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  • H hairy_hats

    Ummm...it's all made up, you know. I can't remember the last time I was truly scared by a film, if ever.

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    Lost User
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    Of course it is, but some reason fake things scare me more than real things (the "Offended" page at ED doesn't scare me, it makes me sick but that's something else)

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      Seriously, don't take the kind of reply you've been getting seriously. Children are so incredibly robust, if you let them be so. It's your reaction to things that can upset/frighten/worry them. For a pretty extreme example: -- Alien: If you watch this for the first time, you will be tense and nervous. This will make your lad tense and nervous, and, because he doesn't really know what he's being tense and nervous about, he'll be in a terrible mood, and fearful. -- Aliens: If you watch this for the first time, you will be excited and thrilled (it's a different kind of movie, and they're both made well). This will make your lad excited and thrilled, etc, watching the nasty monsters get smushed. The difference? You. If you act like he's going to be frightened, he will be frightened, have nightmares, the works. If you act like you're having fun, when watching bad-guys (and especially monsters) get beaten, he will join you in your fun. Kids aren't afraid of monsters. Parents are afraid of monsters. Children depend heavily on their parents for knowing what to feel and how to react to the world. If you show no fear, he will know no fear. To quote one of my favourite songs: "Momma's gonna put all of her fears into you..."

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      I love Pink Floyd. And yes, most fears are learned. I was never afraid of spiders because my dad taught me not to be, when he moved away for work for a while, I learned to be afraid as my mother and sister were afraid. Now I'm afraid, and jump whenever I see one! Although I was scared watching Aliens, even though my parents liked it. I'd wait for the film to come out on DVD and watch it at home, at least then you can stop it and come back later if the kid loses interest.

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        Seriously, don't take the kind of reply you've been getting seriously. Children are so incredibly robust, if you let them be so. It's your reaction to things that can upset/frighten/worry them. For a pretty extreme example: -- Alien: If you watch this for the first time, you will be tense and nervous. This will make your lad tense and nervous, and, because he doesn't really know what he's being tense and nervous about, he'll be in a terrible mood, and fearful. -- Aliens: If you watch this for the first time, you will be excited and thrilled (it's a different kind of movie, and they're both made well). This will make your lad excited and thrilled, etc, watching the nasty monsters get smushed. The difference? You. If you act like he's going to be frightened, he will be frightened, have nightmares, the works. If you act like you're having fun, when watching bad-guys (and especially monsters) get beaten, he will join you in your fun. Kids aren't afraid of monsters. Parents are afraid of monsters. Children depend heavily on their parents for knowing what to feel and how to react to the world. If you show no fear, he will know no fear. To quote one of my favourite songs: "Momma's gonna put all of her fears into you..."

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        Dinesh Mani
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        Mark Wallace wrote:

        Kids aren't afraid of monsters. Parents are afraid of monsters. Children depend heavily on their parents for knowing what to feel and how to react to the world. If you show no fear, he will know no fear.

        Very true!

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          Mark Wallace wrote:

          Kids aren't afraid of monsters. Parents are afraid of monsters. Children depend heavily on their parents for knowing what to feel and how to react to the world. If you show no fear, he will know no fear.

          Very true!

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          brianlbonin
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          My two year old is not afraid of monsters. We have taught her that monsters dont exist to hurt you and generally they are funny. She even plays monster and makes monster noises. Same thing with robots. She does the robot dance and talks like a robot. But she is afraid of snakes. I think her mother must have gotten to her when I wasn't looking.

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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            Powerful experiences might cause serious changes in the development of his mind. I think it is a bad idea for toddlers and preteens to watch TV, unless its a real wholesome show.He might be traumatized and permanently effected.

            Jesus wept. You've never had kids, then? You forgot to add: -- Buy lots of cotton wool, to wrap him in, 24 hours a day. -- Throw away all the knives, forks, and spoons with a bit of a sharp edge. -- Burn any furniture and knock down any walls that don't have two-inch padding. ... And, for God's sake, keep him away from all other children! There's no telling what awful diseases that might be carrying!

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            aubndez
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            LMAO! Thank you so much....I was thinking the same thing when I read that! Better that you, the parent or guardian, expose the child...than somebody else down the line... Honestly, about the movie -- probably not the right movie for a 2 year old. But my kids started going to movies at 3 years old. Disney's Brother Bear, Over the Hedge, The Incredibles, Monster's Inc, Chicken Little, etc.

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              Seriously, don't take the kind of reply you've been getting seriously. Children are so incredibly robust, if you let them be so. It's your reaction to things that can upset/frighten/worry them. For a pretty extreme example: -- Alien: If you watch this for the first time, you will be tense and nervous. This will make your lad tense and nervous, and, because he doesn't really know what he's being tense and nervous about, he'll be in a terrible mood, and fearful. -- Aliens: If you watch this for the first time, you will be excited and thrilled (it's a different kind of movie, and they're both made well). This will make your lad excited and thrilled, etc, watching the nasty monsters get smushed. The difference? You. If you act like he's going to be frightened, he will be frightened, have nightmares, the works. If you act like you're having fun, when watching bad-guys (and especially monsters) get beaten, he will join you in your fun. Kids aren't afraid of monsters. Parents are afraid of monsters. Children depend heavily on their parents for knowing what to feel and how to react to the world. If you show no fear, he will know no fear. To quote one of my favourite songs: "Momma's gonna put all of her fears into you..."

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              aubndez
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              Another example: Taught my daughter that bugs were cool. My son (older than his sister) freaked out when she tried to "pet a bee". In turn, she got freaked out, and now is screamingly scared of all flying insects. Fear is taught...

              "Is it normal to hear 'My server doesn't work. Did you rebuild the database?' " - quotes from old work places lead to the most interesting conversations....

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              • N Nish Nishant

                Maximilien wrote:

                IMO, no; not because of the movie itself, the kid is too young to comprehend what's going on , but because movies (in general) are loud, and that kids of that age need more attention than what you cou ld give them at a viewing. Me think you should take turn to go see the movie, or get a babysitter.

                Thanks Maximilien. I was primarily thinking of introducing him to the whole concept of watching a movie on the big screen. The 3D won't work since it's unlikely he'll keep the glasses on the whole time. I guess I'll wait till he's a little older and also for a more kid-friendly movie, like Finding Nemo.

                Regards, Nish


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                Fabio Franco
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                My son will be 3 years old on April 3rd. He already got a pretty good grasp on movies. He memorized pretty much all lines of Shrek 1 and 2 and has a pretty good understanding on the movies' plot. However that didn't when he turned 2, it started to happen about 5 months after that. Before that he could hardly keep his attention to the movie. I agree that the movie theater is too loud for him. He will get scared and perhaps get an early trauma of going to movie theaters. You should definitely avoid taking him to the movies for now. And yes, there are more kid-friendly movies that would be better for him: Try, Finding Nemo (my son's first favorite), Shrek, Ice Age, and others alike.

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                  Powerful experiences might cause serious changes in the development of his mind. I think it is a bad idea for toddlers and preteens to watch TV, unless its a real wholesome show. He might be traumatized and permanently effected.

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                  Fabio Franco
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                  I beleive that's an exageration. Of course you shouldn't put a 2 year old kid to watch Die Hard, but for my experience there is no harm on movies like Shrek, Finding Nemo, Ice Age or others of the kind. And there are also a handful of suitable TV shows on Discovery Kids. If there is one thing all of this taught me is that its good for them. My son slows down a little when he is watching these kind of shows (he runs too much, avoid some accidents) and is very rewarding to see him smiling and laughin on the parts he finds funny.

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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    I've got a question for CPian parents here (uncles and aunts too I guess). Would the non 3D version of Alice in Wonderland be suitable for a 2 year old? He has never even been to a movie so far, so that's another factor. Thanks for any and all suggestions.

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                    RC Roeder
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                    No this movie is not suitable for someone that young. As someone who enjoys movies, I do find it offensive that parents do bring young children to the theater, for age in appropriate movies. Watching Avatar (11pm showing) with a screaming 4 year old kid one idle down was not fun. They stopped the showing and had to ask them to leave. Up where I live, a local theater has a special Sunday showing for parents and kids, designed for introducing children to the movie experience. You might want to seek them out. Remember the rest of us are putting down $15 or better on seat to enjoy a movie with out distractions.

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                      Seriously, don't take the kind of reply you've been getting seriously. Children are so incredibly robust, if you let them be so. It's your reaction to things that can upset/frighten/worry them. For a pretty extreme example: -- Alien: If you watch this for the first time, you will be tense and nervous. This will make your lad tense and nervous, and, because he doesn't really know what he's being tense and nervous about, he'll be in a terrible mood, and fearful. -- Aliens: If you watch this for the first time, you will be excited and thrilled (it's a different kind of movie, and they're both made well). This will make your lad excited and thrilled, etc, watching the nasty monsters get smushed. The difference? You. If you act like he's going to be frightened, he will be frightened, have nightmares, the works. If you act like you're having fun, when watching bad-guys (and especially monsters) get beaten, he will join you in your fun. Kids aren't afraid of monsters. Parents are afraid of monsters. Children depend heavily on their parents for knowing what to feel and how to react to the world. If you show no fear, he will know no fear. To quote one of my favourite songs: "Momma's gonna put all of her fears into you..."

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      dandez
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                      My 3 year old girl loved this movie, and proudly tells people that she "even watched the scary jabberwocky bits". There were plenty of other little kids in the 3D screening we went too, no-one freaked out. Go for it.

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