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  • R RichardM1

    My wife's PC started crapping out to the point where I decided to slick it, freezing on boot It kept dying during the file copy phase of XP install. I have seen this before when ram went bad. I swapped out ram, and it died same place. Then the OS hard drive (thank God) got crapped up and windows install spent 3 hours checking it. I went to the back up HD, and it is dying at the same place (file copy in install). I got a new MB, CPU and RAM, and it is still dying at the same place. I tried a different copy of XP, still dying in the same place. ------------- So, should I buy penny stocks? ------------- Sorry, wrong thread. The only thing left is Power Supply and Monitor. I am going to try it on my PC's PS, and see how it works. Does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing this? If so, please let me know. Thanks in advance RM

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    Tried disabling antivirus in the BIOS? I think that being on has caused problems for me with some versions of windows.

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    • R RichardM1

      My wife's PC started crapping out to the point where I decided to slick it, freezing on boot It kept dying during the file copy phase of XP install. I have seen this before when ram went bad. I swapped out ram, and it died same place. Then the OS hard drive (thank God) got crapped up and windows install spent 3 hours checking it. I went to the back up HD, and it is dying at the same place (file copy in install). I got a new MB, CPU and RAM, and it is still dying at the same place. I tried a different copy of XP, still dying in the same place. ------------- So, should I buy penny stocks? ------------- Sorry, wrong thread. The only thing left is Power Supply and Monitor. I am going to try it on my PC's PS, and see how it works. Does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing this? If so, please let me know. Thanks in advance RM

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      Steve Mayfield
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      power supply is a good bet...

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        Could be the video card. Do you think it was freezing on boot near where it changed from a text based screen to highres? Likewise with the xp install?

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        RichardM1
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        Both MBs have built in video. System is: MB, CPU, RAM, DVD player, HD, monitor. There is nothing there that is not required. It is dying in the file copy part of install, about 8-10% done (based on the ASCII mode progress bar being shown). It says it can not find a file on the source CD. If I tell it to skip file, it repeats for the next file, not copying any more after that point.

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          Tried disabling antivirus in the BIOS? I think that being on has caused problems for me with some versions of windows.

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          RichardM1
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          No anti virus installed yet. Nothing installed, yet.

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            power supply is a good bet...

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            RichardM1
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            Yeah, I just can't think of a mechanism that would have it die on the same file for all MB/CPU/RAM/HD/install CD variations I have tried. The DVD is not even spinning fast when it dies, and it flat stops once it stops copying, so I don't see how the PS could do it. Oh. Crap. Maybe the DVD player is hosed. That had not even occurred to me until now.

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            • R RichardM1

              My wife's PC started crapping out to the point where I decided to slick it, freezing on boot It kept dying during the file copy phase of XP install. I have seen this before when ram went bad. I swapped out ram, and it died same place. Then the OS hard drive (thank God) got crapped up and windows install spent 3 hours checking it. I went to the back up HD, and it is dying at the same place (file copy in install). I got a new MB, CPU and RAM, and it is still dying at the same place. I tried a different copy of XP, still dying in the same place. ------------- So, should I buy penny stocks? ------------- Sorry, wrong thread. The only thing left is Power Supply and Monitor. I am going to try it on my PC's PS, and see how it works. Does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing this? If so, please let me know. Thanks in advance RM

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              Jim Crafton
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              I see you thought of the DVD player, what about the disc itself? Is it possible the media is corrupted, scratched, dirty, etc?

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                I see you thought of the DVD player, what about the disc itself? Is it possible the media is corrupted, scratched, dirty, etc?

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                RichardM1
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                I tried a different XP disk, same problem, same place. When I get a chance tonight, I will try that and the PS.

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                • R RichardM1

                  Yeah, I just can't think of a mechanism that would have it die on the same file for all MB/CPU/RAM/HD/install CD variations I have tried. The DVD is not even spinning fast when it dies, and it flat stops once it stops copying, so I don't see how the PS could do it. Oh. Crap. Maybe the DVD player is hosed. That had not even occurred to me until now.

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  RichardM1 wrote:

                  Maybe the DVD player is hosed

                  That's a good bet. If the setup craps up during filecopy it's usually the cd or the player.

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                  • R RichardM1

                    My wife's PC started crapping out to the point where I decided to slick it, freezing on boot It kept dying during the file copy phase of XP install. I have seen this before when ram went bad. I swapped out ram, and it died same place. Then the OS hard drive (thank God) got crapped up and windows install spent 3 hours checking it. I went to the back up HD, and it is dying at the same place (file copy in install). I got a new MB, CPU and RAM, and it is still dying at the same place. I tried a different copy of XP, still dying in the same place. ------------- So, should I buy penny stocks? ------------- Sorry, wrong thread. The only thing left is Power Supply and Monitor. I am going to try it on my PC's PS, and see how it works. Does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing this? If so, please let me know. Thanks in advance RM

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                    Personally, I would check the cables. But it sounds more like a dead drive. Recover what you can, and live with it (or RMA if viable).

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                    • R RichardM1

                      Both MBs have built in video. System is: MB, CPU, RAM, DVD player, HD, monitor. There is nothing there that is not required. It is dying in the file copy part of install, about 8-10% done (based on the ASCII mode progress bar being shown). It says it can not find a file on the source CD. If I tell it to skip file, it repeats for the next file, not copying any more after that point.

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                      RichardM1 wrote:

                      It is dying in the file copy part of install, about 8-10% done (based on the ASCII mode progress bar being shown). It says it can not find a file on the source CD. If I tell it to skip file, it repeats for the next file, not copying any more after that point.

                      Well if it says it can't find a file thats where the problem lies... Perhaps it's a damaged install CD? Faulty DVD drive?

                      I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant.

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                      • R RichardM1

                        No anti virus installed yet. Nothing installed, yet.

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                        LloydA111
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                        No he means the Anti virus in the BIOS, some of them protect the Master Boot Record etc.

                        I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant.

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                        • R RichardM1

                          Yeah, I just can't think of a mechanism that would have it die on the same file for all MB/CPU/RAM/HD/install CD variations I have tried. The DVD is not even spinning fast when it dies, and it flat stops once it stops copying, so I don't see how the PS could do it. Oh. Crap. Maybe the DVD player is hosed. That had not even occurred to me until now.

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                          LloydA111
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                          RichardM1 wrote:

                          Oh. Crap. Maybe the DVD player is hosed. That had not even occurred to me until now.

                          You may have just bought a new Motherboard when the old one was working ;P

                          I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant.

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                            RichardM1 wrote:

                            Oh. Crap. Maybe the DVD player is hosed. That had not even occurred to me until now.

                            You may have just bought a new Motherboard when the old one was working ;P

                            I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant.

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                            RichardM1
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                            Lloyd Atkinson☺ wrote:

                            You may have just bought a new Motherboard when the old one was working

                            That just means I need to get a new small case/PS & small HD and I have a skype server for my wife. There is no such thing as too many computers. :)

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                              RichardM1 wrote:

                              It is dying in the file copy part of install, about 8-10% done (based on the ASCII mode progress bar being shown). It says it can not find a file on the source CD. If I tell it to skip file, it repeats for the next file, not copying any more after that point.

                              Well if it says it can't find a file thats where the problem lies... Perhaps it's a damaged install CD? Faulty DVD drive?

                              I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant.

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                              RichardM1
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                              Yeah, I'm thinking PS or DVD drive. I'll try both tonight.

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                                No he means the Anti virus in the BIOS, some of them protect the Master Boot Record etc.

                                I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant.

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                                RichardM1
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                                I'm thinking PS or (more likely) dvd drive. The file it failed on was cinem(something).dll. Didn't look like a boot file, from the name.

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                                • R RichardM1

                                  Both MBs have built in video. System is: MB, CPU, RAM, DVD player, HD, monitor. There is nothing there that is not required. It is dying in the file copy part of install, about 8-10% done (based on the ASCII mode progress bar being shown). It says it can not find a file on the source CD. If I tell it to skip file, it repeats for the next file, not copying any more after that point.

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                                  I came across something similar recently, xxxx.sys file is missing and the install stops. Turned out I had the wrong copy of the XP setup CD (different serial code)- so the only option was to reformat and install from scratch. I probably missed it but are trying to repair the os installation ? In my case the Novell Network client had corrupted, eventually forcing me to semi-manually re-install TCP networking services (couldn't find the original setup CD and the CD writer - for backup - was not working) Got it connected, backed up user data to the desktop, and did a complete re-install.

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                                  • R RichardM1

                                    Yeah, I just can't think of a mechanism that would have it die on the same file for all MB/CPU/RAM/HD/install CD variations I have tried. The DVD is not even spinning fast when it dies, and it flat stops once it stops copying, so I don't see how the PS could do it. Oh. Crap. Maybe the DVD player is hosed. That had not even occurred to me until now.

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                                    Steve Mayfield
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                                    I have seen drives that have a messed up stepper motor that works just fine until you get to the bad part of the stepper and then it just stays there...I don't know if it is still true but I recall that some older drives used an optical mechanism for stepping and if there were problems with the marks on the glass it would get very confused.

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                                      My wife's PC started crapping out to the point where I decided to slick it, freezing on boot It kept dying during the file copy phase of XP install. I have seen this before when ram went bad. I swapped out ram, and it died same place. Then the OS hard drive (thank God) got crapped up and windows install spent 3 hours checking it. I went to the back up HD, and it is dying at the same place (file copy in install). I got a new MB, CPU and RAM, and it is still dying at the same place. I tried a different copy of XP, still dying in the same place. ------------- So, should I buy penny stocks? ------------- Sorry, wrong thread. The only thing left is Power Supply and Monitor. I am going to try it on my PC's PS, and see how it works. Does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing this? If so, please let me know. Thanks in advance RM

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                                      Us older fogies remember the days when almost all "unexpected" problems were caused by either the video card or the sound card. You can't run the machine without the video card, but you can probably pop out the sound card and try the install without it -- it could well be the first "Windows sound" played that's slamming you against the wall.

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                                      • R RichardM1

                                        My wife's PC started crapping out to the point where I decided to slick it, freezing on boot It kept dying during the file copy phase of XP install. I have seen this before when ram went bad. I swapped out ram, and it died same place. Then the OS hard drive (thank God) got crapped up and windows install spent 3 hours checking it. I went to the back up HD, and it is dying at the same place (file copy in install). I got a new MB, CPU and RAM, and it is still dying at the same place. I tried a different copy of XP, still dying in the same place. ------------- So, should I buy penny stocks? ------------- Sorry, wrong thread. The only thing left is Power Supply and Monitor. I am going to try it on my PC's PS, and see how it works. Does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing this? If so, please let me know. Thanks in advance RM

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                                        Snowman58
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                                        I have seen this several times - the installer loses the connection to the cd/dvd for no apparent reason. My solution has been to boot a live CD OS, Format the target System HD, copy the MS installation files to a subdirectory, and install from there. Hope it helps.

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                                          I have seen this several times - the installer loses the connection to the cd/dvd for no apparent reason. My solution has been to boot a live CD OS, Format the target System HD, copy the MS installation files to a subdirectory, and install from there. Hope it helps.

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                                          That is a good idea. Thanks

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