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  • H Hans Dietrich

    Anyone tried one of these: Intel SSD. I want to see VS open up before I lift my finger from the mouse.

    Best wishes, Hans


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    Ian Shlasko
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    Hans Dietrich wrote:

    I want to see VS open up before I lift my finger from the mouse.

    Bah, it's fine the way it is... I have plenty of time to go get a cup of coffee while I wait for it to load. Ok, I'm exaggerating, and I don't even drink coffee... But think if it like commercials when you're watching TV... It's just an opportunity to do something else :) I just can't make a good joke on a Monday morning, even with caffeine...

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    • H Hans Dietrich

      Anyone tried one of these: Intel SSD. I want to see VS open up before I lift my finger from the mouse.

      Best wishes, Hans


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      R Giskard Reventlov
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      Hans Dietrich wrote:

      I want to see VS open up before I lift my finger from the mouse.

      VS opens before I click the icon on my quantum computer... :-) See they also do a 160gb version: that would be more than enough for me with a decent NAS device.

      me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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      • H Hans Dietrich

        Anyone tried one of these: Intel SSD. I want to see VS open up before I lift my finger from the mouse.

        Best wishes, Hans


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        Simon P Stevens
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        Hans Dietrich wrote:

        I want to see VS open up before I lift my finger from the mouse.

        Easy, just keep your finger pressed down for 5 minutes after the second click. ;)

        Simon

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        • H Hans Dietrich

          Anyone tried one of these: Intel SSD. I want to see VS open up before I lift my finger from the mouse.

          Best wishes, Hans


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          peterchen
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          70 MB/s write speed is a bit low - twice that is common, and there are some devices that supposedly top out SATA II transfer rates.

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            70 MB/s write speed is a bit low - twice that is common, and there are some devices that supposedly top out SATA II transfer rates.

            Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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            Hans Dietrich
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            The sustained read speed is up to 250MB/s. So I'm thinking to just load VS and maybe Office onto the SSD. Do you know of a better SSD? I was looking at Patriot Torqx, which is very fast, but I read some reviews that the drives had died after a few months.

            Best wishes, Hans


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            • H Hans Dietrich

              Anyone tried one of these: Intel SSD. I want to see VS open up before I lift my finger from the mouse.

              Best wishes, Hans


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              Robert Surtees
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              As with all hardware speed improvements, the OS will quickly be modified to consume every bit of the savings. I predict NTFS will be updated to store all data using XML by the end of the year so the current weather and sunspot activity can be associated with each byte stored.

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                70 MB/s write speed is a bit low - twice that is common, and there are some devices that supposedly top out SATA II transfer rates.

                Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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                daniilzol
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                Do not confuse sequential and random read writes. Random writes is what matters most on a boot/application drive and that's where Intel is the King.

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                • P peterchen

                  70 MB/s write speed is a bit low - twice that is common, and there are some devices that supposedly top out SATA II transfer rates.

                  Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
                  | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server.

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                  Dan Neely
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                  True, on sequential writes intel's controller is well behind the competition (the indilynx barefoot controller does ~170MB sustained), but the random read/write scenarios are where 99% of the waiting for an HD occurs and intel's controller is without any rival in the consumer market on that metric.

                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                    Do not confuse sequential and random read writes. Random writes is what matters most on a boot/application drive and that's where Intel is the King.

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                    OCZ specifies e.g. "write: up to 200MB/s, sustained write: up to 100MB/s" - I'm not sure how this compares, though.

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                    • H Hans Dietrich

                      Anyone tried one of these: Intel SSD. I want to see VS open up before I lift my finger from the mouse.

                      Best wishes, Hans


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                      dighn
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                      I have the 1st generation one and it is awesome. VS starts up instantly, as do everything else. The G2 is even faster. Surprisingly, Acrobat Reader still takes a few seconds to start up.

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                        As with all hardware speed improvements, the OS will quickly be modified to consume every bit of the savings. I predict NTFS will be updated to store all data using XML by the end of the year so the current weather and sunspot activity can be associated with each byte stored.

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                        They're in the process of upgrading. But this is right now a low priority task, as they know the hardware manufacturers are going to take a while.

                        “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                        • D dighn

                          I have the 1st generation one and it is awesome. VS starts up instantly, as do everything else. The G2 is even faster. Surprisingly, Acrobat Reader still takes a few seconds to start up.

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          dighn wrote:

                          Surprisingly, Acrobat Reader still takes a few seconds to start up.

                          FTFY

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                          • H Hans Dietrich

                            Anyone tried one of these: Intel SSD. I want to see VS open up before I lift my finger from the mouse.

                            Best wishes, Hans


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                            Jorgen Andersson
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                            I have a 256 GB Samsung in my laptop. It's supposedly not as good as the Intel, but I couldn't be happier with it. It's without competition the best performance boost since I went from floppies to HDD!

                            "When did ignorance become a point of view" - Dilbert

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                            • H Hans Dietrich

                              Anyone tried one of these: Intel SSD. I want to see VS open up before I lift my finger from the mouse.

                              Best wishes, Hans


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                              Matt Gullett
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                              I have one in my home dev PC. It's great. App start times are extremely quick. Where I feel the biggest benefit is not app launch times, it's in multi-tasking situations. For instance, when building a large project in VC, with a HDD, switching to other apps can be slow due to HDD activity. With the SSD, no lag whatsoever. I can build 2 or 3 projects at the same time while surfing the net, switching apps (e.g. Word/Excel), etc.

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                                I have one in my home dev PC. It's great. App start times are extremely quick. Where I feel the biggest benefit is not app launch times, it's in multi-tasking situations. For instance, when building a large project in VC, with a HDD, switching to other apps can be slow due to HDD activity. With the SSD, no lag whatsoever. I can build 2 or 3 projects at the same time while surfing the net, switching apps (e.g. Word/Excel), etc.

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                                Disabling your pagefile also removes the lag at application switching..

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                                • J Jorgen Andersson

                                  dighn wrote:

                                  Surprisingly, Acrobat Reader still takes a few seconds to start up.

                                  FTFY

                                  "When did ignorance become a point of view" - Dilbert

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                                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                  Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                  dighn wrote: Unsurprisingly, Acrobat Reader still takes a few seconds to start up. FTFY

                                  FTFY :-\

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                                  • H Hans Dietrich

                                    The sustained read speed is up to 250MB/s. So I'm thinking to just load VS and maybe Office onto the SSD. Do you know of a better SSD? I was looking at Patriot Torqx, which is very fast, but I read some reviews that the drives had died after a few months.

                                    Best wishes, Hans


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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    Hans Dietrich wrote:

                                    Do you know of a better SSD? I was looking at Patriot Torqx, which is very fast, but I read some reviews that the drives had died after a few months.

                                    If their size/capacities fit your needs/budgets the Intel SSDs are your best bet. The Indilynx Barefoot controller (used in the Torqx and most other consumer ssds on the market) is significantly faster on sequential reads, but the intel kills it on random accesss performance. Both drives will offer sequential read performance in the 250-270MB/sec range with luck of the draw in flash chips being a major driver because that level corresponds to saturating the SATA bus. The only other established controllers on the market are poor (Samsung) or worse than nothing (JMicron); and while there are several new controllers out (including on by JMicron that fixes the previous models failings) that are as fast or faster than the competition none have been around long enough to prove their reliability. If you're willing to take a chance on them, Anand's reviewed both so check his storage articles. I haven't seen any reports of unusual failure rates for any Indilynx based drives, although both they (more specifically at least on of the companies using their controller) and Intel have released at least one firmware that has resulted in data loss. The bad indilynx firmware didn't maintain a coherent state if the computer went into standby mode while it was performing a trim. I don't recall what the problem with the Intel firmware was.

                                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                    • H Hans Dietrich

                                      Anyone tried one of these: Intel SSD. I want to see VS open up before I lift my finger from the mouse.

                                      Best wishes, Hans


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                                      Nicholas Butler
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                                      I've been using one for nearly a year and it's fantastic. VS2008 loads in ~4 secs and VS2010 RC in ~3 secs, but the best thing is that the whole system feels more responsive. I highly recommend getting one! My 80GB formatted to give 75GB and with Windows 7, Office, MSDN, VS 2008 & 2010 I have 35GB left. I turned off hibernation and moved my swap file to a hard drive. Nick

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                                        I've been using one for nearly a year and it's fantastic. VS2008 loads in ~4 secs and VS2010 RC in ~3 secs, but the best thing is that the whole system feels more responsive. I highly recommend getting one! My 80GB formatted to give 75GB and with Windows 7, Office, MSDN, VS 2008 & 2010 I have 35GB left. I turned off hibernation and moved my swap file to a hard drive. Nick

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                                        Abhinav S
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                                        Nicholas Butler wrote:

                                        VS2008 loads in ~4 secs and VS2010 RC in ~3 secs,

                                        I don't have one of those super processors and Visual Studio 8 loads very fast. Visual Studio 10, however, takes ages.

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                                          Nicholas Butler wrote:

                                          VS2008 loads in ~4 secs and VS2010 RC in ~3 secs,

                                          I don't have one of those super processors and Visual Studio 8 loads very fast. Visual Studio 10, however, takes ages.

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                                          Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                          Abhinav S wrote:

                                          I don't have one of those super processors and Visual Studio 8 loads very fast.

                                          We're not talking about processors, are we? This is about solid state drives from Intel.

                                          “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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