Whats going on?
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Rob Philpott wrote:
pretty much the whole of England is Conservative
While Wales and Scotland are pretty much Labour, despite the fact that they have their own so called Governments. So Labour cling to power on the votes of people who have already elected their own national assemblies but still think they need MPs at Westminster.
It's time for a new signature.
I'd like to see a Tory SNP coalition for the purpose of giving the Scots independence and removing Scottish MPs from the House of commons. After this there would be a clear government across England and Wales and no more hung parliament.
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Rob Philpott wrote:
pretty much the whole of England is Conservative
While Wales and Scotland are pretty much Labour, despite the fact that they have their own so called Governments. So Labour cling to power on the votes of people who have already elected their own national assemblies but still think they need MPs at Westminster.
It's time for a new signature.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
on the votes of people who have already elected their own national assemblies but still think they need MPs at Westminster
Not quite - the Westminster MPs are forced upon Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland to maintain the total number of MPs in the English parliament.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
their own so called Governments
Note that these are limited in power by the English parliament - particularly in the case of Wales if the Assembly wants to do anything major, it has to raise it's hand and ask permission from the teachers in Westminster. Has done some things though - all Welsh prescriptions are free and have been for 4 or 5 years. What are they charging per item in England these days - £7.20 still? Particularly for the elderly who tend to use more drugs as time goes on, this can be a major cost saver.
You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy
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I'd like to see a Tory SNP coalition for the purpose of giving the Scots independence and removing Scottish MPs from the House of commons. After this there would be a clear government across England and Wales and no more hung parliament.
What's so wrong with a hung parliament? I'll supply the rope... :-D
You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy
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What do the tories need to do to get in? We are in the middle of the biggest economic disaster we have had for a generation, we have had the expenses scandal, Labour have led us into an illegal war, Brown is obviously incompetent and unable to lead us through the current prediciment and yet the Tories still can't get in! Is this because the constituency boundaries have been moved in such a way that it is impossible for the Tories to regain power or is it that people dont trust Cameron either??
Maybe it's just that there is a large part of the population that doesn't trust the Conservatives. Labour were voted in with a landslide majority in the 90s when people were similarly sick of the Conservatives. It's just the reverse happening now -- except not as many people are pissed off with Labour, or as I said, they are pissed off with Labour, but don't trust the Tories.
Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)
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What do the tories need to do to get in? We are in the middle of the biggest economic disaster we have had for a generation, we have had the expenses scandal, Labour have led us into an illegal war, Brown is obviously incompetent and unable to lead us through the current prediciment and yet the Tories still can't get in! Is this because the constituency boundaries have been moved in such a way that it is impossible for the Tories to regain power or is it that people dont trust Cameron either??
People are stupid, pure and simple.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
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People are stupid, pure and simple.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
on the votes of people who have already elected their own national assemblies but still think they need MPs at Westminster
Not quite - the Westminster MPs are forced upon Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland to maintain the total number of MPs in the English parliament.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
their own so called Governments
Note that these are limited in power by the English parliament - particularly in the case of Wales if the Assembly wants to do anything major, it has to raise it's hand and ask permission from the teachers in Westminster. Has done some things though - all Welsh prescriptions are free and have been for 4 or 5 years. What are they charging per item in England these days - £7.20 still? Particularly for the elderly who tend to use more drugs as time goes on, this can be a major cost saver.
You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy
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I was being provocative; everyone is well aware of why this was done. Having a Scottish name, Welsh upbringing, but living in England I very much believe that a single 'British' government is all that we need.
It's time for a new signature.
It would be nice if we had one, rather than the London-centric bunch of self-serving crooks political system we are used to!
You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy
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It would be nice if we had one, rather than the London-centric bunch of self-serving crooks political system we are used to!
You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy
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What do the tories need to do to get in? We are in the middle of the biggest economic disaster we have had for a generation, we have had the expenses scandal, Labour have led us into an illegal war, Brown is obviously incompetent and unable to lead us through the current prediciment and yet the Tories still can't get in! Is this because the constituency boundaries have been moved in such a way that it is impossible for the Tories to regain power or is it that people dont trust Cameron either??
You must be too young to remember much about how the tories run the country.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Perhaps they are. But they have spoken, and spoken with an unclear voice.
:laugh: Nicely put.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
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You must be too young to remember much about how the tories run the country.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
I'm not and they were bloody marvelous - great years. Labour have ground the UK into the floor. Why people suddenly expect them to do anything differently just highlights how dumb the avast majority of people are.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
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What do the tories need to do to get in? We are in the middle of the biggest economic disaster we have had for a generation, we have had the expenses scandal, Labour have led us into an illegal war, Brown is obviously incompetent and unable to lead us through the current prediciment and yet the Tories still can't get in! Is this because the constituency boundaries have been moved in such a way that it is impossible for the Tories to regain power or is it that people dont trust Cameron either??
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What do the tories need to do to get in? We are in the middle of the biggest economic disaster we have had for a generation, we have had the expenses scandal, Labour have led us into an illegal war, Brown is obviously incompetent and unable to lead us through the current prediciment and yet the Tories still can't get in! Is this because the constituency boundaries have been moved in such a way that it is impossible for the Tories to regain power or is it that people dont trust Cameron either??
As soon as they put forward an adult as leader they'll win.
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I'm not and they were bloody marvelous - great years. Labour have ground the UK into the floor. Why people suddenly expect them to do anything differently just highlights how dumb the avast majority of people are.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
yeah, it was great under the tories, with hospital corridors put to their proper use, full of people on trolleys. and that nice Mr Pinochet always dropping in for tea with the PM.
