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  • S Steve Mayfield

    Detroit city employees told not to wear perfume, cologne, aftershave due to a settlement in a federal lawsuit filed in 2008 by a city employee who said a colleague's perfume made it challenging for her to do her job. [^] :Don't Breath:

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    Jim Crafton
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    ??!! WTF!? How on earth did this not just get dismissed right off the bat?

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    • S Steve Mayfield

      Detroit city employees told not to wear perfume, cologne, aftershave due to a settlement in a federal lawsuit filed in 2008 by a city employee who said a colleague's perfume made it challenging for her to do her job. [^] :Don't Breath:

      Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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      My wife used to work for a small company, and one of the customers (male) wore so much aftershave that it would set off her asthma. Eventually, the boss had to politely ask him to cut down, and explain why. She got a "thank you" card a few days later from the customers wife!

      You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy

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      • D Dalek Dave

        Humans have been wearing perfumes for thousands of years. I would therefore sue the City for denying me my cultural inheritance. :)

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        Steve Mayfield
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        I'd yell "hypocrite" the day she walks in smelling like roses :laugh:

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        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

          Some of the perfume that women wear makes me sick. The sheer amount of it closes my airways and makes me gasp for air and that is in an office. I fell off a treadmill in the gym once because I was literally choking to death from a woman's fragrance applied liberally enough so the whole county could smell just how good she smelled. I appreciate a nice fragrance but there is a limit. If someone can smell you further than a foot away that is too much!

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          What gets me is how people can not notice that they carry a "certain fragrance" with them - when they walk past in the supermarket and you can tell they smoke dope, surely they must realize!

          You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            My wife used to work for a small company, and one of the customers (male) wore so much aftershave that it would set off her asthma. Eventually, the boss had to politely ask him to cut down, and explain why. She got a "thank you" card a few days later from the customers wife!

            You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy

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            :cool::thumbsup:

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            • S Steve Mayfield

              Detroit city employees told not to wear perfume, cologne, aftershave due to a settlement in a federal lawsuit filed in 2008 by a city employee who said a colleague's perfume made it challenging for her to do her job. [^] :Don't Breath:

              Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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              SalarSoft
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              Ask your boss to put a shower in office ;P

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              • S Steve Mayfield

                Detroit city employees told not to wear perfume, cologne, aftershave due to a settlement in a federal lawsuit filed in 2008 by a city employee who said a colleague's perfume made it challenging for her to do her job. [^] :Don't Breath:

                Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                What's bizarre about this is that it took a federal lawsuit to make the point. If I sat at my desk and played rock & roll at full, blaring volume (i.e., the appropriate levels for any good rock), everyone in the office would complain and it would be insisted upon, with great vigor, that I turn down the music or pursue employment opportunities elsewhere. It's offensive and distracting behavior. If someone comes in to work smelling like he rolled around in the sewer, folks will also find that offensive and distracting. In a civilized society, subjecting others to your reeking stench is socially unacceptable, and few people would find this unusual. That said, a precedent clearly exists. Consideration of those you work with extends to the odors you emit. Regardless of whether it's body odor from poor personal hygiene, what you smoked for lunch or something you personally want to smell, it doesn't excuse you from consideration of others. Frankly, there have been times that I just wanted to stop the elevator and throw someone down the shaft. Perfume and cologne are not acceptable substitutes for bathing.

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                • S Steve Mayfield

                  Detroit city employees told not to wear perfume, cologne, aftershave due to a settlement in a federal lawsuit filed in 2008 by a city employee who said a colleague's perfume made it challenging for her to do her job. [^] :Don't Breath:

                  Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                  Perfume is meant to create an atmosphere not replace the existing one!

                  Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    What's bizarre about this is that it took a federal lawsuit to make the point. If I sat at my desk and played rock & roll at full, blaring volume (i.e., the appropriate levels for any good rock), everyone in the office would complain and it would be insisted upon, with great vigor, that I turn down the music or pursue employment opportunities elsewhere. It's offensive and distracting behavior. If someone comes in to work smelling like he rolled around in the sewer, folks will also find that offensive and distracting. In a civilized society, subjecting others to your reeking stench is socially unacceptable, and few people would find this unusual. That said, a precedent clearly exists. Consideration of those you work with extends to the odors you emit. Regardless of whether it's body odor from poor personal hygiene, what you smoked for lunch or something you personally want to smell, it doesn't excuse you from consideration of others. Frankly, there have been times that I just wanted to stop the elevator and throw someone down the shaft. Perfume and cologne are not acceptable substitutes for bathing.

                    Christopher Duncan
                    www.PracticalUSA.com
                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                    Frankly, there have been times that I just wanted to stop the elevator and throw someone down the shaft.

                    Good to see those anger management classes are paying off ... now, give into your hatred and your training will be complete. :rolleyes:


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                    • S Steve Mayfield

                      Detroit city employees told not to wear perfume, cologne, aftershave due to a settlement in a federal lawsuit filed in 2008 by a city employee who said a colleague's perfume made it challenging for her to do her job. [^] :Don't Breath:

                      Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                      martin_hughes
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                      I think I'd take the overpowering stench of perfume over the malodorous stench of noxious bum gas any day of the week.

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                      • D Douglas Troy

                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                        Frankly, there have been times that I just wanted to stop the elevator and throw someone down the shaft.

                        Good to see those anger management classes are paying off ... now, give into your hatred and your training will be complete. :rolleyes:


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                        Back when I was working for AT&T, I was in the King & Queen building (you Atlanta folks will know what I mean), which was Yuppie Central. I had hair down to my shoulders, an earring and wore a black leather biker jacket. You shoulda seen them shuffle towards the walls when they got on the elevator with me. Once, when a person was looking particularly nervous, I just couldn't help myself. Ignoring the briefcase I was carrying, I looked at her and politely said, "Yes, in fact, I am a mugger. However, I get Thursdays off." Right on cue, the bell dinged, the door opened, and she just sat there twitching as I walked out the doors. Or, as they used to say on The Coyote Channel, :baaaa!: - It's what's for dinner. :)

                        Christopher Duncan
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                          Back when I was working for AT&T, I was in the King & Queen building (you Atlanta folks will know what I mean), which was Yuppie Central. I had hair down to my shoulders, an earring and wore a black leather biker jacket. You shoulda seen them shuffle towards the walls when they got on the elevator with me. Once, when a person was looking particularly nervous, I just couldn't help myself. Ignoring the briefcase I was carrying, I looked at her and politely said, "Yes, in fact, I am a mugger. However, I get Thursdays off." Right on cue, the bell dinged, the door opened, and she just sat there twitching as I walked out the doors. Or, as they used to say on The Coyote Channel, :baaaa!: - It's what's for dinner. :)

                          Christopher Duncan
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                          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                          LOL! :laugh:


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                            ??!! WTF!? How on earth did this not just get dismissed right off the bat?

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                            Probably because it was a completely reasonable request. This story didn't give details on the lawsuit, but I seriously doubt the plaintiff just found perfume annoying. It's common for perfumes to cause migraines or difficulty breathing. If the person with the allergy also has asthma perfume can be a serious health threat. Given that we're not talking about a perfume department or the like, it's perfectly reasonable to expect the workplace to remove the offending substance. The only thing that is ridiculous is that it actually took a court to do what a supervisor should have done.

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                              Back when I was working for AT&T, I was in the King & Queen building (you Atlanta folks will know what I mean), which was Yuppie Central. I had hair down to my shoulders, an earring and wore a black leather biker jacket. You shoulda seen them shuffle towards the walls when they got on the elevator with me. Once, when a person was looking particularly nervous, I just couldn't help myself. Ignoring the briefcase I was carrying, I looked at her and politely said, "Yes, in fact, I am a mugger. However, I get Thursdays off." Right on cue, the bell dinged, the door opened, and she just sat there twitching as I walked out the doors. Or, as they used to say on The Coyote Channel, :baaaa!: - It's what's for dinner. :)

                              Christopher Duncan
                              www.PracticalUSA.com
                              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                              and now she's your wife! Girls always go for the bad boys :laugh:

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                                Probably because it was a completely reasonable request. This story didn't give details on the lawsuit, but I seriously doubt the plaintiff just found perfume annoying. It's common for perfumes to cause migraines or difficulty breathing. If the person with the allergy also has asthma perfume can be a serious health threat. Given that we're not talking about a perfume department or the like, it's perfectly reasonable to expect the workplace to remove the offending substance. The only thing that is ridiculous is that it actually took a court to do what a supervisor should have done.

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                                James L. Thomson wrote:

                                The only thing that is ridiculous is that it actually took a court to do what a supervisor should have done.

                                That's kind of what I mean - I should have been more clear. I don't see why this had to go to court at all when it easily could have been handled "in house".

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  What gets me is how people can not notice that they carry a "certain fragrance" with them - when they walk past in the supermarket and you can tell they smoke dope, surely they must realize!

                                  You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy

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                                  They would, if they weren't so hazy ....

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    What gets me is how people can not notice that they carry a "certain fragrance" with them - when they walk past in the supermarket and you can tell they smoke dope, surely they must realize!

                                    You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy

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                                    When you marinade yourself in a stench, legal or not you eventually stop being able to smell it at all yourself because the receptors in your nose become saturated.

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                                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                      Frankly, there have been times that I just wanted to stop the elevator and throw someone down the shaft.

                                      Good to see those anger management classes are paying off ... now, give into your hatred and your training will be complete. :rolleyes:


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                                      Dan Neely
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                                      "When I joined the Rangers, they told me I had a lot of repressed anger." "And now?" "I'm not repressed anymore."

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                                      • S Steve Mayfield

                                        and now she's your wife! Girls always go for the bad boys :laugh:

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                                        I ain't tellin'. :-D

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                                        • D Dan Neely

                                          When you marinade yourself in a stench, legal or not you eventually stop being able to smell it at all yourself because the receptors in your nose become saturated.

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                                          And besides, you're distracted by the munchies.

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