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  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

    From what I read from the news earlier, the current Pope had covered up on molestations committed prior to his papacy whilst a Bishop, this (Clickety[^]) to me sounds a bit like hypocrisy, but then I'm quite the cynic.

    If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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    Christian Graus
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    I suspect the RCC has as a core problem, the fact that they do all sorts of things that are not in the Bible, in this case, a chaste clergy. I'm not saying that chastity leads to child molestation ( I don't believe I'd act that way under those circumstances ), but you have to think it's a factor. The next thing is simply that child molestors must, to do what they want to do, work themselves into positions of trust with kids. I don't think the RCC, for all it's failings, does not care about these things happening, they turned a blind eye in an age where people in general would do that if, for example, a man beat his wife, or whatever. They probably regret it now, but really have no idea how to deal with the problem without being bankrupted by legal proceedings against them.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      I suspect the RCC has as a core problem, the fact that they do all sorts of things that are not in the Bible, in this case, a chaste clergy. I'm not saying that chastity leads to child molestation ( I don't believe I'd act that way under those circumstances ), but you have to think it's a factor. The next thing is simply that child molestors must, to do what they want to do, work themselves into positions of trust with kids. I don't think the RCC, for all it's failings, does not care about these things happening, they turned a blind eye in an age where people in general would do that if, for example, a man beat his wife, or whatever. They probably regret it now, but really have no idea how to deal with the problem without being bankrupted by legal proceedings against them.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      I'm not saying that chastity leads to child molestation ( I don't believe I'd act that way under those circumstances )

      It is extremely suspicious that you would add that you "don't believe" you would rape young boys under those circumstances.

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        I'm not saying that chastity leads to child molestation ( I don't believe I'd act that way under those circumstances )

        It is extremely suspicious that you would add that you "don't believe" you would rape young boys under those circumstances.

        Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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        RichardM1
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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        It is extremely suspicious that you would add that you "don't believe" you would rape young boys under those circumstances.

        Do you believe you would do it? Have you ever actually been in that situation? If you haven't, you don't know, you believe. I'm not ragging on you. Unless you've been there and made the choice, you don't know. I like to believe I would handle myself OK in combat, but I don't know, because I have not been in combat. And I hope I never am.

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          Christian Graus wrote:

          I'm not saying that chastity leads to child molestation ( I don't believe I'd act that way under those circumstances )

          It is extremely suspicious that you would add that you "don't believe" you would rape young boys under those circumstances.

          Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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          Christian Graus
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          I am honest enough to state that I don't know for sure what I'd do until I was in those circumstances. That doesn't mean I think it would be remotely likely, or that I don't find the idea abhorent. It just means that it is possible that people who have to remain chaste against their natures, may well find that they are drawn to whatever they can get. I mean, does a farm boy really prefer a pig to a woman ? Do men in prison become gay, or make do with what they can get ? It all seems gross to me, but I know that I can't say for sure how that situation affects people, as I've not been in it.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

            From what I read from the news earlier, the current Pope had covered up on molestations committed prior to his papacy whilst a Bishop, this (Clickety[^]) to me sounds a bit like hypocrisy, but then I'm quite the cynic.

            If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

            sounds a bit like hypocrisy, but then I'm quite the cynic

            You're not alone. The WebPage said "The Pope had tears in his eyes ". Are these tears Crocodile Tears?

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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

              sounds a bit like hypocrisy, but then I'm quite the cynic

              You're not alone. The WebPage said "The Pope had tears in his eyes ". Are these tears Crocodile Tears?

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              Dalek Dave
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              I'm sure most of the children had tears in their eyes too.

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              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                From what I read from the news earlier, the current Pope had covered up on molestations committed prior to his papacy whilst a Bishop, this (Clickety[^]) to me sounds a bit like hypocrisy, but then I'm quite the cynic.

                If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                Lost User
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                At a minimum, let's just say there's a bit of a credibility problem there. X|

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                  I'm sure most of the children had tears in their eyes too.

                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                  And no doubt they were real tears and not the Pope's false (fake?) tears.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    I suspect the RCC has as a core problem, the fact that they do all sorts of things that are not in the Bible, in this case, a chaste clergy. I'm not saying that chastity leads to child molestation ( I don't believe I'd act that way under those circumstances ), but you have to think it's a factor. The next thing is simply that child molestors must, to do what they want to do, work themselves into positions of trust with kids. I don't think the RCC, for all it's failings, does not care about these things happening, they turned a blind eye in an age where people in general would do that if, for example, a man beat his wife, or whatever. They probably regret it now, but really have no idea how to deal with the problem without being bankrupted by legal proceedings against them.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    There is hypocracy here. The church says "Homosexuality is unnatural" then advocates celibacy for its clerics?

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                      There is hypocracy here. The church says "Homosexuality is unnatural" then advocates celibacy for its clerics?

                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                      Christian Graus
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                      I'm not sure how that is hypocritical ? Because celibacy is unnatural ? I can kind of see that, but it's not blatantly so.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        I'm not sure how that is hypocritical ? Because celibacy is unnatural ? I can kind of see that, but it's not blatantly so.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        Dalek Dave
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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        Because celibacy is unnatural ?

                        Why the question marks? Of course celibacy is unnatural, it is the whole purpose of live to reproduce, it is what life is all about.

                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          Because celibacy is unnatural ?

                          Why the question marks? Of course celibacy is unnatural, it is the whole purpose of live to reproduce, it is what life is all about.

                          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                          RichardM1
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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          Why the question marks?

                          Because the answer was not obvious?

                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          Of course celibacy is unnatural, it is the whole purpose of live to reproduce, it is what life is all about.

                          That is a thought on it. Others think that human life has a different purpose, to bring glory to God. The HRCC would probably like to believe that the recruits it gets for priests have a higher percent of those.

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            Because celibacy is unnatural ?

                            Why the question marks? Of course celibacy is unnatural, it is the whole purpose of live to reproduce, it is what life is all about.

                            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            it is what life is all about

                            You've shattered my whole existence you horrid man[1]! I thought life was all about gin and tonic. What shall I do now? [1] In case Sock Cooker thinks I'm siding with him: No, I still think you are have the brains of a welk[2], the comment was made in jest. This is a form of humour we use amoungst friends; but you wouldn't know that. [2] A really stupid welk, the type that spends all day looking for pins.


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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              Because celibacy is unnatural ?

                              Why the question marks? Of course celibacy is unnatural, it is the whole purpose of live to reproduce, it is what life is all about.

                              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                              Christian Graus
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                              Because it's not really hypocritical in the most obvious sense. I had to think about what you were saying.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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