Are recruitment agencies to full of them selves?

hairy_hats

Manique wrote:

Anyway I going to watch Pompey Vs. Tottenham on Sunday

As if you weren't depressed enough.

Media2r

Bassam Saoud wrote:

accepting an offer and then refusing it is just un professional.

True. But at the end of the day you have far more responsibility for yourself than any employer. That said, one does run the risk of burning a bridge one might want to cross later. At the end of the day it is a judgement call, where pros and cons needs to be counted. //L

Dr Walt Fair PE

I think the professional thing to do would have been to talk to your management before looking for a job! If you couldn't do that, then what would the point of staying be? Look at it from the corporate point of view: 1) Your company now knows you can be bought easily. 2) The agency did spend time on you, whether you appreciate that or not. 3) If the company you were going to work with now knows you'll go back on your word and can't be trusted. Sounds like everyone loses to me. But hopefully the corporate memories will be short enough not to hurt you in the long run. Me? I have this game I play to see how many head hunters I can get to take me to lunch before I tell them I'm not interested in finding a job. I never do it under false pretenses, but so far I've had a couple dozen lunches over the years.

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Doctor Nick

ragnaroknrol wrote:

She's currently making 65K in Iowa

Where abouts? 65K isn't much in the big city of Des Moines. :-D

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Not Active

Manique wrote:

my current employer gave me an offer I could not afford to refuse.

You should have refused. Studies have shown that people who accept counter offers from their employers are gone within six months anyway. You have already shown you have no loyalty to the company and will jump for more money, benefits, etc., it won't be forgotten. There was a reason you started looking and accepted the offer. What has changed? Will it be permanent? Also, if you were worth it (not saying you aren't) they would have paid without the threat of going elsewhere.

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Ian Shlasko

Ha... I usually don't even ask the salary... I take one look at the job description and say "You're kidding, right?"

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Media2r

As I stated in my reply below - I agree. This above all: to thine own self be true. //L

Not Active

Manique wrote:

most where knee-jerk reactions

I would disagree. Most companies, especially large ones don't take it lightly, there is a lot of paperwork and planning that goes into layoffs and terminations. Especially in a litigious society where they could be sued for the slightest hint of discrimination.

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Media2r

Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

The agency did spend time on you, whether you appreciate that or not.

For the premium they charge me when I do accept a job, I could not possibly care less. //L

Manique

I am in a very different situation to most. It is a small company and as part of the deal, I get a sizable stake in the company I work for. You do not get that in most places.

ragnaroknrol

Ames. And believe it or not, the cost of living in Chicago is roughly twice that of DesMoines. Combine it with my former (and hopefully soon higher) income and we were doing okay.

hammerstein05

When I didn't have a wife, child and mortgage, my opinion would have been that if I accepted an offer then there was nothing stopping me from going. Now I do have WCM, well, I could be tempted by more money. More money pays things off sooner after all.

Dr Walt Fair PE

If you think their premium is too high, then why do you deal with them at all? Doesn't sound very smart to me ... I only deal with agencies where the employer pays the fees.

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Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

Jim Crafton

Well they're certainly full of something...

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Bassam Saoud

Manique wrote:

Maybe, but my loyality is to my family

Your current employer gave you a raise under pressure. You told them you are leaving, they wanted you to stay so they toped the offer. Depending on the quaility of your employer, that may back fire at you when the pressure is gone. They may ask you train an associate or hire a new developer and when the pressure is gone, give you the pink slip. It is for your interst to never ever accept an exit offer.

jeron1

Spot on in my opinion.

Doctor Nick

Having gone on weekend trips to Chicago I'm fully aware of the cost to live there. I have friends who live there and when their one bedroom condo costs twice what I paid for my three bedroom house I laugh at them. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if the schools were a touch better here but then again I'm biased :-D Unlike some I feel there's plenty to do in the Des Moines area if you know where to look and if there isn't we can always go up to Ames.

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Nemanja Trifunovic

Manique wrote:

I originally said yes, but my current employer gave me an offer I could not afford to refuse.

Don't know about your particular case, but I consider that a bad idea in general. If you are leaving, leave and don't look back.

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ragnaroknrol

There is nothing in Ames. It's a black hole. :P

Russell Jones

Manique wrote:

Anyway I going to watch Pompey Vs. Tottenham on Sunday (FA Cup Semi Final), so that will take my mind of it.

As an arsenal fan with family in Southampton this is one of those games where you wish that both sides could somehow lose