Visual Studio 2010 is coming out soon. Does anyone care?
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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There are some bits-and-bobs that I've seen that would be nice (Enum.TryParse in Net4.0 for example), but there is nothing I need at the moment, so I will probably wait for SP1 before I think of converting - the Beta / RC feedback has been worse than 2008 was, so I have little faith in MS to get it right this time.
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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I'm waiting for the ribbon UI designer for MFC. Been doing some F# stuff as well, and been able to successfully implement some small, specific code in pre-production (had something to do with file processing and little data mining). For what I've heard, it doesn't differ much from the F# available for VS2008, but I guess it's worth a try. Also, I have great expectations about VS' integration with SharePoint, since nowadays developing for SharePoint is a PITA (for starters, you have to either hack your vista/7 machine or to develop on a 2003/2008 server). And finally, I've read that there is much improvement support for multiple monitors, so I'm looking forward that too. So yes, I'll be installing VS2010 next week as well... Cheers!
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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I am waiting for the new IDE as I am frustrated of using the 2008 Team suite, specially on dual monitor. We are using Team Foundation Server 2010 beta (Because its impossible to install TFS 2008 on 2 tier server... trust me :) ) and Visual Studio 2008 Team Suite, and I am tired of workarounds to make both the things working... And also .Net 4.0 has some cool new features. like optional parameters, enhanced page output caching, cleaner web.config etc...
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I'm waiting for the ribbon UI designer for MFC. Been doing some F# stuff as well, and been able to successfully implement some small, specific code in pre-production (had something to do with file processing and little data mining). For what I've heard, it doesn't differ much from the F# available for VS2008, but I guess it's worth a try. Also, I have great expectations about VS' integration with SharePoint, since nowadays developing for SharePoint is a PITA (for starters, you have to either hack your vista/7 machine or to develop on a 2003/2008 server). And finally, I've read that there is much improvement support for multiple monitors, so I'm looking forward that too. So yes, I'll be installing VS2010 next week as well... Cheers!
Actually, the one thing that does excite me is the sharepoint upgrades. However, I think I have to wait until my employer upgrades our version of sharepoint. Anything to make sharepoint programming more manageable will be good.
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I am waiting for the new IDE as I am frustrated of using the 2008 Team suite, specially on dual monitor. We are using Team Foundation Server 2010 beta (Because its impossible to install TFS 2008 on 2 tier server... trust me :) ) and Visual Studio 2008 Team Suite, and I am tired of workarounds to make both the things working... And also .Net 4.0 has some cool new features. like optional parameters, enhanced page output caching, cleaner web.config etc...
I'm going to install it and use it when it is available, I always do.
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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It's nicer than VS 2008 for C++ development. Unfortunately, Microsoft punted on so many bugs for VS 2010, I'll be giving it a pass until SP1 and wish everyone would do the same (to teach those bastards a lesson.) I think .NET got a lot of fine tuning during the VS 2010 development when Microsoft discovered just how lame .NET can be when writing non-web, non-database front end applications. How much is anyone's guess. I haven't noticed anything significant within my admittedly limited use.
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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I'll upgrade, but only really because it's free through DreamSpark for me. I wouldn't pay for it, even if I did have the money, but then again, I am only a hobbyist.
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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WCF seems a bit over designed, I liked .NET remoting far better. Plus they screwed up http web proxies in WCF, that worked perfectly fine in .NET 2.0. I'm gonna stick with C# 3.0/.NET 2.0/VS 2008 for a while!
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010?
Hell, yes. Support for C++ 0x is something I am not only looking for, but already investigating possibilities to use in production code. F# support is also very nice, but that does not seem like something I can use at work :) For C#/VB I don't really care.
What, exactly, if F#? I've seen references to it, but nothing really informative. I recall a language called Forth that had the interesting feature of being able to create your own language features and keywords, then use them for programming. Are they related?
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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I like the new parallel stuff in C# and linq (plinq). The code analysis stuff in VS also looks nice, especially for contractors like me who come in and must get up to speed quickly. The historical debugging looks rad too. I think there is more good stuff in the 2010 release than in any other single release of VS for .Net.
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What, exactly, if F#? I've seen references to it, but nothing really informative. I recall a language called Forth that had the interesting feature of being able to create your own language features and keywords, then use them for programming. Are they related?
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Are you kidding us? I guess it's rather pointless to tell you in a few lines what F# is - just use your favorite search-engine ;) I allready use F# in some productive settings and the async-workflow feature alone is worth the effort to learn it :laugh: It's no gamechanger if you are mainly in UI-programming (and here only because there are no desingers - but those *new* event-processing featrues RX gives us was avaiable in F# for a long time) but for more complex settings, parallel and async programming, quick algorithm design and testing its in my opinion THE language in the .net env.
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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Hi, for me it's the first realease I'm really looking forward to (and I allready use the RC for some productive projects) - for the last releases there was the big improvements in the .net framework and ecosystem (generics, lambdas, linq, WCF, WPF, ...) but this time I really like: - TFS2010 - for a very small team (well it's more or less just me plus 1-2 other guys that joins on some ocassions) it's just great to get a tool you can just "fire and forget" (the installation) - F# ... finally - after long years waiting it's a full member ... that alone is worth the update - there are a lot of improvements for Silverlight and MVC2 (I don't really like Webforms...) the reactive extensions and the task parallel lib. are very good (FP for the win ;) ) - after some doubts during Beta2 I really like the editor and even the speed of the IDE - the new 5.0beta Release of ReSharper even seems to run quicker then with VS2008 (yes for me it's a essential plugin - if only I could have F# support :( ) - the only thing I don't care at all is "dynamics" - I just can't seem to find the time and interest to look into it After all there is no expense for me (ok I have to deinstall/install some parts - so I have to invest some time) - but even without MSDN sub. I would run to the store the first day it's out :thumbsup:
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Are you kidding us? I guess it's rather pointless to tell you in a few lines what F# is - just use your favorite search-engine ;) I allready use F# in some productive settings and the async-workflow feature alone is worth the effort to learn it :laugh: It's no gamechanger if you are mainly in UI-programming (and here only because there are no desingers - but those *new* event-processing featrues RX gives us was avaiable in F# for a long time) but for more complex settings, parallel and async programming, quick algorithm design and testing its in my opinion THE language in the .net env.
Sounds like a very cool tool! No, I 'm not kidding - I don't program for a living anymore, and haven't for a couple of decades. But when I did, designing algorithms and state machines for real-time electronics testing was my forte. F# probably would have been a great help. Implementing Kalman filters and adaptive signal processing, FFTs and Z-transforms in HP-BASIC was no fun at all!
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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I'm very excited too, cause I won a copy in the Azure contest. ;P If you like to get more challenge - why don't you try a bit assembler?
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I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...
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