At last, a brilliant idea and easy to implement
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Wjousts wrote:
Irony is more delicious
absolutely. especially when it's tongue-in-cheek.
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I can see it is a good idea in theory but will it change anything? If parents can't be bothered to cook for their children and want to bring them up on fast food then what will that change? As a child I would have loved to go to McDonalds all the time, a happy meal was quite tasty, I would get a nice shake with it and a toy to play with afterwards :omg: . There is a reason I wasn't an obese child though, and that is that my parents didn't mind saying no to me, they would cook me nutritious meals instead. On the rare occasion I would have a happy meal, it was a treat. I see far to many parents around these days that just give the child what they want when they ask for it and can't say no to them, that's what really needs to change. Just my 2p.
- Rob
I agree in theory. Sometimes "poor" (and I mean that in all senses of the word) parents have to make that difficult choice between feeding their kids well and that big-screen HDTV or Pink Cadillac or watching that reality show and spending the time it takes to cook a real meal. Wow, personal responsibility and personal choice. Whoever thunk? My kids, on their own hate McDonalds and would never choose to go there.
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My kid won't eat the food; he only likes the play area.
What's he eat in the play area? ;P
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My kid won't eat the food; he only likes the play area.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
My kid won't eat the food
There's "food" at McDonalds? :confused:
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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That was the Burger, not the shake.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
That was the Burger, not the shake.
Oh! I'd always heard it was the shake. :) Marc
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I'm not sure what kind of toys are included, I don't tend to go for happy meals. I miss the supersize megamac meals though and wish they'd bring those back - as it is I've got to get an extra big mac with my large big mac meal.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
My kid won't eat the food
There's "food" at McDonalds? :confused:
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
You bet. Yummy yummy food that slides right down my throat on a built-in coating of grease the way nature intended. :cool:
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peterchen wrote:
Making choices is hard - and with food, it is not a "once" choice, but this choice has to be made repeatedly, day by day, again and again.
I disagree, it's not that hard, there are thousands of inexpensive cookbooks with a seemingly infinte amount healthy alternatives. Generations before us seemed to have made these same choices every day.
peterchen wrote:
I wonder if you ever walked down the street with two kids, one permanently angry because it's growing a new tooth, the other obsessed with that shiny beautiful McDonalds logo, screaming his heart out because you said "no".
I have (well with one kid anyway), and saying no on occasion is a reality and a responsibilty. Yeah, my kid screamed until he was hoarse and boy was I getting the looks from everyone. However, he is my (and my wifes) responsibilty, one which we take very seriously. At this point he is seven, and if given the choice between brocolli and pizza, my kid will choose always choose the healthy alternate (it's actually a little scary). Why? because those are the kinds of things my wife and I gave him for the first years of his life, and no, making those choices was not that difficult.
jeron1 wrote:
Generations before us seemed to have made these same choices every day.
Generations before us HAD to make their own food. Twinkies may exist forever, but they haven't existed forever. And societies and responsibilities change... given the choice of leaving work early against the boss's wishes to leave early and make dinner and buying some pre-made meal while not rocking the boat, people may make the easier choice.
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jeron1 wrote:
Generations before us seemed to have made these same choices every day.
Generations before us HAD to make their own food. Twinkies may exist forever, but they haven't existed forever. And societies and responsibilities change... given the choice of leaving work early against the boss's wishes to leave early and make dinner and buying some pre-made meal while not rocking the boat, people may make the easier choice.
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As a child growing up in Pimlico, we would go to a Wimpy on a friday night, and I would get a knickerbocker glory. Ah the joys of childhood!
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Do you mean to say you never sampled the ludicrously named 'Bender Meal'? :-D
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The upside of their food: i'm a vegetarian and i can eat everything they serve at Mc Donalds, cause i'm pretty sure none of their meals contains any meat
Yeah, but you are not sure where it grew and what stuff was sprayed on them while growing, not mentioning GMO's.
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
I wish it where "California county bans McDonald's Happy Meal toys
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Fight Big Government
Hmmm. God forbid people should make thier own choices.
jeron1 wrote:
Hmmm. God forbid people should make thier own choices.
Since when God wants people to make their own choices (unless I did not correctly understand the above sentence, English is not my first language).
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Care to provide a more diverse, more numerous, and less anecdotal sample? ;P
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F**'ing A, couldn't agree more. I'm glad to say I've never been to McD's in my life (they weren't omnipresent when I grew up, and since I've been aware of them I've courted their company to a similar degree as the plague. My 6 year old, though, tried by resistance (and patience) to the limit when they had a range of Star Wars toys last year though. The irony of it - being punted this rubbish by the evil empire itself.
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Care to provide a more diverse, more numerous, and less anecdotal sample? ;P
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peterchen wrote:
Making choices is hard - and with food, it is not a "once" choice, but this choice has to be made repeatedly, day by day, again and again.
I disagree, it's not that hard, there are thousands of inexpensive cookbooks with a seemingly infinte amount healthy alternatives. Generations before us seemed to have made these same choices every day.
peterchen wrote:
I wonder if you ever walked down the street with two kids, one permanently angry because it's growing a new tooth, the other obsessed with that shiny beautiful McDonalds logo, screaming his heart out because you said "no".
I have (well with one kid anyway), and saying no on occasion is a reality and a responsibilty. Yeah, my kid screamed until he was hoarse and boy was I getting the looks from everyone. However, he is my (and my wifes) responsibilty, one which we take very seriously. At this point he is seven, and if given the choice between brocolli and pizza, my kid will choose always choose the healthy alternate (it's actually a little scary). Why? because those are the kinds of things my wife and I gave him for the first years of his life, and no, making those choices was not that difficult.
jeron1 wrote:
there are thousands of inexpensive cookbooks with a seemingly infinte amount healthy alternatives.
Apparently, you didn't even understand what I wrote. Ah well, lucky you.
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Do they need to be available most of the day? Assuming the kids are old enough to be at school, they would have some kind of meal at lunch time and then the parents would only need to prepare a meal for the evening instead of popping out to grab a McDonalds. :)
- Rob
I don't say parents have no responsibility. I just disagree with "It's easy, whatever life flings at you".
merridus wrote:
Assuming the kids are old enough to be at school
Depends on the school, the other pupils and the lunch they serve? I know parents - parents that I'd call amazing as an outsider - where it just doesn't work for one of their childs. Put a serious damper on my "good parenting can solve that" belief.
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peterchen wrote:
There is a nice experiment: Ask the people in two groups to remember a number, walk down the hallway, and present the number there. On the way, they pass a tabel where they can choose between (IIRC) a salad and cake - at least, somethign that's considered healthy, and something that's considered not. The only difference: Members of Group A have to remeber a 2 digit number. Members of group B a 7 digit number. In group B, significantly more people chose the cake.
As an alternate explanation I'd propose that eating a chunk of cake requires significantly less effort than fruit salad and would be curious if the results changed if it was an ice cream sunday vs an apple.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
Ask your local uni's psychology department to run a test :) There are other studies that suggest mental load as the most simple explanation - yet this doesn't rule out other explanations. What I love about this particular experiment that it's so simple - almost deceptively so.
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Compared to the crap my mom used to cook when I was growing up, McDonald's would have been a vast improvement. This isn't going to change anything; it's nothing more than a way for politicians to feel self-righteous.
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McDonalds is actually a regular spot for me and my 3 year old to visit. They have: - Free Wireless internet - a playground for the kids - air conditioning It's pretty much the cheapest way to get a 30 minute respite from the kids. And before you all go and get all tar-and-feathery, it's not so bad. I don't know what it's like in the UK and US, but here in my lil' ol regional town in australia, they have: - Heart foundation approved meals - kids happy meals comprised of - actual chicken nuggets (not MRM), - chopped up apple - water - chicken wrap Sure, some of it is way too salty, but man, they are quite close to one of the healthier take away places around, and the second healthiest option that has kids slids and air conditioning. Life wouldn't end if Mcdonalds disappeared, but the Martin family sure would miss it.