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  • 1 1 21 Gigawatts

    Yeah man, I feel for these guys! 3 weeks offshore is a long time, but then to be told the heli's are cancelled?!? If I were the volcano I'd be watching my back now ;)

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    I didn't realise the ash was low enough to affect heli flights. Bummer :(

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      So the UK airspace is still a no go. The news is filled with nothing but people who are stuck in airports / hotels / cities other than their home towns....places where there is generally alcohol and somewhere to walk about, things to do. What about the thousands of people who work on the oil platforms/rigs in the North Sea? What about the guys who have been on these platforms for over 3 weeks now? and no sign of getting home yet? Those are the people I Feel sorry for! I have a few on my platform, and you can see depression and frustration creeping in. If this goes on much longer, it could turn nasty! The wind needs to turn, so its coming from the south east to blow the plume back towards Iceland and the North. Downside is SE winds usually result in FOG and no flying offshore! Think we're stuffed :( So for those of you at home with alcohol to hand, have a drink for the offshore guys! please! Hopefully it will all be sorted before I am due home next thurdsay..........

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      Isn't there a possibility to get off the rig by boat? Would it take longer to get the boat to your rig than to wait out the ashstorm and get a helicopter? And a personal question I have: what is a programmer doing on a rig in the middle of the sea if you have internet access? Make the app from home and send it to the guys.

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        We thought the same, but basically if the airspace is closed to non-emergency traffic, then you have got to go with that. I also guess that there is risk if the helicopters passed through rain showers, and the rain had ash particles, then it would be game over.

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        Well they don't have much of a glide angle so best be careful.

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          Isn't there a possibility to get off the rig by boat? Would it take longer to get the boat to your rig than to wait out the ashstorm and get a helicopter? And a personal question I have: what is a programmer doing on a rig in the middle of the sea if you have internet access? Make the app from home and send it to the guys.

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          KenBonny wrote:

          Isn't there a possibility to get off the rig by boat

          I dare say that if this was to go on for a week or so then yes, this would have to be looked at, however there are other risks associated with that, i.e. you would have to be lifted to the boat by crane, and the cranes are not certified for man riding.

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          And a personal question I have: what is a programmer doing on a rig in the middle of the sea if you have internet access? Make the app from home and send it to the guys.

          Well, programming is not my job, it is more an interest. My job is the boss of the platform (see my profile), and the one that has to deal with all the headaches that come out of events like this!

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            KenBonny wrote:

            Isn't there a possibility to get off the rig by boat

            I dare say that if this was to go on for a week or so then yes, this would have to be looked at, however there are other risks associated with that, i.e. you would have to be lifted to the boat by crane, and the cranes are not certified for man riding.

            KenBonny wrote:

            And a personal question I have: what is a programmer doing on a rig in the middle of the sea if you have internet access? Make the app from home and send it to the guys.

            Well, programming is not my job, it is more an interest. My job is the boss of the platform (see my profile), and the one that has to deal with all the headaches that come out of events like this!

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            daveauld wrote:

            My job is the boss of the platform

            Aah, all the joys of management. :) Hope you can keep those ruffians in control.

            daveauld wrote:

            certified for man riding

            I'll pretend I got that in the way you meant. :D

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              So the UK airspace is still a no go. The news is filled with nothing but people who are stuck in airports / hotels / cities other than their home towns....places where there is generally alcohol and somewhere to walk about, things to do. What about the thousands of people who work on the oil platforms/rigs in the North Sea? What about the guys who have been on these platforms for over 3 weeks now? and no sign of getting home yet? Those are the people I Feel sorry for! I have a few on my platform, and you can see depression and frustration creeping in. If this goes on much longer, it could turn nasty! The wind needs to turn, so its coming from the south east to blow the plume back towards Iceland and the North. Downside is SE winds usually result in FOG and no flying offshore! Think we're stuffed :( So for those of you at home with alcohol to hand, have a drink for the offshore guys! please! Hopefully it will all be sorted before I am due home next thurdsay..........

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              In related news, the strikes against British Airways have been having a massive impact < /sarcasm> It must really annoy union bosses that their meticulously co-ordinated strike has been squashed flat by a single volcano.

              OSDev :)

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                So the UK airspace is still a no go. The news is filled with nothing but people who are stuck in airports / hotels / cities other than their home towns....places where there is generally alcohol and somewhere to walk about, things to do. What about the thousands of people who work on the oil platforms/rigs in the North Sea? What about the guys who have been on these platforms for over 3 weeks now? and no sign of getting home yet? Those are the people I Feel sorry for! I have a few on my platform, and you can see depression and frustration creeping in. If this goes on much longer, it could turn nasty! The wind needs to turn, so its coming from the south east to blow the plume back towards Iceland and the North. Downside is SE winds usually result in FOG and no flying offshore! Think we're stuffed :( So for those of you at home with alcohol to hand, have a drink for the offshore guys! please! Hopefully it will all be sorted before I am due home next thurdsay..........

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                flying machines have the problem, what about floating machines:confused:

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                  flying machines have the problem, what about floating machines:confused:

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                  sriharsha_12 wrote:

                  what about floating machines

                  Can't get down onto the floating machines, the cranes on the platform are not certified for carrying personnel. You could only do this in an emergency.

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                    So the UK airspace is still a no go. The news is filled with nothing but people who are stuck in airports / hotels / cities other than their home towns....places where there is generally alcohol and somewhere to walk about, things to do. What about the thousands of people who work on the oil platforms/rigs in the North Sea? What about the guys who have been on these platforms for over 3 weeks now? and no sign of getting home yet? Those are the people I Feel sorry for! I have a few on my platform, and you can see depression and frustration creeping in. If this goes on much longer, it could turn nasty! The wind needs to turn, so its coming from the south east to blow the plume back towards Iceland and the North. Downside is SE winds usually result in FOG and no flying offshore! Think we're stuffed :( So for those of you at home with alcohol to hand, have a drink for the offshore guys! please! Hopefully it will all be sorted before I am due home next thurdsay..........

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                    daveauld wrote:

                    What about the guys who have been on these platforms for over 3 weeks now? and no sign of getting home yet? Those are the people I Feel sorry for! I have a few on my platform, and you can see depression and frustration creeping in. If this goes on much longer, it could turn nasty!

                    If it lasts long enough the people who're supposed to replace them might be in a bigger mess of suckage. Stuck on shore means not working; and, I assume, not getting paid.

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                      Well they don't have much of a glide angle so best be careful.

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                      A helicopter's glide angle is essentially 90. On engine out, presuming the blades aren't terribly damaged, it could autorotate into the north sea with perhaps a decent of 1k+ ft/m. If the blades seize or are damaged then you're flying in a rock, your decent is then governed by gravity, altitude and terminal velocity.

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                        KenBonny wrote:

                        Isn't there a possibility to get off the rig by boat

                        I dare say that if this was to go on for a week or so then yes, this would have to be looked at, however there are other risks associated with that, i.e. you would have to be lifted to the boat by crane, and the cranes are not certified for man riding.

                        KenBonny wrote:

                        And a personal question I have: what is a programmer doing on a rig in the middle of the sea if you have internet access? Make the app from home and send it to the guys.

                        Well, programming is not my job, it is more an interest. My job is the boss of the platform (see my profile), and the one that has to deal with all the headaches that come out of events like this!

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                        daveauld wrote:

                        My job is the boss of the platform (see my profile), and the one that has to deal with all the headaches that come out of events like this!

                        So what you're saying is, should this carry on for more than a week, you'll be the one tossed in the north sea?

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                          So the UK airspace is still a no go. The news is filled with nothing but people who are stuck in airports / hotels / cities other than their home towns....places where there is generally alcohol and somewhere to walk about, things to do. What about the thousands of people who work on the oil platforms/rigs in the North Sea? What about the guys who have been on these platforms for over 3 weeks now? and no sign of getting home yet? Those are the people I Feel sorry for! I have a few on my platform, and you can see depression and frustration creeping in. If this goes on much longer, it could turn nasty! The wind needs to turn, so its coming from the south east to blow the plume back towards Iceland and the North. Downside is SE winds usually result in FOG and no flying offshore! Think we're stuffed :( So for those of you at home with alcohol to hand, have a drink for the offshore guys! please! Hopefully it will all be sorted before I am due home next thurdsay..........

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                          Good luck to you, I'm counting my blessings. Spent 3 weeks back home and flew back across the pond on Monday. Had thought of taking longer but decided against taking unpaid leave since I've got number 3 on the way and a new house to build. Rather glad I did.

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                            daveauld wrote:

                            What about the guys who have been on these platforms for over 3 weeks now? and no sign of getting home yet? Those are the people I Feel sorry for! I have a few on my platform, and you can see depression and frustration creeping in. If this goes on much longer, it could turn nasty!

                            If it lasts long enough the people who're supposed to replace them might be in a bigger mess of suckage. Stuck on shore means not working; and, I assume, not getting paid.

                            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                            No, they still get paid to be sat on their @rse, i dare say the pubs in Aberdeen are having some of the best sales so far this year! The hotels will also be full. Its bad enough when a couple of the fields are closed in by fog, but this is the whole north sea trying to operate. There is probably in excess of 50 helicopter flights a day from Aberdeen out to the rigs, so that is a lot of people backing up onshore, and alot of unhappy people offshore wanting home. We already have 7 flights backed up to the field alone, and we are just 1 field of 5 platforms. here are just some of them; [This is one of the platforms in the field] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXzQnrQacO0[^]

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                              daveauld wrote:

                              My job is the boss of the platform (see my profile), and the one that has to deal with all the headaches that come out of events like this!

                              So what you're saying is, should this carry on for more than a week, you'll be the one tossed in the north sea?

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                              I'm sure there are probably some that would want to do that anyway..... :laugh:

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