linux kernel will help you here). Then you need to recompile it (the modified output), and patch it in the registry somehow (sorry I don't know how that works, but that is what I have read in the WDDK).

                              xacc.ide
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                                As I expected, no Super I/O chip. :( So no easy fan control. Next mission is to decipher your system's ACPI tables. You will need to MS ASL compiler to get your system's current DSDT. Then this (the output) can be modified after you see where the fan control takes place (Linux kernel will help you here). Then you need to recompile it (the modified output), and patch it in the registry somehow (sorry I don't know how that works, but that is what I have read in the WDDK).

                                xacc.ide
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                                dan sh
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                                I guess I would go to service center. IMHO a .Net developer does not has enough weapons to combat this.

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                                  I guess I would go to service center. IMHO a .Net developer does not has enough weapons to combat this.

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                                  d@nish wrote:

                                  IMHO a .Net developer does not has enough weapons to combat this.

                                  Says who? Climb out of that cocoon! :) (it will be hard, but challenging and fun)

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                                  • M M dHatter

                                    d@nish wrote:

                                    How can one get to know I opened it if I haven't damaged anything?

                                    They usually hide plastic pieces that break or stickers over things. But most laptops are built to expire right as the warranty expires.

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                                    How does me opening my laptop voids the warranty?

                                    Because they use it as an excuse for you to buy another one, because they dont know if you broke it or if it was a piece of crap made at the factory. ;)

                                    "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain

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                                    VectorX wrote:

                                    But most laptops are built to expire right as the warranty expires.

                                    The problem with that conspiracy is that they've no way to know if you recognize paying $300 for an extended warranty on a $500 laptop is retarded or not when picking the fail date. :rolleyes:

                                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                    • D dan sh

                                      My laptop (Vaio CR343G) is getting heated up too much from past week or so. I thought it might be because of dust inside it. So I dismantled and cleaned it up nicely. Sadly, it didn't helped much. I searched if Vista gives an option to see/change fan settings but could not find it. So I resorted to SpeedFan. For some strange reason, it is not showing anything under fans tab for I can configure it. Is there something good that anyone can recommend? All I can think of right now is to write some code to get the fan settings or to reach out to the service center. I really do not want to go to service center since it is quite far away from where I live. Thus I was hoping if something can be done at home itself. Update: Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

                                      modified on Monday, March 1, 2010 2:06 AM

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                                      Not sure this is of any help, but I have had the heat problem too with my laptop. It comes after a few years of collecting dust inside. What I usually do is that I vaccum clean it with a good high power vaccuum cleaner, so not with a small one meant to clean your keyboard or so. I suck out the dust from the fan inlet/outlet, everywhere where it could possibly help. The computer is not on of course :) That always helps. After having done that I can wait for a few years again until I need to do it. The symptoms for this is that the fan often goes on, eventually more or less all the time, especially during certain demanding things like watching video. It even happens that the computer turns itself off in order to stop further heating (compare to fainting for humans.) Anyway, vaccuum cleaning it helps very much and I am surprised that this method is not mentioned more in manuals, etc. I have a HP, by the way. I only use HPs :) By the way, first time I had this problem I was about to try to open it, but when I saw the description for how to do that I felt very reluctant, so I thought I would just try to vaccuum clean it from outside. And it worked. Magnus

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                                        My laptop (Vaio CR343G) is getting heated up too much from past week or so. I thought it might be because of dust inside it. So I dismantled and cleaned it up nicely. Sadly, it didn't helped much. I searched if Vista gives an option to see/change fan settings but could not find it. So I resorted to SpeedFan. For some strange reason, it is not showing anything under fans tab for I can configure it. Is there something good that anyone can recommend? All I can think of right now is to write some code to get the fan settings or to reach out to the service center. I really do not want to go to service center since it is quite far away from where I live. Thus I was hoping if something can be done at home itself. Update: Querying Win32_Fan does not returns anything. Weird.

                                        modified on Monday, March 1, 2010 2:06 AM

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                                        Steve Mayfield
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                                        At work, I use an air compressor hose to blow the dust out of the vents in the case. If you have an access panel to the CPU fan, you should be able to blow on the fan and watch it spin. If it doesn't, use the compressor to clean things up. I did that for one of my co-workers machines a few years ago and it worked so well, he can use it in bed without disturbing the wife because the fan was very quiet compared to before the cleaning.

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                                          At work, I use an air compressor hose to blow the dust out of the vents in the case. If you have an access panel to the CPU fan, you should be able to blow on the fan and watch it spin. If it doesn't, use the compressor to clean things up. I did that for one of my co-workers machines a few years ago and it worked so well, he can use it in bed without disturbing the wife because the fan was very quiet compared to before the cleaning.

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                                          randomusic
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                                          Yeah, I can add that when I vaccuum clean it, I hear the fan go high speed too.

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