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VS 2010 - what are the shiny parts?

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  • R RugbyLeague

    The WPF and Silverlight designers are much better - but I rather like typing xaml so I am not sure how much use I will get from them.

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    If you prefer editing the XAML you'll really enjoy the better editing story with IntelliSense improvements. Cheers, -jc

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      If you prefer editing the XAML you'll really enjoy the better editing story with IntelliSense improvements. Cheers, -jc

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      RugbyLeague
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      I hope so - the intellisense in the VS2008 XAML editor often freezes - typing in "

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      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

        Try it and see for yourself. With 3rd party add-ins, you'll end up running into OoME. I believe some of the 3rd party add-ins even have workarounds for this. When it's baked in, there's no overhead for the add-in. Less bloat. And I don't have to buy a 3rd party add-in to boot.

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        Judah Himango wrote:

        When it's baked in, there's no overhead for the add-in. Less bloat.

        Boy, talk about subtle sarcasm. ;)

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          Judah Himango wrote:

          When it's baked in, there's no overhead for the add-in. Less bloat.

          Boy, talk about subtle sarcasm. ;)

          Gary

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          Judah Gabriel Himango
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          Nope. Try it yourself: VS without Resharper and with. See what kind of performance and memory usage you get.

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          • J Judah Gabriel Himango

            Nope. Try it yourself: VS without Resharper and with. See what kind of performance and memory usage you get.

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            The sarcasim was ANY Microsoft software without Overhead. I don't think it exists - anywhere. It is always bloated. :) And slow....

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            • J Jim Crafton

              I find it a little ironic (and possibly amusing) that the first component on it's list to download/install is the "Microsoft Application Error Reporting" component, whatever that is. :)

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              Ah, they should have build it in, so there would be less bloat and faster execution speed. :laugh: Us finding and reporting bugs in their software is always useful - to them. Makes me want to get it immediately. :)

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              • C Christopher Duncan

                If I wanted longer coffee breaks, I would have stayed with C++. :)

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                Cyrilix
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                Haha, so true. C++ has a terrible and outdated compilation model, that is plagued by poor (see: none) dependency analysis, but of course the hardcore C++ guys don't want to admit it, which is probably why you got rated down.

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                  The sarcasim was ANY Microsoft software without Overhead. I don't think it exists - anywhere. It is always bloated. :) And slow....

                  Gary

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                  Judah Gabriel Himango
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                  Yeah, but I didn't say "zero overhead". Nobody writes software with zero overhead. Instead, I said, "less overhead than loading a large 3rd party add-in".

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                  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                    Yeah, but I didn't say "zero overhead". Nobody writes software with zero overhead. Instead, I said, "less overhead than loading a large 3rd party add-in".

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                    Yes, but the "large 3rd party add-in" would be smaller and faster than the MS built-in feature. It's all relative.

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                      Yes, but the "large 3rd party add-in" would be smaller and faster than the MS built-in feature. It's all relative.

                      Gary

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                      No, it isn't. Try using Resharpher on a large solution. Now try with VS2010. See it for yourself.

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                      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                        No, it isn't. Try using Resharpher on a large solution. Now try with VS2010. See it for yourself.

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                        Judah Himango wrote:

                        No, it isn't. Try using Resharpher on a large solution. Now try with VS2010. See it for yourself.

                        Judah Himango wrote:

                        Try it and see for yourself. With 3rd party add-ins, you'll end up running into OoME. I believe some of the 3rd party add-ins even have workarounds for this. When it's baked in, there's no overhead for the add-in. Less bloat. And I don't have to buy a 3rd party add-in to boot.

                        Okay Judah, I'll give you one bad add-in for one bloated application is possibly worse than MS build-in code. You made a generic statement about 3rd party apps, which is still wrong. But, from the resharper site: How ReSharper Helps Visual Studio Users Continuous code quality analysis in C#, XAML, XML, ASP.NET, and ASP.NET MVC. I don't program in those apps, so I have no need for resharper, I guess. Over and out.

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