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    Christian Graus
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    So, I'm working on something for the iPad. I need to get some images in to my assembly. They are not showing up in the app, and based on past experience, I can't tell if that's because the app almost never updates in the emulator when you do a build, or if something else is wrong. It's an exercise in frustration. I think I worked it out. You can set your active executable and your active build. So I was building one version and deploying the other. Not sure how that makes sense....

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      So, I'm working on something for the iPad. I need to get some images in to my assembly. They are not showing up in the app, and based on past experience, I can't tell if that's because the app almost never updates in the emulator when you do a build, or if something else is wrong. It's an exercise in frustration. I think I worked it out. You can set your active executable and your active build. So I was building one version and deploying the other. Not sure how that makes sense....

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      Vikram A Punathambekar
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      Change your sig to

      Driven to the nourishing bosom of Visual Studio by XCode.

      :-\

      Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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        Driven to the nourishing bosom of Visual Studio by XCode.

        :-\

        Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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        Brady Kelly
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        :laugh: VS 2010 rocks my world. :thumbsup: I'm sure an inventive entreprenuer could use a 'square-peg hammer' to get XCode into VS.

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        • C Christian Graus

          So, I'm working on something for the iPad. I need to get some images in to my assembly. They are not showing up in the app, and based on past experience, I can't tell if that's because the app almost never updates in the emulator when you do a build, or if something else is wrong. It's an exercise in frustration. I think I worked it out. You can set your active executable and your active build. So I was building one version and deploying the other. Not sure how that makes sense....

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          peterchen
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          As in Visual Studio (and every other decent IDE), when you are building an DLL project you can specify a different executable to be debugged?

          Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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          • V Vikram A Punathambekar

            Change your sig to

            Driven to the nourishing bosom of Visual Studio by XCode.

            :-\

            Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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            Rajesh R Subramanian
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            :laugh:

            It's time for a new sig. Seriously.

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            • C Christian Graus

              So, I'm working on something for the iPad. I need to get some images in to my assembly. They are not showing up in the app, and based on past experience, I can't tell if that's because the app almost never updates in the emulator when you do a build, or if something else is wrong. It's an exercise in frustration. I think I worked it out. You can set your active executable and your active build. So I was building one version and deploying the other. Not sure how that makes sense....

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              Henrik Husted
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              Yep, happens for me all the time. I usually just clean build (not the precompiled headers, remove the check marks in the clean dialog) and everything is back to normal. I'm still fighting to get used to the editor, I'm having a hard time to learn the key mappings.

              --- There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                As in Visual Studio (and every other decent IDE), when you are building an DLL project you can specify a different executable to be debugged?

                Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
                | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server.

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                Christian Graus
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                Why do I need to set the option in two places, every time I set it ? In VS, I would have my debug settings, and inside that, set what to run for the debug build.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  Yep, happens for me all the time. I usually just clean build (not the precompiled headers, remove the check marks in the clean dialog) and everything is back to normal. I'm still fighting to get used to the editor, I'm having a hard time to learn the key mappings.

                  --- There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  The basic issue is that compared to VS, things like the debugger just plain suck. Don't get me started on how XCode opens window after window and you end up having trouble figuring out which window has the bit you want to use. Then there's Objective C, C++'s retarded half brother. And the seperate tool for creating UIs, which is also far more complex than it needs to be.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Why do I need to set the option in two places, every time I set it ? In VS, I would have my debug settings, and inside that, set what to run for the debug build.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    peterchen
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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    Why do I need to set the option in two places, every time I set it ?

                    Because only Visual Studio truly loves you.

                    Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
                    | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server.

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                    • B Brady Kelly

                      :laugh: VS 2010 rocks my world. :thumbsup: I'm sure an inventive entreprenuer could use a 'square-peg hammer' to get XCode into VS.

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                      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                      You wouldn't say that if you'd had to work with its innards.

                      Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                        The basic issue is that compared to VS, things like the debugger just plain suck. Don't get me started on how XCode opens window after window and you end up having trouble figuring out which window has the bit you want to use. Then there's Objective C, C++'s retarded half brother. And the seperate tool for creating UIs, which is also far more complex than it needs to be.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        CPallini
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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        Then there's Objective C, C++'s retarded half brother.

                        :laugh:

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                        • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                          You wouldn't say that if you'd had to work with its innards.

                          Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                          Brady Kelly
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                          I've never had to work with its innards, but I have on a few occassions tried anyway. :~ Uglier than a baoon's arse. However, I believe 2010 is at least a small bit prettier.

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                            The basic issue is that compared to VS, things like the debugger just plain suck. Don't get me started on how XCode opens window after window and you end up having trouble figuring out which window has the bit you want to use. Then there's Objective C, C++'s retarded half brother. And the seperate tool for creating UIs, which is also far more complex than it needs to be.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            Henrik Husted
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                            Opens multiple windows? You have enabled the embedded editor? Then there's one editor window which I don't find too bad. The one thing that bugs me more than anything at the moment is PageUp and PageDown. Why doesn't the caret move as well?!? Grrr!!! :mad: I'm better now. Oh, and create your UI's manually and skip interface builder. You'll thank me later :)

                            --- There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                              You wouldn't say that if you'd had to work with its innards.

                              Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                              Gary Wheeler
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                              I've looked :suss:. Sort of like a cardiologist forced to go in rectally.

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                                I've never had to work with its innards, but I have on a few occassions tried anyway. :~ Uglier than a baoon's arse. However, I believe 2010 is at least a small bit prettier.

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                                Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                The VS2010 automation interfaces are quite thoroughly broken in key areas. It's like VS2005 all over again (in fact, one of the bugs I found yesterday was one which was also present in VS2005 but had been fixed in VS2008. That's just poor quality control, IMHO). Most of those regressions seem to be due to MS trying to "pretty" it up by replacing the code editor with a WPF implementation (whcih coincidentally makes the thing even most sluggish and less responsive than it's predecessor, for very littel gian). Between that and the new .vcxproj file format I've been quite happy to throw the bl**dy thing at the nearest wall since the abortion which was VS2010 Beta 1. Even MS have acknowledged that it's "not finished, but we're shipping it anyway".

                                Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                                  The basic issue is that compared to VS, things like the debugger just plain suck. Don't get me started on how XCode opens window after window and you end up having trouble figuring out which window has the bit you want to use. Then there's Objective C, C++'s retarded half brother. And the seperate tool for creating UIs, which is also far more complex than it needs to be.

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  Stuart Dootson
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                                  XCode 4 may be an improvement[^] - it's meant to offer a single-window environment, a new debugger based on work that's been done with LLVM (so it's not GDB *AT ALL*)...

                                  Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!

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                                  • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                                    The VS2010 automation interfaces are quite thoroughly broken in key areas. It's like VS2005 all over again (in fact, one of the bugs I found yesterday was one which was also present in VS2005 but had been fixed in VS2008. That's just poor quality control, IMHO). Most of those regressions seem to be due to MS trying to "pretty" it up by replacing the code editor with a WPF implementation (whcih coincidentally makes the thing even most sluggish and less responsive than it's predecessor, for very littel gian). Between that and the new .vcxproj file format I've been quite happy to throw the bl**dy thing at the nearest wall since the abortion which was VS2010 Beta 1. Even MS have acknowledged that it's "not finished, but we're shipping it anyway".

                                    Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                                    Brady Kelly
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                                    I do that. :-O using 80/20, and because I don't write embedded code. Most VS users don't need extensions, but just a standard IDE, and the 'plain' 2010 IDE features of 2010 really do outweigh the extensibility.

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                                      I've looked :suss:. Sort of like a cardiologist forced to go in rectally.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                      Yep, that about sums it up.

                                      Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                                        So, I'm working on something for the iPad. I need to get some images in to my assembly. They are not showing up in the app, and based on past experience, I can't tell if that's because the app almost never updates in the emulator when you do a build, or if something else is wrong. It's an exercise in frustration. I think I worked it out. You can set your active executable and your active build. So I was building one version and deploying the other. Not sure how that makes sense....

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        Sounds like an opportunity for leppie here. ixacc has a nice ring to it.

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                                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                          Change your sig to

                                          Driven to the nourishing bosom of Visual Studio by XCode.

                                          :-\

                                          Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                          Driven to the nourishing bosom of Visual Studio by XCode

                                          I don't want nourishing bosoms, I want the other kind.

                                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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