Censorship or Bing's poor search algorithm
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I have to vote in favor of the "censorship" theory... Even if you go into their advanced search, and specify that it should ONLY return results from openoffice.org, it STILL won't return the simple home page... Only subdomains... See here: http://www.bing.com/search?q=openoffice.org+site%3Aopenoffice.org&form=QBRE&qb=2[^]
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)If it is censorship, that is very scary and we should use google instead.
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How come Bing will not return a link to http://www.openoffice.org/ no matter what you search for?
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I'm going to guess that it's simply an artifact of how Bing aggregates search data. There is a possibility that Google would be the same except the Open Office people have paid Google to have it show as first hit or the Open Office engineers have gamed the page to force Google to display it first. What's interesting is how so few pages get indexed on Google before you get to similar results as in Bing. This leads to a further theory that Bing was specifically programmed to ignore the common techniques used to game Google. Finally, note that one of the early hits takes you to a Sun, now Oracle, site. Is it possible that Oracle itself is manipulating search hits in order to direct them into their domain and that, in fact, it's Google that's artificially adjusting the search results? (Not altruistically, but to get Oracle to pony up some money? And please, don't say that Google wouldn't do this, it's exactly what they did just a few years ago.)
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If it is censorship, that is very scary and we should use google instead.
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Todd, honestly, who in his or her right mind would use Bing willingly other for the sound effect caused by the name? I mean, really!
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Are you sure? I get the openoffice.org wikipedia page, and the openoffice.org page on sun.com, followed by a sketchy parked site at openoffice_.com_... (latter search only)
I tried the same thing and get everything OpenOffice, not just the wiki page.
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I'm going to guess that it's simply an artifact of how Bing aggregates search data. There is a possibility that Google would be the same except the Open Office people have paid Google to have it show as first hit or the Open Office engineers have gamed the page to force Google to display it first. What's interesting is how so few pages get indexed on Google before you get to similar results as in Bing. This leads to a further theory that Bing was specifically programmed to ignore the common techniques used to game Google. Finally, note that one of the early hits takes you to a Sun, now Oracle, site. Is it possible that Oracle itself is manipulating search hits in order to direct them into their domain and that, in fact, it's Google that's artificially adjusting the search results? (Not altruistically, but to get Oracle to pony up some money? And please, don't say that Google wouldn't do this, it's exactly what they did just a few years ago.)
But look at my previous reply above... Even if you restrict the search to the openoffice.org domain, it only shows you subdomains... That, to me, says there's something fishy going on. Hmm... Now I want sushi.
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But look at my previous reply above... Even if you restrict the search to the openoffice.org domain, it only shows you subdomains... That, to me, says there's something fishy going on. Hmm... Now I want sushi.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)I really don't think so. I do think this is an artifact of how keywords are aggregated. I further suspect Oracle wants to dump the openoffice.org domain as a stand-alone entity and redirect traffic into it's own more clearly branded site. (I have no problem with this; Oracle is a business that wants to make money, Open Office is now their baby; have at it.) One important point you seem to be missing is that all the hits on Bing do lead a person to be able to download open office and the link into Oracle's site is arguably more useful than the home page for openoffice.org. (Note that the latter link is labeled OpenOffice.org. Oracle is clearly doing some branding here. And trying to sell StarOffice. In fact the more I look at this, the more I'm convinced that this is Oracle's doing, not Bing's and that Google is manipulating their results and forcing the openoffice.org home page to be the top result.)
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How come Bing will not return a link to http://www.openoffice.org/ no matter what you search for?
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When I type in Open Office, I get "Were you looking for: openoffice" which, when clicked, has openoffice.org as the second result (the first being the Wikipedia page for it). Cheers, Drew.
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When I type in Open Office, I get "Were you looking for: openoffice" which, when clicked, has openoffice.org as the second result (the first being the Wikipedia page for it). Cheers, Drew.
The link openoffice.org does not go to openoffice.org though. Try it.
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How come Bing will not return a link to http://www.openoffice.org/ no matter what you search for?
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I don't get exactly that, but I get many results within openoffice(scripts.openoffice) or with direct links (sun open office).
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How come Bing will not return a link to http://www.openoffice.org/ no matter what you search for?
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openoffice.org won't show on mine either. The first results are the broffice.org, which is the brazilian version of open office. But no sign of openoffice.org On google I get almost the same results, except openoffice.org shows up in sixth place. Weird indeed.
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Click on the first link that says: OpenOffice Suite Free and you're on the OpenOffice site.
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surprisingly, it works as expected. (Binged "Open Office" from Canada).
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Binging it from Ireland gets everything BUT the openoffice.org website.
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How come Bing will not return a link to http://www.openoffice.org/ no matter what you search for?
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I am in favour of the censorship answer for if I search for "south florida church" I get, as expected, in both Bing and Google, "http://southfloridachurch.org/" as the first result. But when I search bing for "openoffice.org" I still do not get "http://openoffice.org/" !?! I thought to myself, "what would happen if I searched for 'blogger' or 'orkut' on Bing?" "Blogger" did not return 'http://www.blogger.com/' nor did "orcut" return 'http://www.orkut.com/' (except in the sponsored link) on Bing. (I did get 'http://www.orkut.com/main' but I could not get the root back in a search result). I call that censorship. Just for giggles, I also searched Bing for "google" and Google for "bing" and got my giggles. CONCLUSION: Bing is not a search engine. It is a Microsoft marketing tool and propaganda engine.
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How come Bing will not return a link to http://www.openoffice.org/ no matter what you search for?
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just use go-oo.org any way
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I am in favour of the censorship answer for if I search for "south florida church" I get, as expected, in both Bing and Google, "http://southfloridachurch.org/" as the first result. But when I search bing for "openoffice.org" I still do not get "http://openoffice.org/" !?! I thought to myself, "what would happen if I searched for 'blogger' or 'orkut' on Bing?" "Blogger" did not return 'http://www.blogger.com/' nor did "orcut" return 'http://www.orkut.com/' (except in the sponsored link) on Bing. (I did get 'http://www.orkut.com/main' but I could not get the root back in a search result). I call that censorship. Just for giggles, I also searched Bing for "google" and Google for "bing" and got my giggles. CONCLUSION: Bing is not a search engine. It is a Microsoft marketing tool and propaganda engine.
MS sucks today.
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How come Bing will not return a link to http://www.openoffice.org/ no matter what you search for?
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Search on "OpenOffice website" gave me a link to website.openoffice.org. Tried other searches and got the same crap everyone else noticed. Nice that they give you a link to openoffice.com ad site, but not the actual homepage.
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Click on the first link that says: OpenOffice Suite Free and you're on the OpenOffice site.
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http://es.openoffice.org/?intcmp=1480 Is in the list this is the spanish site... A and yet a direct query of "openoffice.org" returns no direct link...
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How come Bing will not return a link to http://www.openoffice.org/ no matter what you search for?
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It appears to be the third option no one considered... http://searchengineland.com/openofficeorg-mia-in-bing-but-not-censorship-39004 [^]
modified on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:27 PM
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Well, my search for open office returns openoffice.org.nz as the first result (yes I'm in NZ), then a bunch of pages on the openoffice.org domain. Oh yes then the wiki page (as hosted by bing) My guess is that bing has some personalisation in the search algorithm and has decided that you don't deserve to get served up the openoffice.org site...
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It comes up in the top two for me when I search on "open office" or "openoffice". What terms are you using?
Bing from Australia - I get openoffice.org.au as the first result for "openoffice".