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VS 2010 - what are the shiny parts?

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    Christopher Duncan
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    I like stuff that's new and shiny just like any other geek (after all, I just upgraded to Windows 7 which is nothing but shiny). However, I've also spent a lot of money on MS upgrades over the years that really brought little new to the party. And so, I ask the more experienced among you:

    • What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?
    • Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?
    • Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

    Christopher Duncan
    www.PracticalUSA.com
    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
    Copywriting Services

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      I like stuff that's new and shiny just like any other geek (after all, I just upgraded to Windows 7 which is nothing but shiny). However, I've also spent a lot of money on MS upgrades over the years that really brought little new to the party. And so, I ask the more experienced among you:

      • What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?
      • Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?
      • Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

      Christopher Duncan
      www.PracticalUSA.com
      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
      Copywriting Services

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      Maximilien
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      Christopher Duncan wrote:

      Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?

      Take longer coffee breaks ?

      Watched code never compiles.

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        Christopher Duncan wrote:

        Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?

        Take longer coffee breaks ?

        Watched code never compiles.

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        Christopher Duncan
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        If I wanted longer coffee breaks, I would have stayed with C++. :)

        Christopher Duncan
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        • C Christopher Duncan

          I like stuff that's new and shiny just like any other geek (after all, I just upgraded to Windows 7 which is nothing but shiny). However, I've also spent a lot of money on MS upgrades over the years that really brought little new to the party. And so, I ask the more experienced among you:

          • What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?
          • Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?
          • Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

          Christopher Duncan
          www.PracticalUSA.com
          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
          Copywriting Services

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          Jeremy Falcon
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          Christopher Duncan wrote:

          What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?

          I'm sure it'll be all the great C++ enhancements. :rolleyes:

          Jeremy Falcon

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          • C Christopher Duncan

            I like stuff that's new and shiny just like any other geek (after all, I just upgraded to Windows 7 which is nothing but shiny). However, I've also spent a lot of money on MS upgrades over the years that really brought little new to the party. And so, I ask the more experienced among you:

            • What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?
            • Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?
            • Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

            Christopher Duncan
            www.PracticalUSA.com
            Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
            Copywriting Services

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            Chris Losinger
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            without it, you're not a true MS fan.

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            • C Christopher Duncan

              I like stuff that's new and shiny just like any other geek (after all, I just upgraded to Windows 7 which is nothing but shiny). However, I've also spent a lot of money on MS upgrades over the years that really brought little new to the party. And so, I ask the more experienced among you:

              • What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?
              • Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?
              • Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

              Christopher Duncan
              www.PracticalUSA.com
              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
              Copywriting Services

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              Christopher Duncan wrote:

              what are the shiny parts?"

              I suppose the surfaces of the disc, maybe the packaging.

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                I like stuff that's new and shiny just like any other geek (after all, I just upgraded to Windows 7 which is nothing but shiny). However, I've also spent a lot of money on MS upgrades over the years that really brought little new to the party. And so, I ask the more experienced among you:

                • What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?
                • Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?
                • Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

                Christopher Duncan
                www.PracticalUSA.com
                Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                Copywriting Services

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                Judah Gabriel Himango
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                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?

                Well, I can tell you why we're upgrading later this week: One thing I'm looking forward to, from an IDE and tooling perspective, is preventing bugs with Pex and tracking down bugs with IntelliTrace (aka Historical Debugging).

                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?

                Sure. Multi-monitor support, for example. This means you can have, for example, code file Foo.cs opened in one monitor, with Bar.cs opened on the other monitor. Another thing I like is Navigate To feature. In VS 2008, if I wanted to find a class or function or code file, I'd hit CTRL+F, search for a few seconds, then find the proper match in the search results. In 2010, I can hit CTRL+, and a "find as you type" tool window will find classes, functions, fields, etc, letting you navigate directly from there. It also works with PascalCasing, so typing in "SED" will find members with ShowEmailDialog in the name.

                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

                :)

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                • C Christopher Duncan

                  I like stuff that's new and shiny just like any other geek (after all, I just upgraded to Windows 7 which is nothing but shiny). However, I've also spent a lot of money on MS upgrades over the years that really brought little new to the party. And so, I ask the more experienced among you:

                  • What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?
                  • Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?
                  • Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

                  Christopher Duncan
                  www.PracticalUSA.com
                  Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                  Copywriting Services

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  tryout the express edition[^] or the trial VS2010 Ultimate edition[^] all for free. and see for yourself.

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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    I like stuff that's new and shiny just like any other geek (after all, I just upgraded to Windows 7 which is nothing but shiny). However, I've also spent a lot of money on MS upgrades over the years that really brought little new to the party. And so, I ask the more experienced among you:

                    • What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?
                    • Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?
                    • Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

                    Christopher Duncan
                    www.PracticalUSA.com
                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                    Copywriting Services

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                    Stuart Dootson
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                    For me…C++ 0x support (lambdas, baby, lambdas!) and F# (but not supported in an Express version, damnit). Aside from that? Meh - I'll stick to Qt Creator (PC) or XCode (Mac).

                    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!

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                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                      What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?

                      Well, I can tell you why we're upgrading later this week: One thing I'm looking forward to, from an IDE and tooling perspective, is preventing bugs with Pex and tracking down bugs with IntelliTrace (aka Historical Debugging).

                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                      Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?

                      Sure. Multi-monitor support, for example. This means you can have, for example, code file Foo.cs opened in one monitor, with Bar.cs opened on the other monitor. Another thing I like is Navigate To feature. In VS 2008, if I wanted to find a class or function or code file, I'd hit CTRL+F, search for a few seconds, then find the proper match in the search results. In 2010, I can hit CTRL+, and a "find as you type" tool window will find classes, functions, fields, etc, letting you navigate directly from there. It also works with PascalCasing, so typing in "SED" will find members with ShowEmailDialog in the name.

                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                      Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

                      :)

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                      Judah Himango

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                      Kevin McFarlane
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                      Judah Himango wrote:

                      In 2010, I can hit CTRL+, and a "find as you type" tool window will find classes, functions, fields, etc, letting you navigate directly from there. It also works with PascalCasing, so typing in "SED" will find members with ShowEmailDialog in the name.

                      This appears to have been copied from the refactoring tool vendors (e.g., CodeRush) but it's a good feature nevertheless. :)

                      Kevin

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                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                        What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?

                        I'm sure it'll be all the great C++ enhancements. :rolleyes:

                        Jeremy Falcon

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                        The sarcasm in that post is too much :~

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                        • K Kevin McFarlane

                          Judah Himango wrote:

                          In 2010, I can hit CTRL+, and a "find as you type" tool window will find classes, functions, fields, etc, letting you navigate directly from there. It also works with PascalCasing, so typing in "SED" will find members with ShowEmailDialog in the name.

                          This appears to have been copied from the refactoring tool vendors (e.g., CodeRush) but it's a good feature nevertheless. :)

                          Kevin

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                          Judah Gabriel Himango
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                          Yeah, like I mentioned, 3rd party commercial tools like Resharper has long had a "find member" kind of feature. Of course, Resharper and CodeRush add considerable overhead to the already-bloated IDE. Nice to just have it baked-in, ya know? :-)

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                          • C Christopher Duncan

                            I like stuff that's new and shiny just like any other geek (after all, I just upgraded to Windows 7 which is nothing but shiny). However, I've also spent a lot of money on MS upgrades over the years that really brought little new to the party. And so, I ask the more experienced among you:

                            • What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?
                            • Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?
                            • Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

                            Christopher Duncan
                            www.PracticalUSA.com
                            Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                            Copywriting Services

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                            Jim Crafton
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                            I find it a little ironic (and possibly amusing) that the first component on it's list to download/install is the "Microsoft Application Error Reporting" component, whatever that is. :)

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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              what are the shiny parts?"

                              I suppose the surfaces of the disc, maybe the packaging.

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                              Steve Mayfield
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                              surfaces of the disc just the underside of the disc(s) ;) (there are also really tiny holes)

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                                For me…C++ 0x support (lambdas, baby, lambdas!) and F# (but not supported in an Express version, damnit). Aside from that? Meh - I'll stick to Qt Creator (PC) or XCode (Mac).

                                Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!

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                                NormDroid
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                                F# is a must, this year new language to learn.

                                Two heads are better than one.

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                                  F# is a must, this year new language to learn.

                                  Two heads are better than one.

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                                  Stuart Dootson
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                                  If .NET doesn't bother you too much, I'd say look at Haskell instead - it's a lot cooler, IMO...

                                  Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!

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                                    F# is a must, this year new language to learn.

                                    Two heads are better than one.

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                                    Ian Shlasko
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                                    Eh, I played around with F# last year (It's been around for a while - Just not officially part of Visual Studio until now)... Wasn't impressed. But then, I'm not a big fan of functional languages... I tend to think in terms of state machines.

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                                    • C Christopher Duncan

                                      I like stuff that's new and shiny just like any other geek (after all, I just upgraded to Windows 7 which is nothing but shiny). However, I've also spent a lot of money on MS upgrades over the years that really brought little new to the party. And so, I ask the more experienced among you:

                                      • What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?
                                      • Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?
                                      • Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

                                      Christopher Duncan
                                      www.PracticalUSA.com
                                      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                      Copywriting Services

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                                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                      What's New in VS 2010[^]

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                                        I like stuff that's new and shiny just like any other geek (after all, I just upgraded to Windows 7 which is nothing but shiny). However, I've also spent a lot of money on MS upgrades over the years that really brought little new to the party. And so, I ask the more experienced among you:

                                        • What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?
                                        • Can I do things with it that I can't do in VS 2008?
                                        • Does it come in a hyper intelligent shade of the color blue?

                                        Christopher Duncan
                                        www.PracticalUSA.com
                                        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                        Copywriting Services

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                                        hairy_hats
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                                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                        What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?

                                        It'll force your boss to buy you that 64-core Xeon with the 16-SSD RAID if he wants your "Hello World!" program to compile before the heat death of the universe.

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                                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                          What makes purchasing VS 2010 worthwhile?

                                          It'll force your boss to buy you that 64-core Xeon with the 16-SSD RAID if he wants your "Hello World!" program to compile before the heat death of the universe.

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                                          quite right.. my amd 2600 is really taking a beating now..and wpf? forget about it.. ;o)

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