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  • M Member 96

    About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.


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    Maybe because they don't carry their own body weight in padding?

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      About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.


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      youtube David Buust. I have been on the rugby field when a team mate went down with a broken neck, but even that the buust injury is the most horrible thing I have seen.

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      • M Member 96

        About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.


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        I also hate it, but being a soccer fan, i understand it. You may know the rules, but let me go on anyhow... This behavior can be consider foul by the refry and they can be shown a card. But it becomes a gamble since it has advantages. If you are in possession of the ball, and can´t progress on the field, it can give a free kick (this one is obvious) If you are not in possession of the ball, it will give your team a chance to reposition on defense. It can always get the refry to give a card to the opponent. And last, it will give the players a chance to "rest" since 8 out of 11 will have to be there for the 90 minutes. If the game had no pauses, most of them would not handle the 90 minutes making sprints. It sucks because breaks down the game pace, and the fans don´t really care about being tired since we are only lifting some beers :), but it has reason to exist.

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          Maybe because they don't carry their own body weight in padding?

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          Not exactly. :)


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          • A Andy Brummer

            This is where I've been doing my progressions with the frog stance frog stance progressions[^] The wrist, shoulder and squat clinic exercises have been really helpful for me as well. I've found the following pistol sequences to be helpful, along with just finding a hill and holding the low pose for as long as I can to build up the strength. pistol variations[^]

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            Huh, never saw that air baby one before, interesting, this is the page I've been getting my progressions from: http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/229/[^] Interesting, I've never seen those pistol variations or progressions before. What do you mean by finding a hill?


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              John C wrote:

              Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.

              My google-fu is weak today*, but I've seen a picture of a soccer player with his knee bent forward at a 90* angle after something went catastrophically wrong. * writing help documentation rots the brain.

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              Maybe this...

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              • M Member 96

                About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.


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                John C wrote:

                So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system?

                From what I can tell, it mostly trying to take advantage, depends a little where the game is played. It seems, and I could be wrong here, that this is a little more prevalent in Latin America, than in Northern Europe.

                John C wrote:

                Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.

                Define seriously injured. At one of our coed games a couple of years ago a guy broke his leg after running into the keeper, I didn't see how it happened but it was nasty. I sprained my seriously and holy crap did it feel like I was going to pass out, it hurt like hell. Speed is a little relative, in pro soccer those guys are frequently going in an all out sprint, it looks a lot slower on TV than it is in the field. Granted ice hockey is obviously faster, no doubt, but you guys wear all that little girl protection :)

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                  Maybe this...

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                  ouch

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                  • M Member 96

                    About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.


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                    Warning, not for the faint hearted: 12 of the Worst Soccer Injuries of All Times[^]

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                    • M Member 96

                      About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.


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                      Lee Humphries
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                      I'm enjoying the World Cup but I have to agree that the 'writhing in agony' performances are disgusting. Considering that not all players do it I think that those that do should get an automatic yellow card for their 'performance' if the contact was anything less than substantial. My alternative suggestion is that if a player insists on putting on a show then the opposing player (who's already got a penalty against him) has the right to make good on his efforts and put the boot in properly.

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                      • M Member 96

                        About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.


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                        Take a close look at this guys leg.# http://media.photobucket.com/image/david%20buust/willp666/images1399442_David-Busst.jpg[^]

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                        • M Member 96

                          About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.


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                          Soccer is a crap game. Of all the major sports that I'm familiar with soccer is the game where the result is least likely to have any relation to the relative abilities of each team. The World Cup is pretty cool though.

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                            About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.


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                            John C wrote:

                            "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?"

                            Sorry. it just needed repeating.

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                              youtube David Buust. I have been on the rugby field when a team mate went down with a broken neck, but even that the buust injury is the most horrible thing I have seen.

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                              yet rossi will be back at the top level in a couple of months after a similar incident in Italy MotoGP - footy wimps

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                                I also hate it, but being a soccer fan, i understand it. You may know the rules, but let me go on anyhow... This behavior can be consider foul by the refry and they can be shown a card. But it becomes a gamble since it has advantages. If you are in possession of the ball, and can´t progress on the field, it can give a free kick (this one is obvious) If you are not in possession of the ball, it will give your team a chance to reposition on defense. It can always get the refry to give a card to the opponent. And last, it will give the players a chance to "rest" since 8 out of 11 will have to be there for the 90 minutes. If the game had no pauses, most of them would not handle the 90 minutes making sprints. It sucks because breaks down the game pace, and the fans don´t really care about being tired since we are only lifting some beers :), but it has reason to exist.

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                                Please don't ascribe intelligent or rational behaviour to footballers; they don't have the wherewithall.

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                                • M Member 96

                                  About every 5 minutes or less some fool player rolls around on the ground clutching a body part like he's just been shot and the replay shows he was barely touched and all I can think is "what a bunch of pussies, who can stand to see grown men act like that?" followed quickly by "if these guys played hockey they'd be literally dead within a minute or less of the first period if they're that fragile" followed by "they're just trying to game the system though it's an embarrassment to watch". So which is it? Are they really that fragile or are they world class pussies that couldn't work a blue collar job where actual pain is involved or are they just trying to game the system? Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer, I mean it must happen by sheer force of co-incidence but it sure seems unlikely at the slow speed they're traveling and the lack of any blunt objects flying around other than the other players.


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                                  John C wrote:

                                  Has anyone *ever* really been injured seriously playing soccer

                                  One of the best players ever here in Sweden, Henrik Larsson, had a "famous" injury: http://www.extremesportclips.com/video/1547/Henrik-Larsson-Leg-Break.html[^] :omg:

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                                    yet rossi will be back at the top level in a couple of months after a similar incident in Italy MotoGP - footy wimps

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                                    Ooh yeah that was a nasty high side...

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                                      Maybe this...

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                                      Dan Neely
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                                      No. The one I'm thinking of was broken forward/up, not to the side.

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                                        Huh, never saw that air baby one before, interesting, this is the page I've been getting my progressions from: http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/229/[^] Interesting, I've never seen those pistol variations or progressions before. What do you mean by finding a hill?


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                                        Coach Sommer has some great material, I've been meaning to get his book and a set of the rings he sells for a while now. I was active on a forum that he posts on a while ago and he was always very helpful when answering questions.

                                        John C wrote:

                                        Huh, never saw that air baby one before, interesting

                                        It's from a guy that is more geared towards Floreio than traditional gymnastics so there are some different progressions and moves.

                                        John C wrote:

                                        What do you mean by finding a hill?

                                        One of the hard parts about the pistol and squats in general is building up the ankle mobility to do hold the low position. I've found that standing on a slope facing downhill reduces the amount of flexibility required. I just do it for static holds, but I've found it helpful for improving the full flat ground version. I realize that if I did the slopped version as the primary exercise, I'd probably get a muscle imbalance and hurt myself, so I only do it to help with plateaus and the like. I've also been doing static holds in the low position in a 2 foot deep pool when I take my 3 year old to the pool.

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                                          Coach Sommer has some great material, I've been meaning to get his book and a set of the rings he sells for a while now. I was active on a forum that he posts on a while ago and he was always very helpful when answering questions.

                                          John C wrote:

                                          Huh, never saw that air baby one before, interesting

                                          It's from a guy that is more geared towards Floreio than traditional gymnastics so there are some different progressions and moves.

                                          John C wrote:

                                          What do you mean by finding a hill?

                                          One of the hard parts about the pistol and squats in general is building up the ankle mobility to do hold the low position. I've found that standing on a slope facing downhill reduces the amount of flexibility required. I just do it for static holds, but I've found it helpful for improving the full flat ground version. I realize that if I did the slopped version as the primary exercise, I'd probably get a muscle imbalance and hurt myself, so I only do it to help with plateaus and the like. I've also been doing static holds in the low position in a 2 foot deep pool when I take my 3 year old to the pool.

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                                          Andy Brummer wrote:

                                          I've been meaning to get his book and a set of the rings he sells for a while now.

                                          Psst...you know you can buy rings anywhere right? :) I bought a pair for a really good price after hunting around online and they're excellent.

                                          Andy Brummer wrote:

                                          I've found that standing on a slope facing downhill reduces the amount of flexibility required.

                                          Ahh...good idea. I just happen to have a hill in my backyard too!


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