Speaking in 'toungues'
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fat_boy wrote:
Ah, so you think the speaker doesnt actually know what he is saying?
I just assumed, might not be the case.
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Lol. Well. How about "if you're not speaking in tongues, you are not really a christian"? Also, research has been done. Researchers at the University of Pennsylvania took brain images of five women while they spoke in tongues and found that their frontal lobes — the thinking, willful part of the brain through which people control what they do — were relatively quiet, as were the language centers. The regions involved in maintaining self-consciousness were active. Indicating that they're just spouting gibberish, while they remained self-conscious, so they were not "possessed". And the brain is purely chemical - if god were poking around in the brain, it would be measurable.
harold aptroot wrote:
The regions involved in maintaining self-consciousness were active
YEah, I can see why. I would feel pretty self concious gibbering away in public like that! I like the research though, it really does prove it is just mindless blather.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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I think you are probably right. After all, one would have expected them to have produced a 'toungue' dictionary if they knew what they were saying.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Please learn how to spell 'tongue'. ;)
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What's impressive, in my opinion, is being able to speak in human languages. 'Speaking in tongues' follows no consistent syntax or grammar.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
What's impressive, in my opinion, is being able to speak in human languages.
We have a two year old son who was a bit slow to pick up language but now seems to learn many new words every day. It's an amazing thing to watch him learning to communicate verbally.
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Please learn how to spell 'tongue'. ;)
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What's impressive, in my opinion, is being able to speak in human languages. 'Speaking in tongues' follows no consistent syntax or grammar.
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Yeah, sorry. My English spelling is really fallling apart these days!
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
You should do what I do and always have a dictionary handy! :)
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
What's impressive, in my opinion, is being able to speak in human languages.
We have a two year old son who was a bit slow to pick up language but now seems to learn many new words every day. It's an amazing thing to watch him learning to communicate verbally.
Josh Gray wrote:
It's an amazing thing to watch him learning to communicate verbally.
And then you'll have to watch it decline again when he reaches adolescence. ;P
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You should do what I do and always have a dictionary handy! :)
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Too slow, and really beyond caring!
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Use an electronic dictionary/thesaurus. It's brilliant.
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OK, not naming names here, but it turns out there are some CP members who do. Now I have always found this hysterically funny. How supposedly grown up people can be so self delusional as to make complete idiots out of themselves by gibbering away like this is just so deeply funny. I always associated this behaviour with fairly stupid people. After all stupid peopel are easially duped, but to hear of CP members bragging about 'speaking in toungues' is almost disturbing. How can these people seriously think this is a language spoken by god? OK, so lets assume it is, has anyone got a dictionary? Can anyone trace the etymology of Sanscrit or Hebrew, or anyother ancient language back to 'toungue'? After all, we all did speak this one language way back, or so the Bible says, so any of those older languages would derrive from this common language in the way that most European languages derrive for Sanskrit. So, come on you gibbering religious types, got any proof that you arent completely bonkers? Can you provide a dictionary and if not why not? You make an audible sound, why cant it be represented by any of the 46 or so common phonemes and written down?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Hit ruge onahit neqew rabum cahoc, li urudus gehages tenare madeli solen citena tutomu me iyego. Ierafap bacoliet ehonier lawece mi maninil. Eherol reguni ne delete tadietew otuninas ribix, sotas udohi sa cot: Tariepar pelabiy nesos irel rose omene elaya gise cutie gor? Epi honisoc ti, sata isarur seteqot let cif sedi dawer. Tiet cienemer he xodeso tolon. Putiroh towelie ro ropi fomil itutem etedare? Ecelen rexulet ra sunema notorut ipoh ucedamif nic; yemem lapa imal. Dare nisasey liedoh. Tisisop asudo tarosok yeyegan atotidie one ilil siponuh cen egepe. Ebim ebini otatesi rid fop bodarat iloco poc! Pare teriwec se sacaze delo pihecet cu losohas cacehas. Etogomie yoni ewic gayu bem peweg tidas ece lawaco. Tule ebipemo mohetod noson ca. Pa giligi yemi doma mitate.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven nils illegitimus carborundum
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Use an electronic dictionary/thesaurus. It's brilliant.
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Hit ruge onahit neqew rabum cahoc, li urudus gehages tenare madeli solen citena tutomu me iyego. Ierafap bacoliet ehonier lawece mi maninil. Eherol reguni ne delete tadietew otuninas ribix, sotas udohi sa cot: Tariepar pelabiy nesos irel rose omene elaya gise cutie gor? Epi honisoc ti, sata isarur seteqot let cif sedi dawer. Tiet cienemer he xodeso tolon. Putiroh towelie ro ropi fomil itutem etedare? Ecelen rexulet ra sunema notorut ipoh ucedamif nic; yemem lapa imal. Dare nisasey liedoh. Tisisop asudo tarosok yeyegan atotidie one ilil siponuh cen egepe. Ebim ebini otatesi rid fop bodarat iloco poc! Pare teriwec se sacaze delo pihecet cu losohas cacehas. Etogomie yoni ewic gayu bem peweg tidas ece lawaco. Tule ebipemo mohetod noson ca. Pa giligi yemi doma mitate.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven nils illegitimus carborundum
Each word you used exactly once. That's not very consistent with a language.
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Each word you used exactly once. That's not very consistent with a language.
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Hit ruge onahit neqew rabum cahoc, li urudus gehages tenare madeli solen citena tutomu me iyego. Ierafap bacoliet ehonier lawece mi maninil. Eherol reguni ne delete tadietew otuninas ribix, sotas udohi sa cot: Tariepar pelabiy nesos irel rose omene elaya gise cutie gor? Epi honisoc ti, sata isarur seteqot let cif sedi dawer. Tiet cienemer he xodeso tolon. Putiroh towelie ro ropi fomil itutem etedare? Ecelen rexulet ra sunema notorut ipoh ucedamif nic; yemem lapa imal. Dare nisasey liedoh. Tisisop asudo tarosok yeyegan atotidie one ilil siponuh cen egepe. Ebim ebini otatesi rid fop bodarat iloco poc! Pare teriwec se sacaze delo pihecet cu losohas cacehas. Etogomie yoni ewic gayu bem peweg tidas ece lawaco. Tule ebipemo mohetod noson ca. Pa giligi yemi doma mitate.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven nils illegitimus carborundum
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Yeah, so it is basically a load of gibberish and not a language.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Yeah, so it is basically a load of gibberish and not a language.
The telling part was... [Glossolalia] consists of strings of syllables, made up of sounds taken from all those that the speaker knows, put together more or less haphazardly ... Why would God's language be limited to using the sounds the speaker already knows? And does that mean that speakers with different first languages and know a different set of sounds speak a different tongue language? I can see it now "What's he saying Pastor?" "oh, that's Mexican tongues" "damn illegals"
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Hit ruge onahit neqew rabum cahoc, li urudus gehages tenare madeli solen citena tutomu me iyego. Ierafap bacoliet ehonier lawece mi maninil. Eherol reguni ne delete tadietew otuninas ribix, sotas udohi sa cot: Tariepar pelabiy nesos irel rose omene elaya gise cutie gor? Epi honisoc ti, sata isarur seteqot let cif sedi dawer. Tiet cienemer he xodeso tolon. Putiroh towelie ro ropi fomil itutem etedare? Ecelen rexulet ra sunema notorut ipoh ucedamif nic; yemem lapa imal. Dare nisasey liedoh. Tisisop asudo tarosok yeyegan atotidie one ilil siponuh cen egepe. Ebim ebini otatesi rid fop bodarat iloco poc! Pare teriwec se sacaze delo pihecet cu losohas cacehas. Etogomie yoni ewic gayu bem peweg tidas ece lawaco. Tule ebipemo mohetod noson ca. Pa giligi yemi doma mitate.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven nils illegitimus carborundum
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Which is what the wiki article Josh linked to said. ie, its not a language. Well spotted though, but a little nala perhaps! :)
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fat_boy wrote:
Which is what the wiki article Josh linked to said. ie, its not a language.
Oh, I didn't even see that.
fat_boy wrote:
Well spotted though, but a little nala perhaps!
A little...nala? :confused:
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fat_boy wrote:
Yeah, so it is basically a load of gibberish and not a language.
The telling part was... [Glossolalia] consists of strings of syllables, made up of sounds taken from all those that the speaker knows, put together more or less haphazardly ... Why would God's language be limited to using the sounds the speaker already knows? And does that mean that speakers with different first languages and know a different set of sounds speak a different tongue language? I can see it now "What's he saying Pastor?" "oh, that's Mexican tongues" "damn illegals"
Josh Gray wrote:
And does that mean that speakers with different first languages and know a different set of sounds speak a different tongue language
Yes.
Josh Gray wrote:
"What's he saying Pastor?" "oh, that's Mexican tongues" "damn illegals"
:)
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription