VS2008 is it safe to let it go now?

DaveAuld

On my laptop and my main PC i have both VS2008 and VS2010 today i took a VS2008 project folder and copied to VS2010 project folder and it did an inplace conversion without any issues. As both these IDE's are multi-targetting, is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

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daveauld wrote:

is there any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008

Some plugins might only work for VS2008. If you work with somebody else and they only have VS2008, would they be able to open your VS2010 solution?

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Rama Krishna Vavilala

daveauld wrote:

any justification or benefit for keeping VS2008?

Only if you are doing unmanaged development.

dan sh

I personally get rid of the older VS version as soon as the new one comes up. SO IMHO, there is no point keeping VS 2008 if you have VS 2010.

Joshua Tully

Other than VS2010 wasn't much of an improvement? If you're interested in XNA Game Studio then you wont be able to develop for anything other than Windows 7 Mobile as the 4.0 CTP will integrate into VS2010 but only allows building for mobile platforms (3.1 is the one to use an only integrates into 2005 and 2008).

supercat9

Only if you are doing unmanaged development. I write applications for embedded systems, but find it useful to test them by compiling them with C++ in VS2005 (using PC code to simulate the I/O). Would upgrading to VS2008 or VS2010 likely be helpful, or should I stick with 2005?

Rama Krishna Vavilala

I should have been more clear with my answer. Basically, if you have VS2010 you can still develop .NET 2.0/3.5/4.0 applications. But you cannot continue to develop applications which target VC Runtime 8.0/9/0/10.0. If you have existing applications which work with VC 9.0 runtime then you have to upgrade them to use VC 10.0.

Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

I mean, GB are at a premium these days. I am not going to delete VS2008 but I am not going to install it when I get my new system in August.

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Dan Neely

Performance? 2010 is supposed to be slower and more bloated....

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supercat9

Basically, if you have VS2010 you can still develop .NET 2.0/3.5/4.0 applications. But you cannot continue to develop applications which target VC Runtime 8.0/9/0/10.0. If you have existing applications which work with VC 9.0 runtime then you have to upgrade them to use VC 10.0.

So C++ console applications which just use a few API calls for sockets should be fine? Useful to know. How do VS2008 and VS2010 compare with VS2005 in terms of features and usability? Is there an "express" version of Visual C++ 2010? Is it any good?

Jeremy Falcon

supercat9 wrote:

So C++ console applications which just use a few API calls for sockets should be fine? Useful to know.

Even a basic app will link against a paticular version of the CRT. So, you'd still need to upgrade your app's installation routine at the very least to incorporate the new DLLs.

supercat9 wrote:

Is there an "express" version of Visual C++ 2010?

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Jeremy Falcon

Rama Krishna Vavilala

supercat9 wrote:

So C++ console applications which just use a few API calls for sockets should be fine?

Only if you are statically linking to the CRT or not linking to CRT at all.

Maximilien

Dan Neely wrote:

supposed

???? it IS slower and bloated. We would need to replaced all of our computers if we decide to switch to VS2010.

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Nemanja Trifunovic

Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

But you cannot continue to develop applications which target VC Runtime 8.0/9/0/10.0. If you have existing applications which work with VC 9.0 runtime then you have to upgrade them to use VC 10.0.

CRT is not .NET framework. I've never heard of anybody "targeting" any VC runtime. You simpply build what you need and then either link the CRT statically or distribute it as a DLL along with other executables.

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Lost User

I started using it yesterday. It's quite a bit quicker on my machine. My fairly large C++ solution compiled in less than half the time as it did in VS2008. I keep hearing people say it's slower but I'm not seeing it. Cheers, Drew.

Distind

Multicore machine perhaps? I've been figuring they're trying to take advantage of the kind of machine one would expect of an early adopter, or the kind of machine someone who chronically claims they'll only touch it after service pack 2 will have after they release service pack 2.

Lost User

Yup, it's a quad core. I'm wondering if the WPF parts it supposedly has benefit from the NVidia 8800GTX I have. The UI seemed really snappy to me. Cheers, Drew.

Rama Krishna Vavilala

Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

distribute it as a DLL along with other executables.

True and that is where you will need 2 versions of VS. Let's say you have an unmanaged application developed using VS 2008 in production. You will still need VS2008 to maintain that application. If you upgrade to VS2010 you have to re-build the application, re-build the setups and more testing. usually that means a new version of your application. But if it was purely .NET application targeting .NEt 3.5, you can afford to uninstall VS2008 and use VS2010.

Dan Neely

IIRC WPF is hardware accelerated.

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Dan Neely

I've yet to install it, and am do not regard anecdotal evidence as definitive; nor I have I seen anyone who compared times to do various tasks with a stopwatch...

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