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    Chris Maunder
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    The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code. That's #1. For me, though, Visual Studio 2010 is continually getting into a state where it no longer allows me to type. Usually I can just switch to another tab, then back again, or I close the file and reopen, and then I can edit again. There's no warning - just suddenly I can no longer type in that window. Sometimes if I switch away, then back, I see all the typing (and banging) that I did appear, meaning lots of Ctrl-Z-ing. However, I've just had a new one: I can no longer edit the second line in my current file. Everything else is fine, but I can't drag and drop, delete, type on it - nothing. Line 1 is great, line3, it welcomes my edits. But not line 2. Today is "Thou Shalt Not Touch Line 2 Day". I have to say that for all this talk of focus on quality in Microsoft products, they were using the wrong glasses. VS 2010 is becoming painful.

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code. That's #1. For me, though, Visual Studio 2010 is continually getting into a state where it no longer allows me to type. Usually I can just switch to another tab, then back again, or I close the file and reopen, and then I can edit again. There's no warning - just suddenly I can no longer type in that window. Sometimes if I switch away, then back, I see all the typing (and banging) that I did appear, meaning lots of Ctrl-Z-ing. However, I've just had a new one: I can no longer edit the second line in my current file. Everything else is fine, but I can't drag and drop, delete, type on it - nothing. Line 1 is great, line3, it welcomes my edits. But not line 2. Today is "Thou Shalt Not Touch Line 2 Day". I have to say that for all this talk of focus on quality in Microsoft products, they were using the wrong glasses. VS 2010 is becoming painful.

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Just a quick question. What happens if you edit line 2 in notepad? I'm not being funny here, but does it trigger a reload and does it let you do your mojo again?

      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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        The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code. That's #1. For me, though, Visual Studio 2010 is continually getting into a state where it no longer allows me to type. Usually I can just switch to another tab, then back again, or I close the file and reopen, and then I can edit again. There's no warning - just suddenly I can no longer type in that window. Sometimes if I switch away, then back, I see all the typing (and banging) that I did appear, meaning lots of Ctrl-Z-ing. However, I've just had a new one: I can no longer edit the second line in my current file. Everything else is fine, but I can't drag and drop, delete, type on it - nothing. Line 1 is great, line3, it welcomes my edits. But not line 2. Today is "Thou Shalt Not Touch Line 2 Day". I have to say that for all this talk of focus on quality in Microsoft products, they were using the wrong glasses. VS 2010 is becoming painful.

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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        Nemanja Trifunovic
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        Chris Maunder wrote:

        The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code.

        Really? I use it mostly for debugging. There are much better code editors out there.

        utf8-cpp

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          Just a quick question. What happens if you edit line 2 in notepad? I'm not being funny here, but does it trigger a reload and does it let you do your mojo again?

          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

          As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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          Chris Maunder
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          It did it's usual and after sufficient aggrevation, Line 2 suddenly became editable again. I could simply be losing my marbles. That's always an option.

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            It did it's usual and after sufficient aggrevation, Line 2 suddenly became editable again. I could simply be losing my marbles. That's always an option.

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            Dalek Dave
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            Sounds like the processor is off doing other interesting things instead working conscientiously for you!

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              Sounds like the processor is off doing other interesting things instead working conscientiously for you!

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              Chris Maunder
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              It's not a lock-up. Everything works perfectly normally except I could not edit line 2. If the whole file gets locked then I can edit any other file, compile, whatever. Just that file. I then jiggle a mysterious *something* and then it works again. I think it's the WPF

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code.

                Really? I use it mostly for debugging. There are much better code editors out there.

                utf8-cpp

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                There are much better code editors out there.

                What's sad is even Notepad++ (not that it's my fav) has features MS still hasn't gotten around to. You'd think with all of Microsoft's resources VS would've had them before anyone else.

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  It's not a lock-up. Everything works perfectly normally except I could not edit line 2. If the whole file gets locked then I can edit any other file, compile, whatever. Just that file. I then jiggle a mysterious *something* and then it works again. I think it's the WPF

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  My suspicion is that it was one of the adorners. The adorner layer sits on top, so it wasn't registering on your clicks underneath - hence modifying the line elsewhere.

                  "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                  As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                    It's not a lock-up. Everything works perfectly normally except I could not edit line 2. If the whole file gets locked then I can edit any other file, compile, whatever. Just that file. I then jiggle a mysterious *something* and then it works again. I think it's the WPF

                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                    CPallini
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                    You should post your problem in the Quick Answers, we've the MysticalPowers tag there. :-D

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code. That's #1. For me, though, Visual Studio 2010 is continually getting into a state where it no longer allows me to type. Usually I can just switch to another tab, then back again, or I close the file and reopen, and then I can edit again. There's no warning - just suddenly I can no longer type in that window. Sometimes if I switch away, then back, I see all the typing (and banging) that I did appear, meaning lots of Ctrl-Z-ing. However, I've just had a new one: I can no longer edit the second line in my current file. Everything else is fine, but I can't drag and drop, delete, type on it - nothing. Line 1 is great, line3, it welcomes my edits. But not line 2. Today is "Thou Shalt Not Touch Line 2 Day". I have to say that for all this talk of focus on quality in Microsoft products, they were using the wrong glasses. VS 2010 is becoming painful.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                      Henry Minute
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                      Not the line 2 thing but the rest I've had in both VS2005 and VS2008 although not recently in 2008 and I only use 2005 infrequently. Unlike you, however, I never found the secret *something*, the only cure in my case was to close VS and reopen it.

                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.

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                        My suspicion is that it was one of the adorners. The adorner layer sits on top, so it wasn't registering on your clicks underneath - hence modifying the line elsewhere.

                        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        My suspicion is that it was one of the adorners.

                        Sounds like something you can only find in a gay bar...

                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                          The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code. That's #1. For me, though, Visual Studio 2010 is continually getting into a state where it no longer allows me to type. Usually I can just switch to another tab, then back again, or I close the file and reopen, and then I can edit again. There's no warning - just suddenly I can no longer type in that window. Sometimes if I switch away, then back, I see all the typing (and banging) that I did appear, meaning lots of Ctrl-Z-ing. However, I've just had a new one: I can no longer edit the second line in my current file. Everything else is fine, but I can't drag and drop, delete, type on it - nothing. Line 1 is great, line3, it welcomes my edits. But not line 2. Today is "Thou Shalt Not Touch Line 2 Day". I have to say that for all this talk of focus on quality in Microsoft products, they were using the wrong glasses. VS 2010 is becoming painful.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          martin_hughes
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                          Have you tried turning it off then back on again?

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                            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                            My suspicion is that it was one of the adorners.

                            Sounds like something you can only find in a gay bar...

                            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                            -----
                            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            I wouldn't know mate. I'm secure in my masculinity; I don't need to compensate with a big gun. ;P

                            "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                            As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                              Have you tried turning it off then back on again?

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              Sounds like dating advice - have you tried turning her on again?

                              "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                              As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code. That's #1. For me, though, Visual Studio 2010 is continually getting into a state where it no longer allows me to type. Usually I can just switch to another tab, then back again, or I close the file and reopen, and then I can edit again. There's no warning - just suddenly I can no longer type in that window. Sometimes if I switch away, then back, I see all the typing (and banging) that I did appear, meaning lots of Ctrl-Z-ing. However, I've just had a new one: I can no longer edit the second line in my current file. Everything else is fine, but I can't drag and drop, delete, type on it - nothing. Line 1 is great, line3, it welcomes my edits. But not line 2. Today is "Thou Shalt Not Touch Line 2 Day". I have to say that for all this talk of focus on quality in Microsoft products, they were using the wrong glasses. VS 2010 is becoming painful.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                Christopher Duncan
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                                I suppose for those who are used to working completely in the IDE it would be weird to toggle back and forth between the compiler / debugger and an editor (though perhaps not as weird as being unable to edit line 2). I've been doing it so long it's natural to me and I simply can't imagine trusting my coding, i.e. what I spend most of my time doing when developing, to a subpar application. No matter what I'm doing, I like power tools. I wouldn't use a chainsaw to change sparkplugs, so why would I want to use a compiler / debugger to write source code? The right tool for the job, and all that.

                                Christopher Duncan
                                www.PracticalUSA.com
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                                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                  My suspicion is that it was one of the adorners.

                                  Sounds like something you can only find in a gay bar...

                                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                  -----
                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                  -----
                                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                  I bow to your superiour knowledge.

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code. That's #1. For me, though, Visual Studio 2010 is continually getting into a state where it no longer allows me to type. Usually I can just switch to another tab, then back again, or I close the file and reopen, and then I can edit again. There's no warning - just suddenly I can no longer type in that window. Sometimes if I switch away, then back, I see all the typing (and banging) that I did appear, meaning lots of Ctrl-Z-ing. However, I've just had a new one: I can no longer edit the second line in my current file. Everything else is fine, but I can't drag and drop, delete, type on it - nothing. Line 1 is great, line3, it welcomes my edits. But not line 2. Today is "Thou Shalt Not Touch Line 2 Day". I have to say that for all this talk of focus on quality in Microsoft products, they were using the wrong glasses. VS 2010 is becoming painful.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Andrew Rissing
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                                    Have you tried disabling all the addons/extensions you have. Perhaps, you've just got a buggy extension. You know..like have you installed the addon called ThouShaltNotTouchLineTwo?

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                                      Sounds like dating advice - have you tried turning her on again?

                                      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                      martin_hughes
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                                      Sound advice is sound in many situations - up to and not excluding the fairer sex! (although knowing which buttons to press in that case is a matter of on-going research...)

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                                        I suppose for those who are used to working completely in the IDE it would be weird to toggle back and forth between the compiler / debugger and an editor (though perhaps not as weird as being unable to edit line 2). I've been doing it so long it's natural to me and I simply can't imagine trusting my coding, i.e. what I spend most of my time doing when developing, to a subpar application. No matter what I'm doing, I like power tools. I wouldn't use a chainsaw to change sparkplugs, so why would I want to use a compiler / debugger to write source code? The right tool for the job, and all that.

                                        Christopher Duncan
                                        www.PracticalUSA.com
                                        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                        Copywriting Services

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                                        martin_hughes
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                                        What did you do during the war Grandpa Chris? :)

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                                          What did you do during the war Grandpa Chris? :)

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                                          Christopher Duncan
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                                          Took potshots at smartass young whippersnappers like you, for the most part. :) I'm not opposed to something that does the job better than The Old Way. I was using Borland Turbo C's IDE with glee when MS C coders were fumbling around with a command line compiler, separate debugger, and some clumsy excuse for a Microsoft editor (m, if I recall correctly). But as good as the Borland IDE was for its time, someone showed me Brief and how much faster I could get my job done with it, and I immediately switched my coding habits. Intellisense is nice but Visual SlickEdit (and its competitors, I'm sure) do that, too. What, just because VS has a built in editor, I'm supposed to use it or I'm a Luddite? Even if it's pathetic? What if they threw in some photo editing capabilities - should I sell Photoshop? Man, what Koolaid have you been drinking? And by the way, bubba - you're older than me, if I recall. ;P

                                          Christopher Duncan
                                          www.PracticalUSA.com
                                          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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