Watching the world cup as an ice hockey fan...
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No it was during the warm up which is about 20 minutes: 5 minutes of elliptical machine to get the blood flowing followed by about 10 minutes of dynamic and static stretching and 5 minutes staring at the tv in incredulity. :) The actual workout was a gymnastics one today 1 full minute in total each of frog stand, tucked l-sit, tucked lever and pistols. I just started adding gymnastics into the mix and it's brutal stuff even when you think you're in pretty good shape and strong.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
Yeah tell me about it. I can only manage about 10 seconds in a one legged frog stance, trying to work my way up to an air baby. I've been working on pistols for a while now and can only manage them when I'm on a slope. I still need to hold something when I'm on flat ground. I thought you were watching TV while doing Fran or something like that. :)
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Well I couldn't watch the whole thing but I saw about 20 minutes of France Mexico today while I was doing my workout.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
John C wrote:
I saw about 20 minutes of France Mexico
Found yer problem... You missed out, the Germany France game consisted of the French taking the field and then surrendering. thank you, I'm here all week, try the steak.
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John C wrote:
So which is it?
All of the above, but mainly it is trying to game the system, specially when it is closer to the goal.
John C wrote:
Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer,
Many times.
John C wrote:
Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain
Try this for a size. Ask someone to step over your toe with their cleats and see if you can stand the pain. :omg: :wtf: :doh:
Yusuf May I help you?
Yusuf wrote:
Try this for a size. Ask someone to step over your toe with their cleats and see if you can stand the pain
Dude I play ball hockey with several guys well over 240 pounds, I lost both big toenails last fall and they've only just grown back to normal in the last week. I've been hacked on the shins at full strength by players with a hockey stick, no padding, swells up like an egg, we just keep playing. If I was wearing cleats and someone stepped on my toes it would be business as usual. :)
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
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Yeah tell me about it. I can only manage about 10 seconds in a one legged frog stance, trying to work my way up to an air baby. I've been working on pistols for a while now and can only manage them when I'm on a slope. I still need to hold something when I'm on flat ground. I thought you were watching TV while doing Fran or something like that. :)
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
Andy Brummer wrote:
I thought you were watching TV while doing Fran or something like that.
:laugh: Maybe Miko Salo could do that but not me! :) Is one leg the next progression in the frog stand? I thought it was maybe no legs but still tucked in tight, haven't looked it up yet, I'm only at 30 seconds with the legs but they say once you can go a full minute it's time to progress. Pistols are brutal, I've tried everything to get better at them and still go down deep, currently I'm trying the gymnastics thing of negatives where I go as low as I can comfortably then start counting 10 seconds as I lower myself down further as slowly as possible to a short footrest thing on the floor. All things are possible once you have the strength. My wife's frog stands are hilarious, she hasn't got the strength yet so she shakes like crazy for about 5 seconds then falls forward almost on her face every time. She's getting better though. I saw a video once somewhere of a crossfit thing where a guy demonstrated doing a pistol jump, he went down low then leapt up onto a high box with one leg, damned impressive.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
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John C wrote:
Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.
My google-fu is weak today*, but I've seen a picture of a soccer player with his knee bent forward at a 90* angle after something went catastrophically wrong. * writing help documentation rots the brain.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
Yuck! See that's the sort of thing I'd expect to happen by fluke once in a rare while but all in all it seems a relatively safe pastime. I once heard a big argument about whether poker tournament players are athletes and if it's a sport. The one guy's definition of what is a sport that I liked the most was that there has to be some risk of injury before you can really even consider it a sport. Soccer's kind of on the fence for me.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
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Yuck! See that's the sort of thing I'd expect to happen by fluke once in a rare while but all in all it seems a relatively safe pastime. I once heard a big argument about whether poker tournament players are athletes and if it's a sport. The one guy's definition of what is a sport that I liked the most was that there has to be some risk of injury before you can really even consider it a sport. Soccer's kind of on the fence for me.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
John C wrote:
argument about whether poker tournament players are athletes and if it's a sport. The one guy's definition of what is a sport that I liked the most was that there has to be some risk of injury before you can really even consider it a sport.
Ever pay poker in Texas? There's risk of death. ;)
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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Andy Brummer wrote:
I thought you were watching TV while doing Fran or something like that.
:laugh: Maybe Miko Salo could do that but not me! :) Is one leg the next progression in the frog stand? I thought it was maybe no legs but still tucked in tight, haven't looked it up yet, I'm only at 30 seconds with the legs but they say once you can go a full minute it's time to progress. Pistols are brutal, I've tried everything to get better at them and still go down deep, currently I'm trying the gymnastics thing of negatives where I go as low as I can comfortably then start counting 10 seconds as I lower myself down further as slowly as possible to a short footrest thing on the floor. All things are possible once you have the strength. My wife's frog stands are hilarious, she hasn't got the strength yet so she shakes like crazy for about 5 seconds then falls forward almost on her face every time. She's getting better though. I saw a video once somewhere of a crossfit thing where a guy demonstrated doing a pistol jump, he went down low then leapt up onto a high box with one leg, damned impressive.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
This is where I've been doing my progressions with the frog stance frog stance progressions[^] The wrist, shoulder and squat clinic exercises have been really helpful for me as well. I've found the following pistol sequences to be helpful, along with just finding a hill and holding the low pose for as long as I can to build up the strength. pistol variations[^]
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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Yusuf wrote:
Try this for a size. Ask someone to step over your toe with their cleats and see if you can stand the pain
Dude I play ball hockey with several guys well over 240 pounds, I lost both big toenails last fall and they've only just grown back to normal in the last week. I've been hacked on the shins at full strength by players with a hockey stick, no padding, swells up like an egg, we just keep playing. If I was wearing cleats and someone stepped on my toes it would be business as usual. :)
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
John C wrote:
I lost both big toenails last fall and they've only just grown back to normal in the last week
That is a weird feeling isn't it, especially right after they fall off.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
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About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
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About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
I also hate it, but being a soccer fan, i understand it. You may know the rules, but let me go on anyhow... This behavior can be consider foul by the refry and they can be shown a card. But it becomes a gamble since it has advantages. If you are in possession of the ball, and can´t progress on the field, it can give a free kick (this one is obvious) If you are not in possession of the ball, it will give your team a chance to reposition on defense. It can always get the refry to give a card to the opponent. And last, it will give the players a chance to "rest" since 8 out of 11 will have to be there for the 90 minutes. If the game had no pauses, most of them would not handle the 90 minutes making sprints. It sucks because breaks down the game pace, and the fans don´t really care about being tired since we are only lifting some beers :), but it has reason to exist.
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Maybe because they don't carry their own body weight in padding?
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This is where I've been doing my progressions with the frog stance frog stance progressions[^] The wrist, shoulder and squat clinic exercises have been really helpful for me as well. I've found the following pistol sequences to be helpful, along with just finding a hill and holding the low pose for as long as I can to build up the strength. pistol variations[^]
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
Huh, never saw that air baby one before, interesting, this is the page I've been getting my progressions from: http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/229/[^] Interesting, I've never seen those pistol variations or progressions before. What do you mean by finding a hill?
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
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John C wrote:
Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.
My google-fu is weak today*, but I've seen a picture of a soccer player with his knee bent forward at a 90* angle after something went catastrophically wrong. * writing help documentation rots the brain.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
John C wrote:
So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system?
From what I can tell, it mostly trying to take advantage, depends a little where the game is played. It seems, and I could be wrong here, that this is a little more prevalent in Latin America, than in Northern Europe.
John C wrote:
Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.
Define seriously injured. At one of our coed games a couple of years ago a guy broke his leg after running into the keeper, I didn't see how it happened but it was nasty. I sprained my seriously and holy crap did it feel like I was going to pass out, it hurt like hell. Speed is a little relative, in pro soccer those guys are frequently going in an all out sprint, it looks a lot slower on TV than it is in the field. Granted ice hockey is obviously faster, no doubt, but you guys wear all that little girl protection :)
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Yusuf May I help you?
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About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
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About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
I'm enjoying the World Cup but I have to agree that the 'writhing in agony' performances are disgusting. Considering that not all players do it I think that those that do should get an automatic yellow card for their 'performance' if the contact was anything less than substantial. My alternative suggestion is that if a player insists on putting on a show then the opposing player (who's already got a penalty against him) has the right to make good on his efforts and put the boot in properly.
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About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
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About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
