Are recruitment agencies to full of them selves?

R Giskard Reventlov

Yes, they are; just ignore them, they'll be back when they have something else to tempt you with and then they'll be all sweetness and light.

me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

Doctor Nick

Manique wrote:

Anyway I going to watch Pompey Vs. Tottenham on Sunday (FA Cup Semi Final)

Bah! Should have been Fulham :(( Not to say Spurs didn't earn it but they've been playing a bit flat lately after they put together that string of wins. Oh well. There's always the Europa which we'll see today:~

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Dalek Dave

My beloved Luton Town, 8 wins on the trot, 28 goals in 6 games! Hoping to get promotion without going through the playoffs.

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Doctor Nick

Yeah, just a few weeks ago I wasn't even worried about relegation and it was looking like they were concentrating on the FA and Europe but now I'm starting to think they need to worry a bit about relegation again... :~

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Manique

I'm resigned to relegation, spare a thought, but it would be a nice gesture against the FA and the BBC if Pompey got to the final.

Bassam Saoud

Manique wrote:

I originally said yes, but my current employer gave me an offer I could not afford to refuse.

I would never accept an exit offer no matter how good the ofer is. More over, in my opinion, accepting an offer and then refusing it is just un professional. I am not judging, merely giving an advice.

Doctor Nick

So true. I feel badly for the players in this because they've really come on lately. I forget how many points they were stripped of but where would they be had that no happened?

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R Giskard Reventlov

Bassam Saoud wrote:

I would never accept an exit offer no matter how good the offer is. More over, in my opinion, accepting an offer and then refusing it is just unprofessional.

Good point.

me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

ragnaroknrol

My wife got a recruiter telling her of a "great opportunity." She's got experience with some equipment that is pretty specialized and so the going rate for her is pretty high. She's currently making 65K in Iowa (Equal job in Chicago is in 6 figures and cost of living makes them comparable) The company offered her 40K. She says she actually did the double blink thing and laughed before she caught herself. "No really, what are you guys offering?" They were serious. This was IBM. She thanked them for their time and left. The recruiter has tried to get her to take the same job once and a different job from them that would be working FOR the person that would be in the job she turned down and would be less pay. I keep telling her to tell the recruiter that if the company lists "competitive salary" they can ignore it for her or find out if they mean "so cheap we are ashamed to list it."

Manique

Maybe, but my loyality is to my family, and if have have a better quality of life by taking the counter offer than so be it. Any way, the way a lot of the lay-offs in the recession can hardly be said to have been done in a profesional manner - most where knee-jerk reactions.

Media2r

Bassam Saoud wrote:

accepting an offer and then refusing it is just un professional.

True. But at the end of the day you have far more responsibility for yourself than any employer. That said, one does run the risk of burning a bridge one might want to cross later. At the end of the day it is a judgement call, where pros and cons needs to be counted. //L

hairy_hats

Manique wrote:

Anyway I going to watch Pompey Vs. Tottenham on Sunday

As if you weren't depressed enough.

Dr Walt Fair PE

I think the professional thing to do would have been to talk to your management before looking for a job! If you couldn't do that, then what would the point of staying be? Look at it from the corporate point of view: 1) Your company now knows you can be bought easily. 2) The agency did spend time on you, whether you appreciate that or not. 3) If the company you were going to work with now knows you'll go back on your word and can't be trusted. Sounds like everyone loses to me. But hopefully the corporate memories will be short enough not to hurt you in the long run. Me? I have this game I play to see how many head hunters I can get to take me to lunch before I tell them I'm not interested in finding a job. I never do it under false pretenses, but so far I've had a couple dozen lunches over the years.

CQ de W5ALT

Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

Doctor Nick

ragnaroknrol wrote:

She's currently making 65K in Iowa

Where abouts? 65K isn't much in the big city of Des Moines. :-D

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Not Active

Manique wrote:

my current employer gave me an offer I could not afford to refuse.

You should have refused. Studies have shown that people who accept counter offers from their employers are gone within six months anyway. You have already shown you have no loyalty to the company and will jump for more money, benefits, etc., it won't be forgotten. There was a reason you started looking and accepted the offer. What has changed? Will it be permanent? Also, if you were worth it (not saying you aren't) they would have paid without the threat of going elsewhere.

I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

Media2r

As I stated in my reply below - I agree. This above all: to thine own self be true. //L

Ian Shlasko

Ha... I usually don't even ask the salary... I take one look at the job description and say "You're kidding, right?"

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Not Active

Manique wrote:

most where knee-jerk reactions

I would disagree. Most companies, especially large ones don't take it lightly, there is a lot of paperwork and planning that goes into layoffs and terminations. Especially in a litigious society where they could be sued for the slightest hint of discrimination.

I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

Media2r

Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

The agency did spend time on you, whether you appreciate that or not.

For the premium they charge me when I do accept a job, I could not possibly care less. //L

Manique

I am in a very different situation to most. It is a small company and as part of the deal, I get a sizable stake in the company I work for. You do not get that in most places.