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  • S soap brain

    What's impressive, in my opinion, is being able to speak in human languages. 'Speaking in tongues' follows no consistent syntax or grammar.

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    Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

    What's impressive, in my opinion, is being able to speak in human languages.

    We have a two year old son who was a bit slow to pick up language but now seems to learn many new words every day. It's an amazing thing to watch him learning to communicate verbally.

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      This[^] is interesting

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      Yeah, so it is basically a load of gibberish and not a language.

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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      • S soap brain

        Please learn how to spell 'tongue'. ;)

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        Yeah, sorry. My English spelling is really fallling apart these days!

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        • S soap brain

          What's impressive, in my opinion, is being able to speak in human languages. 'Speaking in tongues' follows no consistent syntax or grammar.

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          I have always thought that the ability to learn another language ;ater in life is one of the minds most remarkable abilities given that language is so tied to our understanding of the world.

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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            Yeah, sorry. My English spelling is really fallling apart these days!

            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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            You should do what I do and always have a dictionary handy! :)

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              Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

              What's impressive, in my opinion, is being able to speak in human languages.

              We have a two year old son who was a bit slow to pick up language but now seems to learn many new words every day. It's an amazing thing to watch him learning to communicate verbally.

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              Josh Gray wrote:

              It's an amazing thing to watch him learning to communicate verbally.

              And then you'll have to watch it decline again when he reaches adolescence. ;P

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              • S soap brain

                You should do what I do and always have a dictionary handy! :)

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                Too slow, and really beyond caring!

                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                  OK, not naming names here, but it turns out there are some CP members who do. Now I have always found this hysterically funny. How supposedly grown up people can be so self delusional as to make complete idiots out of themselves by gibbering away like this is just so deeply funny. I always associated this behaviour with fairly stupid people. After all stupid peopel are easially duped, but to hear of CP members bragging about 'speaking in toungues' is almost disturbing. How can these people seriously think this is a language spoken by god? OK, so lets assume it is, has anyone got a dictionary? Can anyone trace the etymology of Sanscrit or Hebrew, or anyother ancient language back to 'toungue'? After all, we all did speak this one language way back, or so the Bible says, so any of those older languages would derrive from this common language in the way that most European languages derrive for Sanskrit. So, come on you gibbering religious types, got any proof that you arent completely bonkers? Can you provide a dictionary and if not why not? You make an audible sound, why cant it be represented by any of the 46 or so common phonemes and written down?

                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                  Hit ruge onahit neqew rabum cahoc, li urudus gehages tenare madeli solen citena tutomu me iyego. Ierafap bacoliet ehonier lawece mi maninil. Eherol reguni ne delete tadietew otuninas ribix, sotas udohi sa cot: Tariepar pelabiy nesos irel rose omene elaya gise cutie gor? Epi honisoc ti, sata isarur seteqot let cif sedi dawer. Tiet cienemer he xodeso tolon. Putiroh towelie ro ropi fomil itutem etedare? Ecelen rexulet ra sunema notorut ipoh ucedamif nic; yemem lapa imal. Dare nisasey liedoh. Tisisop asudo tarosok yeyegan atotidie one ilil siponuh cen egepe. Ebim ebini otatesi rid fop bodarat iloco poc! Pare teriwec se sacaze delo pihecet cu losohas cacehas. Etogomie yoni ewic gayu bem peweg tidas ece lawaco. Tule ebipemo mohetod noson ca. Pa giligi yemi doma mitate.

                  me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven nils illegitimus carborundum

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                    Too slow, and really beyond caring!

                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                    soap brain
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                    Use an electronic dictionary/thesaurus. It's brilliant.

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      Hit ruge onahit neqew rabum cahoc, li urudus gehages tenare madeli solen citena tutomu me iyego. Ierafap bacoliet ehonier lawece mi maninil. Eherol reguni ne delete tadietew otuninas ribix, sotas udohi sa cot: Tariepar pelabiy nesos irel rose omene elaya gise cutie gor? Epi honisoc ti, sata isarur seteqot let cif sedi dawer. Tiet cienemer he xodeso tolon. Putiroh towelie ro ropi fomil itutem etedare? Ecelen rexulet ra sunema notorut ipoh ucedamif nic; yemem lapa imal. Dare nisasey liedoh. Tisisop asudo tarosok yeyegan atotidie one ilil siponuh cen egepe. Ebim ebini otatesi rid fop bodarat iloco poc! Pare teriwec se sacaze delo pihecet cu losohas cacehas. Etogomie yoni ewic gayu bem peweg tidas ece lawaco. Tule ebipemo mohetod noson ca. Pa giligi yemi doma mitate.

                      me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven nils illegitimus carborundum

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                      Each word you used exactly once. That's not very consistent with a language.

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                      • S soap brain

                        Use an electronic dictionary/thesaurus. It's brilliant.

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                        The problem is, I am not actually aware I am spelling it wrong!

                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                        • S soap brain

                          Each word you used exactly once. That's not very consistent with a language.

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                          Which is what the wiki article Josh linked to said. ie, its not a language. Well spotted though, but a little nala perhaps! :)

                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                            Hit ruge onahit neqew rabum cahoc, li urudus gehages tenare madeli solen citena tutomu me iyego. Ierafap bacoliet ehonier lawece mi maninil. Eherol reguni ne delete tadietew otuninas ribix, sotas udohi sa cot: Tariepar pelabiy nesos irel rose omene elaya gise cutie gor? Epi honisoc ti, sata isarur seteqot let cif sedi dawer. Tiet cienemer he xodeso tolon. Putiroh towelie ro ropi fomil itutem etedare? Ecelen rexulet ra sunema notorut ipoh ucedamif nic; yemem lapa imal. Dare nisasey liedoh. Tisisop asudo tarosok yeyegan atotidie one ilil siponuh cen egepe. Ebim ebini otatesi rid fop bodarat iloco poc! Pare teriwec se sacaze delo pihecet cu losohas cacehas. Etogomie yoni ewic gayu bem peweg tidas ece lawaco. Tule ebipemo mohetod noson ca. Pa giligi yemi doma mitate.

                            me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven nils illegitimus carborundum

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                            Yeah, defffinitely a shopping list...

                            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                            • L Lost User

                              Yeah, so it is basically a load of gibberish and not a language.

                              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                              fat_boy wrote:

                              Yeah, so it is basically a load of gibberish and not a language.

                              The telling part was... [Glossolalia] consists of strings of syllables, made up of sounds taken from all those that the speaker knows, put together more or less haphazardly ... Why would God's language be limited to using the sounds the speaker already knows? And does that mean that speakers with different first languages and know a different set of sounds speak a different tongue language? I can see it now "What's he saying Pastor?" "oh, that's Mexican tongues" "damn illegals"

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                                Hit ruge onahit neqew rabum cahoc, li urudus gehages tenare madeli solen citena tutomu me iyego. Ierafap bacoliet ehonier lawece mi maninil. Eherol reguni ne delete tadietew otuninas ribix, sotas udohi sa cot: Tariepar pelabiy nesos irel rose omene elaya gise cutie gor? Epi honisoc ti, sata isarur seteqot let cif sedi dawer. Tiet cienemer he xodeso tolon. Putiroh towelie ro ropi fomil itutem etedare? Ecelen rexulet ra sunema notorut ipoh ucedamif nic; yemem lapa imal. Dare nisasey liedoh. Tisisop asudo tarosok yeyegan atotidie one ilil siponuh cen egepe. Ebim ebini otatesi rid fop bodarat iloco poc! Pare teriwec se sacaze delo pihecet cu losohas cacehas. Etogomie yoni ewic gayu bem peweg tidas ece lawaco. Tule ebipemo mohetod noson ca. Pa giligi yemi doma mitate.

                                me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven nils illegitimus carborundum

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                                How did you generate this?

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                                  Which is what the wiki article Josh linked to said. ie, its not a language. Well spotted though, but a little nala perhaps! :)

                                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                  fat_boy wrote:

                                  Which is what the wiki article Josh linked to said. ie, its not a language.

                                  Oh, I didn't even see that.

                                  fat_boy wrote:

                                  Well spotted though, but a little nala perhaps!

                                  A little...nala? :confused:

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                                    fat_boy wrote:

                                    Yeah, so it is basically a load of gibberish and not a language.

                                    The telling part was... [Glossolalia] consists of strings of syllables, made up of sounds taken from all those that the speaker knows, put together more or less haphazardly ... Why would God's language be limited to using the sounds the speaker already knows? And does that mean that speakers with different first languages and know a different set of sounds speak a different tongue language? I can see it now "What's he saying Pastor?" "oh, that's Mexican tongues" "damn illegals"

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                                    Josh Gray wrote:

                                    And does that mean that speakers with different first languages and know a different set of sounds speak a different tongue language

                                    Yes.

                                    Josh Gray wrote:

                                    "What's he saying Pastor?" "oh, that's Mexican tongues" "damn illegals"

                                    :)

                                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                    • S soap brain

                                      fat_boy wrote:

                                      Which is what the wiki article Josh linked to said. ie, its not a language.

                                      Oh, I didn't even see that.

                                      fat_boy wrote:

                                      Well spotted though, but a little nala perhaps!

                                      A little...nala? :confused:

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                                      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                      A little...nala?

                                      Dyslexic fingers. I meant 'anal' :)

                                      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                        OK, not naming names here, but it turns out there are some CP members who do. Now I have always found this hysterically funny. How supposedly grown up people can be so self delusional as to make complete idiots out of themselves by gibbering away like this is just so deeply funny. I always associated this behaviour with fairly stupid people. After all stupid peopel are easially duped, but to hear of CP members bragging about 'speaking in toungues' is almost disturbing. How can these people seriously think this is a language spoken by god? OK, so lets assume it is, has anyone got a dictionary? Can anyone trace the etymology of Sanscrit or Hebrew, or anyother ancient language back to 'toungue'? After all, we all did speak this one language way back, or so the Bible says, so any of those older languages would derrive from this common language in the way that most European languages derrive for Sanskrit. So, come on you gibbering religious types, got any proof that you arent completely bonkers? Can you provide a dictionary and if not why not? You make an audible sound, why cant it be represented by any of the 46 or so common phonemes and written down?

                                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                        'Speaking in tongues' is much like the other languages assosciated with the body, 'Speaking out of your Arse', 'Talking Bollocks' its all the same thing.

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                                          OK, not naming names here, but it turns out there are some CP members who do. Now I have always found this hysterically funny. How supposedly grown up people can be so self delusional as to make complete idiots out of themselves by gibbering away like this is just so deeply funny. I always associated this behaviour with fairly stupid people. After all stupid peopel are easially duped, but to hear of CP members bragging about 'speaking in toungues' is almost disturbing. How can these people seriously think this is a language spoken by god? OK, so lets assume it is, has anyone got a dictionary? Can anyone trace the etymology of Sanscrit or Hebrew, or anyother ancient language back to 'toungue'? After all, we all did speak this one language way back, or so the Bible says, so any of those older languages would derrive from this common language in the way that most European languages derrive for Sanskrit. So, come on you gibbering religious types, got any proof that you arent completely bonkers? Can you provide a dictionary and if not why not? You make an audible sound, why cant it be represented by any of the 46 or so common phonemes and written down?

                                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                          fat_boy wrote:

                                          I always associated this behaviour with fairly stupid people.

                                          No one is so paranoid as to not be to be duped by something in their life. While I have mocked them myself because I found it pretty funny I wouldn't pick an argument just so I could bash them.

                                          fat_boy wrote:

                                          How can these people seriously think this is a language spoken by god?

                                          They have faith and have provided themselves with nonscientific proof.

                                          fat_boy wrote:

                                          So, come on you gibbering religious types, got any proof that you arent completely bonkers? Can you provide a dictionary and if not why not? You make an audible sound, why cant it be represented by any of the 46 or so common phonemes and written down?

                                          Did you only start this thread to be insidiary and combative?

                                          That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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