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  • L Lost User

    Dan_Martin wrote:

    reckon I pronounce most of those (h)aitches, on account of how I was brought up to talk proper like.

    Sorry, thats wrong. Its not 'propper' to aspirate the 'h', its an affectation. Look at how the French pronounce it. And then remember that French and upper class English are synonymous (to a large extent).

    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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    Dalek Dave
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    fat_boy wrote:

    remember that French and upper class English are synonymous (to a large extent).

    Pistols at dawn Sir!

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      Dan_Martin wrote:

      reckon I pronounce most of those (h)aitches, on account of how I was brought up to talk proper like.

      Sorry, thats wrong. Its not 'propper' to aspirate the 'h', its an affectation. Look at how the French pronounce it. And then remember that French and upper class English are synonymous (to a large extent).

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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      Yes, quite. But I am neither upper class, nor French.

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        fat_boy wrote:

        remember that French and upper class English are synonymous (to a large extent).

        Pistols at dawn Sir!

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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        Dalek Dave wrote:

        Pistols at dawn

        Do you require a second, sir?

        You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy

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          Dan_Martin wrote:

          reckon I pronounce most of those (h)aitches, on account of how I was brought up to talk proper like.

          Sorry, thats wrong. Its not 'propper' to aspirate the 'h', its an affectation. Look at how the French pronounce it. And then remember that French and upper class English are synonymous (to a large extent).

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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          OriginalGriff
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          I think you will find that the English upper class is actually German, not French...

          You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Dalek Dave wrote:

            Pistols at dawn

            Do you require a second, sir?

            You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy

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            Dalek Dave
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            That in uncommonly decent of you to ask. Certainly, issue his man with the details and arrange whether it is to the death or first blood.

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              I think you will find that the English upper class is actually German, not French...

              You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy

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              Dalek Dave
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              Elizabeth Alexandra Schlesweg-Holstein Saxe-Coburg-Gotha Battenberg, or as we know it, The Queen, is German? Mein Gott In Himmel! Where will it end?

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                After hearing an ad for a computer on TV, I realized that PC names for some reason are ambiguous in their pronunciation? For Example: Acer - is it: (1) "EH" "SIR" or (2) "ACK" "ER" Asus - is it (1) "EH" "SUS" or (2) "AS" "US" ASRock - is it (1) "EH" "S" "ROCK" or (2) "AS" "ROCK" I think they are all (1). Does this apply only to computers starting with "A"? Inquirying minds want to know.

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                Lost User
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                It's marketing speak.

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                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  Although to my dying day I will NEVER use Aluminum!

                  If you lived over there you would have to or no one would know what you were talking about! The hardest one is water. If you ask for water with an English accent they don't have a clue: you have to draw it out, slowly with the emphasis on the 'a'. And they still don't know what a wanker is! :-)

                  me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                  Dan Neely
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                  digital man wrote:

                  And they still don't know what a wanker is! Smile

                  :rolleyes: *Holds a mirror up in front of digital man.*

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                  • H hairy_hats

                    I think it's 'ay-suss'.

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                    Dan Neely
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                    Sorry. I've seen a few articles from people who were invited to visit their facilities in Taiwan, Christian's right; most of us guessed wrong. :doh:

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                    • D Dan Neely

                      digital man wrote:

                      And they still don't know what a wanker is! Smile

                      :rolleyes: *Holds a mirror up in front of digital man.*

                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                      Touche! Guess I asked for that! :-)

                      me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Elizabeth Alexandra Schlesweg-Holstein Saxe-Coburg-Gotha Battenberg, or as we know it, The Queen, is German? Mein Gott In Himmel! Where will it end?

                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        Where will it end?

                        With a German / Greek cross-breed vegetable talker, I suspect. Certainly he and his wife encourage me to believe in a republic... If only it could skip a generation!

                        You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          Asus is pronounced 'ay' - 'soos'.

                          Only because the 'N' key was broken.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          hairy_hats
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                          Asun?

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                          • D Dan_Martin

                            To quote Eddie Izzard: 'You say "'erbs", we say "herbs". Because there's a f*****g h in it.'

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                            Single Step Debugger
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                            Dan_Martin wrote:

                            To quote Eddie Izzard: 'You say "'erbs", we say "herbs". Because there's a f*****g h in it.'

                            Five for quoting Eddie Izzard, the guy is f***ing hilarious!

                            The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              Honestly, I say that every Hour your Honour, I should shepherd my resources as I am exhausted. :)

                              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                              Gregory Gadow
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                              In 'Artford, 'Ereford and 'Ampshire, 'urricanes 'ardly hever 'appen.

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                I think it is from a cultural perspective often very difficult to get pronunciation right. You have to be especially careful in far eastern tonal languages. Even in two close countries like US and UK there is much zealotry in the way we think the other speaks. Although to my dying day I will NEVER use Aluminum!

                                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                                John M Drescher
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                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                US and UK there is much zealotry

                                Heck as Americans we complain how the the north or south speak!

                                John

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                                  Elizabeth Alexandra Schlesweg-Holstein Saxe-Coburg-Gotha Battenberg, or as we know it, The Queen, is German? Mein Gott In Himmel! Where will it end?

                                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                                  Gregory Gadow
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                                  Yup. Willy the Conqueror was French (Norman, actually, but close enough.) For about 400 years after the Conquest, the language of the royal court was French; this can be seen in in the different words used to describe something when it is alive (pig, cow, sheep, deer and flax are Anglo-Saxon words used by the peasants) and something used (pork, beef, mutton, venison and linen are all French words used by the aristocracy.) It was not until the War of the Roses and the rise of the Tudor dynasty in the early 15th century that English became the royal language. That changed to German with the Hanoveran dynasty and George I. He spoke only German, and while he and his son (the future George II) studied English, they were never fluent in it. George III could speak English passably, but never really learned to read or write it (it is said that when the US Declaration of Independence arrived, he had to have it read to him.) George IV (the Prince Regent to you Black Adder fans) was the first monarch in almost a hundred years who could speak, read and write English as his native tongue.

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                                    I think it is from a cultural perspective often very difficult to get pronunciation right. You have to be especially careful in far eastern tonal languages. Even in two close countries like US and UK there is much zealotry in the way we think the other speaks. Although to my dying day I will NEVER use Aluminum!

                                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                                    Rob Graham
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                                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                                    Although to my dying day I will NEVER use Aluminum!

                                    Yeah, I prefer stainless steel as well.

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                                    • S Sandeep Mewara

                                      french fires! ;)

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                                      WiGgLr
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                                      freedom fires?

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                                      • M Member 3717204

                                        After hearing an ad for a computer on TV, I realized that PC names for some reason are ambiguous in their pronunciation? For Example: Acer - is it: (1) "EH" "SIR" or (2) "ACK" "ER" Asus - is it (1) "EH" "SUS" or (2) "AS" "US" ASRock - is it (1) "EH" "S" "ROCK" or (2) "AS" "ROCK" I think they are all (1). Does this apply only to computers starting with "A"? Inquirying minds want to know.

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        Maybe, if you're from Canada.

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                                        • G Gregory Gadow

                                          Yup. Willy the Conqueror was French (Norman, actually, but close enough.) For about 400 years after the Conquest, the language of the royal court was French; this can be seen in in the different words used to describe something when it is alive (pig, cow, sheep, deer and flax are Anglo-Saxon words used by the peasants) and something used (pork, beef, mutton, venison and linen are all French words used by the aristocracy.) It was not until the War of the Roses and the rise of the Tudor dynasty in the early 15th century that English became the royal language. That changed to German with the Hanoveran dynasty and George I. He spoke only German, and while he and his son (the future George II) studied English, they were never fluent in it. George III could speak English passably, but never really learned to read or write it (it is said that when the US Declaration of Independence arrived, he had to have it read to him.) George IV (the Prince Regent to you Black Adder fans) was the first monarch in almost a hundred years who could speak, read and write English as his native tongue.

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                                          Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                          That explains a lot about how the UK screwed up the English language. Good thing we kept it alive in the Colonies! :-\

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                                          Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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