At last, a brilliant idea and easy to implement
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My kid won't eat the food; he only likes the play area.
What's he eat in the play area? ;P
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My kid won't eat the food; he only likes the play area.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
My kid won't eat the food
There's "food" at McDonalds? :confused:
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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That was the Burger, not the shake.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
That was the Burger, not the shake.
Oh! I'd always heard it was the shake. :) Marc
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I'm not sure what kind of toys are included, I don't tend to go for happy meals. I miss the supersize megamac meals though and wish they'd bring those back - as it is I've got to get an extra big mac with my large big mac meal.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
My kid won't eat the food
There's "food" at McDonalds? :confused:
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
You bet. Yummy yummy food that slides right down my throat on a built-in coating of grease the way nature intended. :cool:
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peterchen wrote:
Making choices is hard - and with food, it is not a "once" choice, but this choice has to be made repeatedly, day by day, again and again.
I disagree, it's not that hard, there are thousands of inexpensive cookbooks with a seemingly infinte amount healthy alternatives. Generations before us seemed to have made these same choices every day.
peterchen wrote:
I wonder if you ever walked down the street with two kids, one permanently angry because it's growing a new tooth, the other obsessed with that shiny beautiful McDonalds logo, screaming his heart out because you said "no".
I have (well with one kid anyway), and saying no on occasion is a reality and a responsibilty. Yeah, my kid screamed until he was hoarse and boy was I getting the looks from everyone. However, he is my (and my wifes) responsibilty, one which we take very seriously. At this point he is seven, and if given the choice between brocolli and pizza, my kid will choose always choose the healthy alternate (it's actually a little scary). Why? because those are the kinds of things my wife and I gave him for the first years of his life, and no, making those choices was not that difficult.
jeron1 wrote:
Generations before us seemed to have made these same choices every day.
Generations before us HAD to make their own food. Twinkies may exist forever, but they haven't existed forever. And societies and responsibilities change... given the choice of leaving work early against the boss's wishes to leave early and make dinner and buying some pre-made meal while not rocking the boat, people may make the easier choice.
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jeron1 wrote:
Generations before us seemed to have made these same choices every day.
Generations before us HAD to make their own food. Twinkies may exist forever, but they haven't existed forever. And societies and responsibilities change... given the choice of leaving work early against the boss's wishes to leave early and make dinner and buying some pre-made meal while not rocking the boat, people may make the easier choice.
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As a child growing up in Pimlico, we would go to a Wimpy on a friday night, and I would get a knickerbocker glory. Ah the joys of childhood!
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Do you mean to say you never sampled the ludicrously named 'Bender Meal'? :-D
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The upside of their food: i'm a vegetarian and i can eat everything they serve at Mc Donalds, cause i'm pretty sure none of their meals contains any meat
Yeah, but you are not sure where it grew and what stuff was sprayed on them while growing, not mentioning GMO's.
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
I wish it where "California county bans McDonald's Happy Meal toys
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Fight Big Government
Hmmm. God forbid people should make thier own choices.
jeron1 wrote:
Hmmm. God forbid people should make thier own choices.
Since when God wants people to make their own choices (unless I did not correctly understand the above sentence, English is not my first language).
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Care to provide a more diverse, more numerous, and less anecdotal sample? ;P
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F**'ing A, couldn't agree more. I'm glad to say I've never been to McD's in my life (they weren't omnipresent when I grew up, and since I've been aware of them I've courted their company to a similar degree as the plague. My 6 year old, though, tried by resistance (and patience) to the limit when they had a range of Star Wars toys last year though. The irony of it - being punted this rubbish by the evil empire itself.
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Care to provide a more diverse, more numerous, and less anecdotal sample? ;P
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peterchen wrote:
Making choices is hard - and with food, it is not a "once" choice, but this choice has to be made repeatedly, day by day, again and again.
I disagree, it's not that hard, there are thousands of inexpensive cookbooks with a seemingly infinte amount healthy alternatives. Generations before us seemed to have made these same choices every day.
peterchen wrote:
I wonder if you ever walked down the street with two kids, one permanently angry because it's growing a new tooth, the other obsessed with that shiny beautiful McDonalds logo, screaming his heart out because you said "no".
I have (well with one kid anyway), and saying no on occasion is a reality and a responsibilty. Yeah, my kid screamed until he was hoarse and boy was I getting the looks from everyone. However, he is my (and my wifes) responsibilty, one which we take very seriously. At this point he is seven, and if given the choice between brocolli and pizza, my kid will choose always choose the healthy alternate (it's actually a little scary). Why? because those are the kinds of things my wife and I gave him for the first years of his life, and no, making those choices was not that difficult.
jeron1 wrote:
there are thousands of inexpensive cookbooks with a seemingly infinte amount healthy alternatives.
Apparently, you didn't even understand what I wrote. Ah well, lucky you.
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Do they need to be available most of the day? Assuming the kids are old enough to be at school, they would have some kind of meal at lunch time and then the parents would only need to prepare a meal for the evening instead of popping out to grab a McDonalds. :)
- Rob
I don't say parents have no responsibility. I just disagree with "It's easy, whatever life flings at you".
merridus wrote:
Assuming the kids are old enough to be at school
Depends on the school, the other pupils and the lunch they serve? I know parents - parents that I'd call amazing as an outsider - where it just doesn't work for one of their childs. Put a serious damper on my "good parenting can solve that" belief.
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peterchen wrote:
There is a nice experiment: Ask the people in two groups to remember a number, walk down the hallway, and present the number there. On the way, they pass a tabel where they can choose between (IIRC) a salad and cake - at least, somethign that's considered healthy, and something that's considered not. The only difference: Members of Group A have to remeber a 2 digit number. Members of group B a 7 digit number. In group B, significantly more people chose the cake.
As an alternate explanation I'd propose that eating a chunk of cake requires significantly less effort than fruit salad and would be curious if the results changed if it was an ice cream sunday vs an apple.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
Ask your local uni's psychology department to run a test :) There are other studies that suggest mental load as the most simple explanation - yet this doesn't rule out other explanations. What I love about this particular experiment that it's so simple - almost deceptively so.
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Compared to the crap my mom used to cook when I was growing up, McDonald's would have been a vast improvement. This isn't going to change anything; it's nothing more than a way for politicians to feel self-righteous.
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McDonalds is actually a regular spot for me and my 3 year old to visit. They have: - Free Wireless internet - a playground for the kids - air conditioning It's pretty much the cheapest way to get a 30 minute respite from the kids. And before you all go and get all tar-and-feathery, it's not so bad. I don't know what it's like in the UK and US, but here in my lil' ol regional town in australia, they have: - Heart foundation approved meals - kids happy meals comprised of - actual chicken nuggets (not MRM), - chopped up apple - water - chicken wrap Sure, some of it is way too salty, but man, they are quite close to one of the healthier take away places around, and the second healthiest option that has kids slids and air conditioning. Life wouldn't end if Mcdonalds disappeared, but the Martin family sure would miss it.
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V. wrote:
literally says: "Parents are not responsible".
And that's the whole point of this, if I eat every day at McDonald's, get fat, a heart attack, who's fault is it? McDonald's fault? they give out the nutrition facts of their meals... it's all my fault!! but it's so easy to point fingers blaming someone else. We know that junk food ain't healthy, but we still eat it and then blame the fast food chains for making me fat, if you want healthy food, eat at home, period. I like to read this kind of news, McDonald's is luring kids because the toys, the kids have no money!! the parents are the ones taking the kids to McDonald's, paying for the happy meal and now it's McDonald's fault, I'd say that McDonald's is a very successful company when using their marketing campaigns, they are not targeting kids, they're targeting parents. I remember my days when I was a kid "mom, can I have a happy meal today?" "NO, now eat your vegetables" and when mom said NO was NO, no way to get around of that, no way to negotiate a NO for a maybe or a yes, NO was NO, simple. I don't understand these days why parents are so afraid of educating their kids, to make them tough, how many of you remember those days when sitting at the table you mom made for dinner tomato soup X| , meat loaf X| and some green beans X| "I don't like it" "well, then go to your room, is this or nothing" what happened? either you went to bed hungry or ate whatever she gave you, now, everyone gets their own meal, if the kid only likes pizza, he gets pizza while the parents eat something else. Scared of child services? man, I grew up in a dictatorship and whenever I wanted to raise my voice, demand my rights a high heel shoe was used to remind me my rights and I grew up fine, I don't have any traumas nor feel abused, on the contrary I thank my parents for what they did to me So banning Happy Meals is not the solution, after that what they will ban, plastic swords because they make kids violent? cowboy hats because those give kids the sensation o been able to ride a horse?
I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!
I agree with you on most points.
Gonzoox wrote:
McDonald's is a very successful company when using their marketing campaigns, they are not targeting kids, they're targeting parents.
They're targeting parents through their kids. A lot of parents can't (won't) say no to their kids and yes, that is a problem of the parent. But it doesn't take away the fact that McD is targeting children. It is, however, their right to do so, as marketing is the science to get your message across to your target audience in the most influential way. They're doing that quite nicely.
Gonzoox wrote:
how many of you remember those days when sitting at the table you mom made for dinner tomato soup, meat loaf and some green beans. "I don't like it"
I liked broccoli and spinache (sp?) and I still do. On the other hand, I was a weird little kid, did my homework, like to do science, etc. My parents made me taste everything once or twice (different meals), so I'd make up my mind if I like something or not. This was to prevent me from dismissing vegetables because they look ugly. I still don't like some stuff though, but as I grew older, I started to like a lot more.
Gonzoox wrote:
man, I grew up in a dictatorship
Although my parents decision was final, they always had a reason for it and they explained it to me. Even if I didn't understand it at the time. They took the time to make sure I understood just enough to get it. So I'd say, don't raise your children with "because I said so", but take the time to explain everything to them. Also learn them to ask questions, it might make them annoying little brats at times (I know I was), but they'll learn soo much. I could have read that wrong, so sorry if your parents did what mine did and not the "do it because I told you so" routine.
Gonzoox wrote:
whenever I wanted to raise my voice, demand my rights a high heel shoe was used to remind me my rights
I've been raised in an violent free environment. Yes, I got in the usual fight at school (every boy gets that), but my parents never used physical violence to "straighten me out". Children will act the way they're brought up, if you do it without hitting or smacking them, they'll be less likely to start fights. They'll have enough opportunity to learn about the hardships of life without your help. You