50 Best Sci-Fi TV shows of all time

Ian Shlasko

Well, I can give you my top 5... 1) Babylon 5 2) Firefly 3) ST: DS9 4) Heroes 5) ST: TNG Would probably have Dr. Who on that list, but I haven't seen much of it.

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R Giskard Reventlov

I agree that some of the shows selected are not remotely science fiction; still, fun to be reminded of some of the older shows.

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ragnaroknrol

Heroes broke it for me when Sylar began to flip flop more than a politician behind in the polls. "I'm a monster, no a good guy, I am misunderstood, no an anti-hero, no a bad guy...maybe?" Bab 5 as #1, interesting. Dr. Who would definitely be in there considering the rest of the list.

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Ian Shlasko

ragnaroknrol wrote:

Heroes broke it for me when Sylar began to flip flop more than a politician behind in the polls.

I actually like that... I don't like it when shows decide "Ok, this guy is 100% evil"... In real life, there's no such thing as "good" and "evil". I mean, look at Babylon 5... The "evil" guys were never really "evil"... Just different points of view. They're only "evil" because their views oppose those of the protagonists. It's cool how Sylar keeps jumping around... Sometimes he's just on a killing frenzy, and sometimes he's with the "good guys"... But when he's a "good guy," you're always wondering when he's going to switch sides again and betray them. I call that good writing.

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Dalek Dave

Ian Shlasko wrote:

I don't like it when shows decide "Ok, this guy is 100% evil"... In real life, there's no such thing as "good" and "evil"

Hitler, Ghengis Khan, Pol Pot, Simon Cowell?

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kinar

Shows like Buffy (or anything dealin with vamps, warewolves, etc) don't make the list...thats fantasy, not scifi. Shows like Xena, Hercules, etc don't make it cause those are mythology shows, not scifi

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wheres blakes 7 or quatermass? or red dwarf!!! come to think of it, based on some of these, where is the prisoner? tommorrow people? saffire and steel? joe 90 stingray captain scarlett the clangers - surely they should be top ten

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kinar

Not sure who Pol Pot was and I'm sure that Simon Cowell is just on there in jest but... You consider those people evil? I don't so much. Sure they were in-humane but not necesarily evil. In-humane != evil.

R Giskard Reventlov

Fireball XL5? Supercar? The Survivors? (okay, that was crap) Sadly there are so many and it is so subjective that it's unlikely that any 2 people would agree what should and should not be on the list.

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Alex hogarth wrote:

red dwarf

Forgot about that one. Good fun.

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digital man wrote:

unlikely that any 2 people would agree

We both don't have to agree, you just have to agree with me ;P

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R Giskard Reventlov

Hitler, Ghengis Khan, Pol Pot

kinar wrote:

You consider those people evil? I don't so much.

That has to be the dumbest and most ignorant thing I've read all day. They personify evil in a very real way: they used violence and killing as a means to an end and thought nothing of committing genocide and, apart from everything else they did, killed millions of innocent people. That's not evil? Only form their perspective, perhaps, but not from any sane point of view.

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Ian Shlasko

Evil is a matter of perspective. I doubt Hitler thought he was the "bad guy"... He thought he was "purifying" the human race, right? The whole "Aryan nation" garbage? Yeah, from OUR perspective, he was "evil", but really he just had a different point of view... And needed to die a painful death.

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R Giskard Reventlov

Ah, if only, if only... :)

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ragnaroknrol

It wasn't about good or evil. It was about being wishy washy. He had no conviction. If you are going to be a monster, be a damn monster. But wanting to be a good guy, wanting to fix your addiction, embracing it, just being a jerk, being power mad, being the nicest guy around, and then something else wasn't consistent. I don't call it good writing. I call it "the good guys should have spaced him already, may not die, but he can enjoy a trip to mars for a few centuries to get some perspective. Bester was consistent. He did things for the corps. He did things for him. He wanted humanity on top, and psi-cops in charge of humanity when they time was right. Mordin was a self-serving genie. But you knew where he stood. All of the B-5 characters were pretty consistent. You may not have liked them, they may have gone through changes, but when they were there, you knew their motivations and goals. Sylar felt like a lost character looking for a niche because the writers were tired of the niche being "villain." His motivations felt external after the whole "you are brothers" thing. Heck, Mal has some weird honor code yet you never felt like he was doing things capriciously. Even when he was being a complete jerk or killed someone you could figure out why. "Darn."

Jim Crafton

Gag, DS9 and TNG blew for the most part. Way too PC. The Borg episodes were reasonably cool though.

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Ian Shlasko

kinar wrote:

or anything dealin with vamps, warewolves, etc

Unless the source of said vampires/werewolves is described as failed genetics or bio-warfare experiment, and their "special traits" are explained in scientific terms. Certain zombie movies have achieved this... I think it's been done to some degree with vampires, but no examples come to mind.

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