PDF Crap!
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Do you work for Apple?
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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I am not sure where you downloaded Acrobat Reader from but Acrobat Reader 9.3 is just 26.1MB. Also the slow loading is not because PDF is a crappy format but because Adobe Reader loads too many plugin and tried to extract information from the document. -Saurabh
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mirano wrote:
and saw that its internal organization is really crappy, and seems like out of the line at least.
I've dealt with PDFs in C as well, personally while I do not like Adobe Reader all too much, I don't think PDFs are nearly as bad as you're making them. And, before you completely dismiss the PDF format you should be aware some of the design considerations are done for performance reasons. Adobe Reader is not PDF and vice-versa, and Adobe Reader is no reason to get all worked up over anyway.
Jeremy Falcon
Good point, Jeremy. Now what I don't understand is that since this format is nothing special and it is closed, when it comes to code, why shouldn't we use some of the open source solutions based on the standards, such as XPS, DejaVu....there are numbers of them. We are only talking about simple plain documents here, right? I believe this was one of those marketing issues, they just took the market and everybody have it now and it would be easy to ditch this in favour for something else, even if it's better.
Sarajevo, Bosnia
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Here's something you should try: 1. Buy the full version of Adobe acrobat (around 300 euros). 2. Install it (if you have enough disc space). 3. Hunt down and disable all the "call home" cr@p (they are the sneakiest b@st@rds in the world, when it comes to that -- log in as admin, and take a second look at the registry entries) 4. Double-click the icon to open Acrobat. 5. Go for a coffee, while it opens. 6. Make that two coffees. 7. Maybe a doughnut. 8. Look at the stunningly beautiful and intuitive user interface of the program. 9. Click "File". 10. Click "New". The utter uselessness of Acrobat never fails to amaze me.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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mirano wrote:
1.6 Gb Adobe Acrobat Reader
Are you sure you didn't just torrent Adobe Acrobat?
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One can hate Adobe and hate Apple, trust me. Adobe takes bloat to levels MS can only dream of. All those PDF readers that were linked below are better than the version made by the people that should know the standard the best. That is a sad state.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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Are you having a bad day?
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't use PL/1. PL/1 is for insecure momma's boys who can't choose between COBOL and Fortran.
I did not post this when I was going berserk about pdf (that happened 2 years ago while I was actually working on it), but this time I have layed out a few simple arguments in support of my position. So please feel free to discuss it, if you wish, my state of mood certainly not being the objective of this discussion. Thank you.
Sarajevo, Bosnia
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Why would I do that? Acrobat Reader is only for reading PDF files? Am I missing something? -Saurabh
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Good point, Jeremy. Now what I don't understand is that since this format is nothing special and it is closed, when it comes to code, why shouldn't we use some of the open source solutions based on the standards, such as XPS, DejaVu....there are numbers of them. We are only talking about simple plain documents here, right? I believe this was one of those marketing issues, they just took the market and everybody have it now and it would be easy to ditch this in favour for something else, even if it's better.
Sarajevo, Bosnia
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Why would I do that when I'm happy with the small, fast and efficient Foxit and SumatraPDF?