The ‘Climate Change Debate’ Is Science Versus Snake Oil
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The ‘Climate Change Debate’ Is Science Versus Snake Oil[^] So, what do you guys think? fact or fraud?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php[^]
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Truth has never been determined by popularity. Darwin wasnt popular and yet adaptation of species has been seen to occur since he proposed the theory. Anyway. Two facts that disprove that GH gas warming is occuring today. 1) South pole is cooling and has been for 50 years. 2) The troposphere is not as warm as it should. Its plain simple empiracle science.
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fat_boy wrote:
Its plain simple empiracle science.
Not for you, it isn't. http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php[^]
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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There is absolutely no proof of man made global warming.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^] "/I habe an educatiomn a title and a meddal" - Dalek Dave, March 4, 2010 "...I am not that good" - Dalek Dave, March 4, 2010
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Perhaps you werent serious when you wrote "Only a Eugenicist would deny GW. You want us to believe there is no problem so that when it's too late millions of people will be wiped out. You're just a puppet for the power hungry Eugenicist politicians who are mad with power." If you were then you really are an idiot. AGW is Mann made. He made it up when he invented the hockey stick that he now knows to be unreliable. There is SO much data showing AGW isnt happening, And yet you still belileve it. You must be intensely stupid not to be abloe to recognise basic facts and understand basic scientific pribciples.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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There is absolutely no proof of man made global warming.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^] "/I habe an educatiomn a title and a meddal" - Dalek Dave, March 4, 2010 "...I am not that good" - Dalek Dave, March 4, 2010
None that is comprehensible to you, apparently.
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There is absolutely no proof of man made global warming.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^] "/I habe an educatiomn a title and a meddal" - Dalek Dave, March 4, 2010 "...I am not that good" - Dalek Dave, March 4, 2010
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fat_boy wrote:
Wellm you got them anyway. Now are you going to check out what I wrote and cone to the same conclusion as me?
You have made two unsupported statements. You prove 'em, I don't have to. I am AGW neutral as far as the science is concerned. I am anti any policies being implemented on the basis of current knowledge. I strongly resent the politicisation of this subject.
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
Bob Emmett wrote:
You have made two unsupported statements. You prove 'em, I don't have to.
No I dont. Either you are aware of what I have stated or you arent. In which case you dont know very much about AGW. I suggest therefore that you do look into the subject before continuing any discussion of it.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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fat_boy wrote:
AGW is Mann made.
Twaddle. Anthropogenic warming was the predominant subject in climate science papers in the 1970s (none of them by Mann), long before the Hockey Stick.
fat_boy wrote:
There is SO much data showing AGW isnt happening
There is so much data showing that AGW may be happening. There is so much data showing that AGW may not be happening. There is so much more for climate scientists to understand before policy can be based on their pronouncements. In the mean time, let's just concentrate on reducing our dependence on finite sources of energy.
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
Bull. Prior to Mann it was a theory. Manns graph became the headline banner for the AGW.
Bob Emmett wrote:
In the mean time, let's just concentrate on reducing our dependence on finite sources of energy.
Completely different topic.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Bob Emmett wrote:
You have made two unsupported statements. You prove 'em, I don't have to.
No I dont. Either you are aware of what I have stated or you arent. In which case you dont know very much about AGW. I suggest therefore that you do look into the subject before continuing any discussion of it.
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fat_boy wrote:
No I dont.
OK
fat_boy wrote:
Either you are aware of what I have stated or you arent.
I am. But I have yet to see incontrovertible evidence of it disproving AGW.
fat_boy wrote:
In which case you dont know very much about AGW.
I know enough to know how much more there is to know.
fat_boy wrote:
I suggest therefore that you do look into the subject before continuing any discussion of it.
I am not discussing it, the subject has become too politicized for rational discussion on forums. I merely responded to CSS, stating that none of his posts actually disproved AGW. You decided to add your three ha'pence worth.
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
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Bull. Prior to Mann it was a theory. Manns graph became the headline banner for the AGW.
Bob Emmett wrote:
In the mean time, let's just concentrate on reducing our dependence on finite sources of energy.
Completely different topic.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Prior to Mann it was a theory.
I prefer hypothesis, which it remains. Theory implies a body of testing which has failed to disprove the hypothesis.
fat_boy wrote:
Mann's graph became the headline banner for the AGW.
Yes, he is a self-publicizing, politically oriented, power hungry, grant gobbling, little git.
fat_boy wrote:
Completely different topic.
Possibly, and yet, moving away from our dependence on fossil fuels will reduce the amount of anthropogenic greenhouse gasses. Mann will have to find another gravy train.
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
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fat_boy wrote:
- South pole is cooling and has been for 50 years.
Once again, you are stuck in the past and show your ignorance. Antarctic melting due to global warming; sea levels may rise[^] and Study Finds New Evidence of Warming in Antarctica[^] And in case you didn't want an editorial Coastal-Change and Glaciological Map of the Palmer Land Area, Antarctica: 1947—2009[^]
The effect of seafloor heating opn one tiny part of a peninsula of antarctic is NOT the entire continent. And if you mean the paper puiblished by a group of scientists of which Mann is one then dont make me laugh. They used the same techniques to make up data for large areas of the continent where there arent any weather stations. Which is a joke.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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The effect of seafloor heating opn one tiny part of a peninsula of antarctic is NOT the entire continent. And if you mean the paper puiblished by a group of scientists of which Mann is one then dont make me laugh. They used the same techniques to make up data for large areas of the continent where there arent any weather stations. Which is a joke.
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And once again, you show you're not actually open to reasonable debate and just ignore anything that anyone says if it leans towards GW in any way. None of those links had Mann's name on it...but then you would have seen that if you actually did what you expect others to do...which is read something that someone posts on one of these sites.
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And once again, you show you're not actually open to reasonable debate and just ignore anything that anyone says if it leans towards GW in any way. None of those links had Mann's name on it...but then you would have seen that if you actually did what you expect others to do...which is read something that someone posts on one of these sites.
No,. I didnt lok at them, I didnt have time. However, ahything you, or anyone else writers, will not destroy 60 years of thermometer temperature data that shows cooling. I know you and many others would like to, since it displays quite clearly that GH gas warmign si not taking place, but you cant. And no amount of crooked science, like using wind asa proxy for temp in the troposphere, will do so.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription