Case is OVER!!!
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Link please? :cool:
I've always heard that there was an idea behind Win ME... I still can't figure out what that was... anyboy know??? I;ve herad the idea was that it was supposed to be n operating system but I doubt this. - Brian Delahunty
New link directly to MS... MS Legal Clickety[^]
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Microsoft wins! Judge accepted settlement. Maybe we can move on now!!!!Slashdot must have been trolling the court's web server - they had the links up at about 3:05 - 25 minutes before release.
Cool. I hope some retarded "I'm l33t3r than th0u"-kiddies will cry themselves to sleep tonight. However, I do not condone how Microsoft does business every now and then. But that doesn't mean they should be hacked into pieces. -- Master, I'm so glad to feel your presence. But you don't seem to share my impatience. I relied upon you to break the silence. I cannot understand your reluctance. Master, I feel so warm and I'm so happy, oh master. Give me some more of the warm little beasts I'm so fond of.
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Microsoft wins! Judge accepted settlement. Maybe we can move on now!!!!Slashdot must have been trolling the court's web server - they had the links up at about 3:05 - 25 minutes before release.
By the way; what kind of jury is used during such a trial? Any Joe Average is hardly a "peer" in a case like this, nor is it very easy to find unbiased people... -- Master, I'm so glad to feel your presence. But you don't seem to share my impatience. I relied upon you to break the silence. I cannot understand your reluctance. Master, I feel so warm and I'm so happy, oh master. Give me some more of the warm little beasts I'm so fond of.
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Microsoft wins! Judge accepted settlement. Maybe we can move on now!!!!Slashdot must have been trolling the court's web server - they had the links up at about 3:05 - 25 minutes before release.
(1) Nine other states are pursuing their own case. (2) Microsoft "wins" in the sense that they were found guilty as charged* (previously decided), but most of the watered-down provisions suggested by Microsoft were accepted. * Microsoft was found to have violated antitrust laws, illegally maintaining its monopoly over computer software operating systems by strong-arming competitors. But an appeals court threw out a previous order that would break the company in two, leaving Kollar-Kotelly to decide how Microsoft should be punished. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/aptech_story.asp?category=1700&slug=Microsoft%20Antitrust[^] The settlement would prevent Microsoft from participating in exclusive deals that could hurt competitors; require uniform contract terms for computer manufacturers; allow manufacturers and customers to remove icons for some Microsoft features; and require that the company release some technical data so software developers can write programs for Windows that work as well as Microsoft products do. So, Microsoft has to use uniform contract terms with OEMs. At least they won't be able to do their old trick of telling OEMs "do as we say or we'll charge you more for Windows and your competitors will eat you alive". I'll be interesting to see how Microsoft will wiggle it's way around this one, though. (Because you know they will.) allow manufacturers and customers to remove icons for some Microsoft features Unfortunately, the damage is already done. MS has market dominance in those areas. The key was to put this provision in place before they gained market dominance. It would've been nice to see Microsoft actually punished. Instead, the DOJ says, "Gee, you've done a lot of nasty things in the past. We'll pretend they didn't happen, but we're going to make sure you don't do it again (at least not in the same way that you did before)." All in all, MS does a great job writing software. Too bad they feel they have to resort to nasty strong-arm anti-competitive behavior. They should be spanked. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carrie
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Microsoft wins! Judge accepted settlement. Maybe we can move on now!!!!Slashdot must have been trolling the court's web server - they had the links up at about 3:05 - 25 minutes before release.
http://www.codeproject.com/script/rumor/article.asp?id=265[^] cheers, Chris Maunder
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Microsoft wins! Judge accepted settlement. Maybe we can move on now!!!!Slashdot must have been trolling the court's web server - they had the links up at about 3:05 - 25 minutes before release.
At least the slashdotters are handling it in a mature manner. It's only a matter of time before the *nix kiddies stop playing counter-strike and start posting... I have been here a year and this is probably the best signature I've ever had.
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At least the slashdotters are handling it in a mature manner. It's only a matter of time before the *nix kiddies stop playing counter-strike and start posting... I have been here a year and this is probably the best signature I've ever had.
Simon Walton wrote: I have been here a year and this is probably the best signature I've ever had. Huh? Wasn't there one about hippoes or something...? Shog9 ------ Googlism:
shog is shog is it? shog is just shog is a lawyer shog is moderating shog is controlled by the latest variant shog is ranked 16 and has played for 5h7m in 14 days
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By the way; what kind of jury is used during such a trial? Any Joe Average is hardly a "peer" in a case like this, nor is it very easy to find unbiased people... -- Master, I'm so glad to feel your presence. But you don't seem to share my impatience. I relied upon you to break the silence. I cannot understand your reluctance. Master, I feel so warm and I'm so happy, oh master. Give me some more of the warm little beasts I'm so fond of.
By the way; what kind of jury is used during such a trial? Any Joe Average is hardly a "peer" in a case like this, nor is it very easy to find unbiased people... I don't think a jury is used. I think that only applies to criminal cases. This is a business trial. [ Edit ] Acursed stray threads! ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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By the way; what kind of jury is used during such a trial? Any Joe Average is hardly a "peer" in a case like this, nor is it very easy to find unbiased people... I don't think a jury is used. I think that only applies to criminal cases. This is a business trial. [ Edit ] Acursed stray threads! ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
Brit wrote: Acursed stray threads! The bug returns! :-D I have been here a year and this is probably the best signature I've ever had.
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http://www.codeproject.com/script/rumor/article.asp?id=265[^] cheers, Chris Maunder
"However, Microsoft must allow access to documents and source code to the Plaintiff States where the code or docs relate to the judgment made. However, the States may look, but they can't publish this information themselves." Very fair - providing they aren't leaked I suppose. But then, I guess a corporation as big as MS doesn't need little people like me sticking up for them ;P
I've always heard that there was an idea behind Win ME... I still can't figure out what that was... anyboy know??? I;ve herad the idea was that it was supposed to be n operating system but I doubt this. - Brian Delahunty
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http://www.codeproject.com/script/rumor/article.asp?id=265[^] cheers, Chris Maunder
Very speedy, Chris. :) I have been here a year and this is probably the best signature I've ever had.
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Simon Walton wrote: I have been here a year and this is probably the best signature I've ever had. Huh? Wasn't there one about hippoes or something...? Shog9 ------ Googlism:
shog is shog is it? shog is just shog is a lawyer shog is moderating shog is controlled by the latest variant shog is ranked 16 and has played for 5h7m in 14 days
Shog9 wrote: Huh? Wasn't there one about hippoes or something...? Hmm. I've had so many signatures I can't remember. I don't recall there being a hippo one though. :) I have been here a year and this is probably the best signature I've ever had.
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Microsoft wins! Judge accepted settlement. Maybe we can move on now!!!!Slashdot must have been trolling the court's web server - they had the links up at about 3:05 - 25 minutes before release.
It's interesting the time on the slashdot article now says 3:33 (this is the update time when they added the brief summary, I think). I wonder if they will have some disclosure issues - there was recently something in the news about a company suing a news outlet over releasing their financials before they were officially released. Apparently they found the link on the site and used it. Surely messing with a Federal Judge and staff is not a good thing. It was originally intended to be released after the market closed, but I bet they had it prior. Shut down slashdot? That would be nice!;)
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By the way; what kind of jury is used during such a trial? Any Joe Average is hardly a "peer" in a case like this, nor is it very easy to find unbiased people... -- Master, I'm so glad to feel your presence. But you don't seem to share my impatience. I relied upon you to break the silence. I cannot understand your reluctance. Master, I feel so warm and I'm so happy, oh master. Give me some more of the warm little beasts I'm so fond of.
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It's interesting the time on the slashdot article now says 3:33 (this is the update time when they added the brief summary, I think). I wonder if they will have some disclosure issues - there was recently something in the news about a company suing a news outlet over releasing their financials before they were officially released. Apparently they found the link on the site and used it. Surely messing with a Federal Judge and staff is not a good thing. It was originally intended to be released after the market closed, but I bet they had it prior. Shut down slashdot? That would be nice!;)
Topper Price wrote: Shut down slashdot? That would be nice! Yeah, let's shut down people who don't think like you. Very nice saying. :(( I can see MS brainwashing worked well with you :laugh: Michel It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time to say anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a very long time to say, and to listen to.
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Topper Price wrote: Shut down slashdot? That would be nice! Yeah, let's shut down people who don't think like you. Very nice saying. :(( I can see MS brainwashing worked well with you :laugh: Michel It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time to say anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a very long time to say, and to listen to.
- TreeBeardYeah, let's shut down people who don't think like you. Actually, it's the folks that don't think at all (95% of slashdot) that wouldn't bother me. Occassionally you will find some very insightful comments, but you have to read through hundreds of idiots to get there. Slashdot is hardly 'the place to go' for enlightened thought.
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Shog9 wrote: Huh? Wasn't there one about hippoes or something...? Hmm. I've had so many signatures I can't remember. I don't recall there being a hippo one though. :) I have been here a year and this is probably the best signature I've ever had.
Sorry, i was thinking of Roger Allen, i think. Both were self-aware signatures, hence the confusion. :-O Shog9 ------ Googlism:
shog is shog is it? shog is just shog is a lawyer shog is moderating shog is controlled by the latest variant shog is ranked 16 and has played for 5h7m in 14 days
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Yeah, let's shut down people who don't think like you. Actually, it's the folks that don't think at all (95% of slashdot) that wouldn't bother me. Occassionally you will find some very insightful comments, but you have to read through hundreds of idiots to get there. Slashdot is hardly 'the place to go' for enlightened thought.
Actually, it's the folks that don't think at all (95% of slashdot) that wouldn't bother me. Occassionally you will find some very insightful comments, but you have to read through hundreds of idiots to get there. Slashdot is hardly 'the place to go' for enlightened thought. Wow, they sound like every other message board on the internet (CP excepted, of course). Have you ever visited Yahoo message boards? ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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(1) Nine other states are pursuing their own case. (2) Microsoft "wins" in the sense that they were found guilty as charged* (previously decided), but most of the watered-down provisions suggested by Microsoft were accepted. * Microsoft was found to have violated antitrust laws, illegally maintaining its monopoly over computer software operating systems by strong-arming competitors. But an appeals court threw out a previous order that would break the company in two, leaving Kollar-Kotelly to decide how Microsoft should be punished. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/aptech_story.asp?category=1700&slug=Microsoft%20Antitrust[^] The settlement would prevent Microsoft from participating in exclusive deals that could hurt competitors; require uniform contract terms for computer manufacturers; allow manufacturers and customers to remove icons for some Microsoft features; and require that the company release some technical data so software developers can write programs for Windows that work as well as Microsoft products do. So, Microsoft has to use uniform contract terms with OEMs. At least they won't be able to do their old trick of telling OEMs "do as we say or we'll charge you more for Windows and your competitors will eat you alive". I'll be interesting to see how Microsoft will wiggle it's way around this one, though. (Because you know they will.) allow manufacturers and customers to remove icons for some Microsoft features Unfortunately, the damage is already done. MS has market dominance in those areas. The key was to put this provision in place before they gained market dominance. It would've been nice to see Microsoft actually punished. Instead, the DOJ says, "Gee, you've done a lot of nasty things in the past. We'll pretend they didn't happen, but we're going to make sure you don't do it again (at least not in the same way that you did before)." All in all, MS does a great job writing software. Too bad they feel they have to resort to nasty strong-arm anti-competitive behavior. They should be spanked. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carrie
Brit wrote: It would've been nice to see Microsoft actually punished. I agree. http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/Pre_96/July94/94387.txt.html[^] Look how well that worked... X|
Know Jesus, no peace. No Jesus, know peace.
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Actually, it's the folks that don't think at all (95% of slashdot) that wouldn't bother me. Occassionally you will find some very insightful comments, but you have to read through hundreds of idiots to get there. Slashdot is hardly 'the place to go' for enlightened thought. Wow, they sound like every other message board on the internet (CP excepted, of course). Have you ever visited Yahoo message boards? ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
dont even bother with yahoo anymore. digital wasteland springs to mind X|