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Who does not use jQuery these days?

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  • S Simon P Stevens

    I think we're about to see it get even more popular. It's now included as part of Visual studio 2010.

    Simon

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    boarderstu
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    It IS? Where exactly?

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    • I Ian Shlasko

      Me... I don't use it. Actually, I don't even know what it is... Assume it's some kind of Java SQL engine, right? Of course, I don't do much web work... I run one Drupal-based site (Hmm, maybe that uses jQuery... I dunno), and one site I wrote entirely in Pico :)

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      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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      Where have you been? are you living under a rock Ian? :)

      If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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      • S Simon P Stevens

        I think we're about to see it get even more popular. It's now included as part of Visual studio 2010.

        Simon

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        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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        IIRC, it was included in VS 2008 as well.

        If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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        • B boarderstu

          It IS? Where exactly?

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          Simon P Stevens
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          Check out the announcement: http://blog.jquery.com/2008/09/28/jquery-microsoft-nokia/[^] As far as I know it's very much an integral part of ASP.Net MVC, so I suspect that is where you will find it.

          Simon

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            Where have you been? are you living under a rock Ian? :)

            If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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            Ian Shlasko
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            I just never got into dynamic web development... Maybe I'm just getting old, but when I make a website, I want it to just sit there, not keep talking to the server even when the user isn't there.

            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
            Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              It seems as if every website I go to, including the some which have just "coming soon" or "under construction" pages, use jQuery is some capacity. Yes, as a web developer I do like to see the source of a web site. I am really surprised at the amazing success of jQuery. I did think that it is a good tool and it will be somewhat popular but I had no idea that it will be popular to this extent.

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              Machaira
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              Have used it, don't plan to.

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                It seems as if every website I go to, including the some which have just "coming soon" or "under construction" pages, use jQuery is some capacity. Yes, as a web developer I do like to see the source of a web site. I am really surprised at the amazing success of jQuery. I did think that it is a good tool and it will be somewhat popular but I had no idea that it will be popular to this extent.

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                Squirrel Hacker
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                While I tend to use it, it is frowned upon at my office as it is seen as bloat... They have written their own pile of global functions that they prefer to use... sigh

                Squirrel Hacker

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  It seems as if every website I go to, including the some which have just "coming soon" or "under construction" pages, use jQuery is some capacity. Yes, as a web developer I do like to see the source of a web site. I am really surprised at the amazing success of jQuery. I did think that it is a good tool and it will be somewhat popular but I had no idea that it will be popular to this extent.

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                  Michael A Cochran
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                  Wow, I'm actually surprised by the number of "don't use it" or "never heard of it" replies. IMHO, it's an essential part of any RIA. If you're not using a plugin like Silverlight or Flash, you gotta be thinking about using such a well accepted, cross-browser, cross-platform library like jQuery. Seems like it's probably one of the few useful libraries that is embraced by both Microsoft and IBM. Microsoft has fully incorporated it into the ASP.NET 4 webform and MVC components, and although IBM still pushed dojo (of course), there are tons of jQuery articles on IBM's developerworks site and it works well in all the IBM products. I even heard rumblings a while back that MS was going to opensource their ajax library probably because so much of it is now based upon jQuery. Not sure if they really did or not though. From the practical side, jQuery selectors are very flexible, allowing both DOM and CSS style selectors, and generally very fast. There are number of useful ui components and there is a large open source contribution as well. It's also super easy to create your own plugins. Want a treeview? Render a nested ul, call one jQuery.ui function and, bam!, you gotta nice treeview. Want a tabstrip? Render a collection of divs, call one jQuery.ui function and, pow!, there's a tab strip. Wanna do AJAX with a REST API? It's a simple jQuery function call, and it supports JSON, XML, HTML, text, as well as custom types. And it's all cross-browser. You might be wondering if I'm somehow affiliated with jQuery. I'm not. I just know it's been a godsend to me while trying to build and maintain commercial web applications that need to be cross-browser, cross-platform. I can build one client side codebase that works against either a .Net or a Java backend via an easy to create REST api. I would recommend jQuery to anyone... (actually, I think I just did :laugh: )

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    It seems as if every website I go to, including the some which have just "coming soon" or "under construction" pages, use jQuery is some capacity. Yes, as a web developer I do like to see the source of a web site. I am really surprised at the amazing success of jQuery. I did think that it is a good tool and it will be somewhat popular but I had no idea that it will be popular to this extent.

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                    Cure4Life
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                    I've looked at it in the past, but seriously cannot find a reason to stop using Prototype over jQuery http://prototypejs.org[^] However, i believe they can co-exist if needed.

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                      I've looked at it in the past, but seriously cannot find a reason to stop using Prototype over jQuery http://prototypejs.org[^] However, i believe they can co-exist if needed.

                      BillBuilt

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                      Matthew Hazlett
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                      Use what you like but prototypes rendering speeds are the worst of the lot. http://mootools.net/slickspeed/[^] For full disclosure, I am in the mootools camp.

                      Matthew Hazlett Fighting the good fight for web usability.

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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        It seems as if every website I go to, including the some which have just "coming soon" or "under construction" pages, use jQuery is some capacity. Yes, as a web developer I do like to see the source of a web site. I am really surprised at the amazing success of jQuery. I did think that it is a good tool and it will be somewhat popular but I had no idea that it will be popular to this extent.

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                        was8309
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                        being a web dev newbie, was trying to decide between dojo, prototype, and jquery, while trying to learn javascript by studying http://www.tiddlywiki.com/[^] . when tiddlywiki went w/ jquery, I followed.

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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                          It seems as if every website I go to, including the some which have just "coming soon" or "under construction" pages, use jQuery is some capacity. Yes, as a web developer I do like to see the source of a web site. I am really surprised at the amazing success of jQuery. I did think that it is a good tool and it will be somewhat popular but I had no idea that it will be popular to this extent.

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                          Mark C Hagers
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                          (a bit late to the party, but 30 april is a national holiday in Holland, so I missed this discussion earlier) I use it all the time, and I love it. The great thing about it IMO is that it's a library of functions I can use in my own code as opposed to a framework that forces me to recode everything according to it's guidelines. And I love the tight integration with VS. Mark C Hagers New Media Ventures Amersfoort, the Netherlands

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                            (a bit late to the party, but 30 april is a national holiday in Holland, so I missed this discussion earlier) I use it all the time, and I love it. The great thing about it IMO is that it's a library of functions I can use in my own code as opposed to a framework that forces me to recode everything according to it's guidelines. And I love the tight integration with VS. Mark C Hagers New Media Ventures Amersfoort, the Netherlands

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                            Mark C Hagers wrote:

                            The great thing about it IMO is that it's a library of functions I can use in my own code as opposed to a framework that forces me to recode everything according to it's guidelines

                            That's an excellent point.

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                              I've looked at it in the past, but seriously cannot find a reason to stop using Prototype over jQuery http://prototypejs.org[^] However, i believe they can co-exist if needed.

                              BillBuilt

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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                              Prototype was what I started with long time back. Very neat and well designed library. But jQuery took over it and has now emerged as the front runner.

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                              • M Matthew Hazlett

                                Use what you like but prototypes rendering speeds are the worst of the lot. http://mootools.net/slickspeed/[^] For full disclosure, I am in the mootools camp.

                                Matthew Hazlett Fighting the good fight for web usability.

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                                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                I am really surprised with dojo's speed. I always thought it was very bloated. I guess I was wrong.

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                                • J Jordy Kaiwa Ruiter

                                  Nope, I don't use it.. :)

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                                  jimrthy
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                                  Me either. It just feels sloppy and lazy to me. It reminds me too much of perl. Dojo is a much better fit for the way my mind works. But it's all a matter of personal preference. I'll eventually come up with something clever to put here. Really.

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