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  • C Christian Graus

    You're probably right, but he's a maggot, and a rise is what he wants. It's not like there's a single person on this forum who would take anything he says seriously. I doubt he even believes it, amongst the things that are deliberate attempts to twist what I've said, are things that don't bear any relation to anything I've ever said. I don't see why I should care what a mentally ill person has to say about me, it reflects badly on him, not me.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    Tim Craig
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    and a rise is what he wants.

    Yet you're nearly always the first person in line to stroke him to keep going. :doh:

    You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      and a rise is what he wants.

      Yet you're nearly always the first person in line to stroke him to keep going. :doh:

      You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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      Hey, everybody needs a hobby. :-D

      L u n a t i c F r i n g e

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        Hey, everybody needs a hobby. :-D

        L u n a t i c F r i n g e

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        Christian Graus
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        Exactly what I tell my wife all the time.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it. He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport because he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing. Let's not mention his desire for depopulation, mandatory abortions, sterilizations, and abductions. Lord knows what goes on in his frequent visits to hotel rooms around the world. I'm sure he has purchased a few African sex slaves smuggled in by the UN. He claims to be a Christian but so do those Priest that love young boys.

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          I'm pretty sure that your statement is tantamount to libel - you've gone beyond free speech or a personal attack and moved directly to an unsubstantiated accusation on a highly visible, public web site. I'd be surprised if CG does anything about it (you're simply not worth the effort) but I'm also sure he could if he was ever so inclined.

          Tychotics "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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            I'm pretty sure that your statement is tantamount to libel - you've gone beyond free speech or a personal attack and moved directly to an unsubstantiated accusation on a highly visible, public web site. I'd be surprised if CG does anything about it (you're simply not worth the effort) but I'm also sure he could if he was ever so inclined.

            Tychotics "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

            modified on Friday, March 12, 2010 4:25 AM

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            Christian Graus
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            Yes, it's plain that I could sue him for slander, my problem is that I'd have to prove in court that he's someone who anyone would take seriously ( his being a joke to everyone here undermines the claim of slander ). It may be worth it to force him to take a pysch evaluation, which I'd presume would be part of his defence. I can plainly afford the lawyer, this is actually sounding tempting. To sit in court and hear the defence lawyer go over the proof that his client is mentally ill would be better than winning.....

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              I'm pretty sure that your statement is tantamount to libel - you've gone beyond free speech or a personal attack and moved directly to an unsubstantiated accusation on a highly visible, public web site. I'd be surprised if CG does anything about it (you're simply not worth the effort) but I'm also sure he could if he was ever so inclined.

              Tychotics "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

              modified on Friday, March 12, 2010 4:25 AM

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              digital man wrote:

              tantamount to slander

              No, not slander, libel.

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                digital man wrote:

                tantamount to slander

                No, not slander, libel.

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                Doh! You are, of course, correct. I'll fix that now: thanks.

                Tychotics "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                • C Christian Graus

                  Yes, it's plain that I could sue him for slander, my problem is that I'd have to prove in court that he's someone who anyone would take seriously ( his being a joke to everyone here undermines the claim of slander ). It may be worth it to force him to take a pysch evaluation, which I'd presume would be part of his defence. I can plainly afford the lawyer, this is actually sounding tempting. To sit in court and hear the defence lawyer go over the proof that his client is mentally ill would be better than winning.....

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  I suppose you're between laughing at his childish behaviour and anger that anyone would hurl such an offensive barb. Perhaps it would be best if he were to be frozen out - that means not even you should respond to him - that may be the only way he'll learn to play nice.

                  Tychotics "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    I suppose you're between laughing at his childish behaviour and anger that anyone would hurl such an offensive barb. Perhaps it would be best if he were to be frozen out - that means not even you should respond to him - that may be the only way he'll learn to play nice.

                    Tychotics "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                    Asking CSS to play nice is akin to asking Stalin to permit free speech. It isn't going to happen. Either CG ignores him or CG puts his moderator hat on and eliminates his offensive postings - yes, all of them that give the hint of offense (even those where the is the slightest of hints).

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      Doh! You are, of course, correct. I'll fix that now: thanks.

                      Tychotics "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                      soap brain
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                      digital man wrote:

                      You are, of course, correct.

                      Thanks! ;P As Ilíon would say: "You can verify [it] to be true by the fact that I have said [it]." (Source[^])

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Wow - a day, at most, and you're back here. What happened to the truth room ? You have two basic issues. One is that you're in a room full of adults, capable of discussing nuanced, intelligent things, and doing so intelligently. No, you have three issues. Apart from being incapable of intelligent thought, you also are a huge fan of conspiracy websites that take a smidge of facts, cover it in hyperbole and hysteria, and then feed it to you, and you swallow it verbatim. Your last issue is that you obsess over me so completely that while you cannot understand a single thing I say to you, you still manage to catalogue and store the weird fantasies that you come up with in your attempts to comprehend what the grown ups are saying. You are a sad and strange little boy. The thing that I find funny, is that you don't see to understand that the only reason people talk to you here, is that they find it so amusing, in a tragic sort of way. I've at least tried to encourage you to get the help that you so plainly and desperately need.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        What happened to the truth room ?

                        The Truthbox Professional Group wrote:

                        Account Type: Social Group (1 members)

                        He got lonely - it looks like no one want's to play with him... :((

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          Wow - a day, at most, and you're back here. What happened to the truth room ? You have two basic issues. One is that you're in a room full of adults, capable of discussing nuanced, intelligent things, and doing so intelligently. No, you have three issues. Apart from being incapable of intelligent thought, you also are a huge fan of conspiracy websites that take a smidge of facts, cover it in hyperbole and hysteria, and then feed it to you, and you swallow it verbatim. Your last issue is that you obsess over me so completely that while you cannot understand a single thing I say to you, you still manage to catalogue and store the weird fantasies that you come up with in your attempts to comprehend what the grown ups are saying. You are a sad and strange little boy. The thing that I find funny, is that you don't see to understand that the only reason people talk to you here, is that they find it so amusing, in a tragic sort of way. I've at least tried to encourage you to get the help that you so plainly and desperately need.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          What happened to the truth room

                          Evactuated due to too mch hot air and methane.

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                          • C CaptainSeeSharp

                            CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it. He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport because he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing. Let's not mention his desire for depopulation, mandatory abortions, sterilizations, and abductions. Lord knows what goes on in his frequent visits to hotel rooms around the world. I'm sure he has purchased a few African sex slaves smuggled in by the UN. He claims to be a Christian but so do those Priest that love young boys.

                            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                            Gonzoox
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                            wahahahahaha, ok, I tried to stay out of the CSS/CG affair, but with this, well, made my day, calling someone a pedo because he doesn't agrees with your thoughts. Infinite land, pfft, infinite gold, pffft, yes, I have read all your posts now and you have nothing to sustain a good argument with anyone, you base them with incomplete data, this is the size of the available land 510,072,000 sq/km, where's your infinite land?, infinite means that the number I gave wouldn't even exist, so your theories are just plain stupid. :rolleyes: Calling someone a pedo is a very serious thing, so I hope you have real evidence that you can sustain in a court, otherwise, I really hope you end up in jail or paying a large amount of money after Christian sues you Any sympathy I could have for you, telling myself how bad and ugly these guys are is gone, now I just think the same, you're just a kid, that needs professional help and you should get it, seriously

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                              Your father should have shot his load down your mothers leg. You are a waste of skin. I wish to meet you face to face, I will remove your neck from beneath your head.

                              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                              jeron1
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                              Michael Martin wrote:

                              Your father should have shot his load down your mothers leg.

                              I'm not sure chimps have the wherewithal to do this.

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                              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it. He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport because he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing. Let's not mention his desire for depopulation, mandatory abortions, sterilizations, and abductions. Lord knows what goes on in his frequent visits to hotel rooms around the world. I'm sure he has purchased a few African sex slaves smuggled in by the UN. He claims to be a Christian but so do those Priest that love young boys.

                                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                                jeron1
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                                Admit it, you've got a crush on him.

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                                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                  CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it. He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport because he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing. Let's not mention his desire for depopulation, mandatory abortions, sterilizations, and abductions. Lord knows what goes on in his frequent visits to hotel rooms around the world. I'm sure he has purchased a few African sex slaves smuggled in by the UN. He claims to be a Christian but so do those Priest that love young boys.

                                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                                  Ian Shlasko
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                                  I didn't think your perceived IQ could get any lower, but it looks like all of that Alex Jones propaganda was propping it up...

                                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                  Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                                    I'm pretty sure that your statement is tantamount to libel - you've gone beyond free speech or a personal attack and moved directly to an unsubstantiated accusation on a highly visible, public web site. I'd be surprised if CG does anything about it (you're simply not worth the effort) but I'm also sure he could if he was ever so inclined.

                                    Tychotics "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

                                    modified on Friday, March 12, 2010 4:25 AM

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                                    Distind
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                                    As someone who has to visit the topic fairly regularly, Christian could probably run him up the pole for this one. And I'm typically on the other end of it. Repeating what someone has said and providing context to what was being discussed and where, so people can point and laugh at people who say really stupid shit, perfectly legal. Misquoting them and claiming they're engaged in illegal activities based on little more than your own delusion, not so much.

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                                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                      CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it. He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport because he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing. Let's not mention his desire for depopulation, mandatory abortions, sterilizations, and abductions. Lord knows what goes on in his frequent visits to hotel rooms around the world. I'm sure he has purchased a few African sex slaves smuggled in by the UN. He claims to be a Christian but so do those Priest that love young boys.

                                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it.

                                      Not really, you've extrapolated this using false assumptions due to your own (remarkable) bias.

                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport

                                      No, he said he'd run her through the scanners they actually have, which are no where near what you think they are. As someone with roughly 1/10th of a clue how imaging works I can tell you everything you were claiming to be possible is complete bullshit. My 1/10th is the basic physics, and you fail those pretty hard.

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                                      he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing.

                                      This was again your delusion, as we and basic physics have disproved.

                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      Let's not mention his desire for depopulation, mandatory abortions, sterilizations, and abductions.

                                      Actually he seems to support the availability and education of how to use birth control. He also acknowledges that should we continue an unsustainable pattern of growth, we're all going to suffer pretty badly(off memory here).

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                                      Lord knows what goes on in his frequent visits to hotel rooms around the world. I'm sure he has purchased a few African sex slaves smuggled in by the UN.

                                      Flat libel, you have no more evidence for than I do for an ancient race of moon men. For either him, or the UN.

                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      He claims to be a Christian but so do those Priest that love young boys.

                                      Hey, Jesus loves everyone. Tell me that doesn't weird you out a bit if you have such a perverted mind.

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                                        wahahahahaha, ok, I tried to stay out of the CSS/CG affair, but with this, well, made my day, calling someone a pedo because he doesn't agrees with your thoughts. Infinite land, pfft, infinite gold, pffft, yes, I have read all your posts now and you have nothing to sustain a good argument with anyone, you base them with incomplete data, this is the size of the available land 510,072,000 sq/km, where's your infinite land?, infinite means that the number I gave wouldn't even exist, so your theories are just plain stupid. :rolleyes: Calling someone a pedo is a very serious thing, so I hope you have real evidence that you can sustain in a court, otherwise, I really hope you end up in jail or paying a large amount of money after Christian sues you Any sympathy I could have for you, telling myself how bad and ugly these guys are is gone, now I just think the same, you're just a kid, that needs professional help and you should get it, seriously

                                        I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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                                        Gonzoox wrote:

                                        Infinite land, pfft, infinite gold, pffft

                                        That is CG putting words in my mouth, I've never said that there is infinite land or gold. I said there is enough to sustain us, so we don't need to be forcibly depopulated by an all powerful global government, and use their fiat crud that gives them control over our economy. He is a pedophile for the reasons I stated in the original post.

                                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                                          Gonzoox wrote:

                                          Infinite land, pfft, infinite gold, pffft

                                          That is CG putting words in my mouth, I've never said that there is infinite land or gold. I said there is enough to sustain us, so we don't need to be forcibly depopulated by an all powerful global government, and use their fiat crud that gives them control over our economy. He is a pedophile for the reasons I stated in the original post.

                                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                                          Shame on CG for putting the words in your mouth, but let me tell you one thing, the world gold is not the US gold, it belongs to their nations, so there's not enough gold to sustain the US as you state, the US = 9,158,960 sq/km (3,536,294 sq/mi), that's the US, no more, no less, 315,534,716 is the population estimate for 2010, so that makes it 34.45 persons/sq km. So let me understand, you're saying we can overpopulate the country, forget about crops, mountains, rivers, etc... thinking like you think, yes, it's ok, but then, many questions come to my head - What are we going to eat if we don't have land to grow food?, no land for farms means no corn, no wheat, etc, no having the grains, how are we going to feed the cattle? with air? - The pollution levels today are sky high, how are they going to be in 2015? 2020? 2025? are we going to be able to drink clean water at all? or are we going to be depending on filters and chemicals to clean it? - How many more is ok for you to say that we can sustain a decent life before starting to kill each other for resources? we are already doing it for oil. Your theory reminds me of the movie "Soylent Green" go and watch it, try to learn something from there "all powerful global government, and use their fiat crud that gives them control over our economy", have you realized and thought about this at all? or you just repeat a catchy phrase that you read before? do you know what's going to happen if tomorrow, all the companies doing business in the US decide to leave?, forget about how much money they're making or how great the US market is, they just decide to leave, "our economy" as you call it will be gone, China, Germany, the UK, *put name of countries here* control this economy, they create thousands or millions of jobs, pay billions in taxes, I don't remember where I read that foreign companies represent around the 65% of the economy, but I will look for this fact and give it to you, in the meantime you can read about the US economy in Wikipedia, here's the link US Economy the illegal mexicans or latins, knowing how much they're hated, they move this economy too, they do jobs no one else wants to do and they get paid less than what many make for doing less of what they're doing or the same job, they're so important to this economy that now you can find almost everywhere spanish translations, newspapers in spanish, TV channels in spanish, food labels with both languages, gov't forms, etc... do

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