My Ignorance
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You realize, I suppose, that the news we get here is badly slanted? We not only have no idea what our leaders are doing in the world on our behalf, but we also get no news about what the rest of the world thinks of it. If you're like most people here, you see only what the Liberal media want you to see. You have to work a bit harder to see the whole story. I think I can safely say that 99.5% don't bother, but instead base their opinions on the liberal pap handed out by CNN or their equivalent local newsfeed. "When in danger, fear, or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!" - Lorelei and Lapis Lazuli Long
Roger, you need to move out of the 1980s. There's no such thing as a "liberal media" anymore. It's now corporate media. General Electric owns NBC, Disney owns ABC, TimeWarner owns CNN. News reports now favor what is good for the corporate parent, not a particular political slant. NBC reports favor war with Iraq because GE is a big defense contractor. ABC likes happy thoughts and light fluff because that's what gets people to DisneyWorldLand. Since CNN is owned by conservative stalwart Time-Warner, their reporting on Israel and other hot topics is now slanted. I wish there were still at least one liberal media outlet but there are none.
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The US is attempting to take over Australia by flooding us with US popular culture. :P Look up words like 'Castro' and 'Iran-Contra' in google, should give you heaps of info. Or Vietnam combined with the name of the puppet ruler the US set up in the south, which escapes me. But be sure to also look up the Marshall Plan and to realise that while the US has done a lot of bad, it has done a lot of good also. The bad that it does is usually well intentioned, which is no excuse, but the point, certainly of my comments, is to provide balance, and the fact is that while the US has little regard for the wishes of other countries, it's also true that the intention is generally good, and sometimes a LOT of good is done by the USA. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: 'Castro' and 'Iran-Contra' in google, should give you heaps of info. Or Vietnam I was thinking less publicized events, but now that you mention it, I really only have a passing knowledge about these too. :suss: BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
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Paul Watson wrote: I can never state actual events or facts which condem the US, How about economic backing for the ruling white class during Apartheid? I think it might have been Kissinger who said that the elite whites were there to stay, and would be the only method through which any change could happen. It's alot more than a vague uneasiness that there is a country that has alot of power that is essentially unchecked. There are places this government has screwed up or made bad decisions. Whether we act(Bosnia) or not(Rwanda) there are consequences and judgements made. I think there are two overriding US concerns when the US makes a move. 1- What is best for us? and can we work a deal to get it? 2- There is no immediate interest there for us, so can we justify tax dollars and possibly American lives? Paul Watson wrote: We hate ourselves for being so submissive to the US. So how do begin to change the relationship? You don't really hate your brother, per se, but he's become so successful his influence is aways there. The problem is you can't leave the house. (is this about right?) Paul Watson wrote: Countries should be able to make their own decisions on their own steam, not the steam of the US. There's a book called "7 habits of highly Effective People", which talks about this on a personal level. You can not allow the actions or reactions of others influence how you behave, or make decisions. Or I suppose Polonius said it too: "To thine own self be true". Can this be extended somehow to a national level? Do we have to apply reactionary politics to everything? Paul Watson wrote: We might as well just all stand up and start singing the US anthem, because sovereign countries we are not. Just don't lose the flags and the different languages. It's so funny to hear people jabber in their native tongues, and see them uselessly proudly wave their little flags. ;);P I don't know what the hell to do about any of it. Getting a couple of posts or emails doesn't solve a damn thing. Ah well, I still need to get some work done....... BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
brianwelsch wrote: Whether we act(Bosnia) or not(Rwanda) there are consequences and judgements made. That I am with the US on. You guys are damned if you do and damned if you don't, which is wrong. The rest of the world should not look to the US to solve it's un-US-related problems and it should not bitch when the US does nothing. If Rawanda goes to hell in a hand basket, why should we then yell at the US for not having done anything? It is part of that whole African psychique towards the west. We demand aid one day and then point fingers at the west for having ruined Africa. Hypocrites, it really angers me that my leaders do this. brianwelsch wrote: You don't really hate your brother, per se, but he's become so successful his influence is aways there. The problem is you can't leave the house. (is this about right?) Not quite. First I don't have a brother, and if I did, I would be the successful one... ;P Ok seriously though. The difference between this succesful brother thing and the US rest of world thing is that the successful brother does not use his success as leverage, or at least he shouldn't. If he does then he is a shitty brother. To us, what US does is, whether actively or passively, use their power to influence everything they can. They don't like the guy who looks like he is going to win the Timbuktu elections... they then drop a few hints and Timbuktu finds a reason to kick the guy out of the election race. It does happen even if the US has no idea they are doing it (obviously there are the psycho countries that just ignore the US in their elections but that then ends up in a regime change...) As I said, the US does not even have to bare it's fangs, all it has to do is shift one eyeball in the general direction of the country. As you said up above, the US meddles in things that maybe it really shouldn't. brianwelsch wrote: You can not allow the actions or reactions of others influence how you behave, or make decisions. Or I suppose Polonius said it too: "To thine own self be true". Can this be extended somehow to a national level? Do we have to apply reactionary politics to everything? I guess we do when the alternative is regime change. "This guy is pretty radical, but he will be good for the country I think... Oh wait, I just read that Bush has this guy on his Not Nice People list... better not let him get into power then or the commandos will be banging on our doors in a years ti
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brianwelsch wrote: Whether we act(Bosnia) or not(Rwanda) there are consequences and judgements made. That I am with the US on. You guys are damned if you do and damned if you don't, which is wrong. The rest of the world should not look to the US to solve it's un-US-related problems and it should not bitch when the US does nothing. If Rawanda goes to hell in a hand basket, why should we then yell at the US for not having done anything? It is part of that whole African psychique towards the west. We demand aid one day and then point fingers at the west for having ruined Africa. Hypocrites, it really angers me that my leaders do this. brianwelsch wrote: You don't really hate your brother, per se, but he's become so successful his influence is aways there. The problem is you can't leave the house. (is this about right?) Not quite. First I don't have a brother, and if I did, I would be the successful one... ;P Ok seriously though. The difference between this succesful brother thing and the US rest of world thing is that the successful brother does not use his success as leverage, or at least he shouldn't. If he does then he is a shitty brother. To us, what US does is, whether actively or passively, use their power to influence everything they can. They don't like the guy who looks like he is going to win the Timbuktu elections... they then drop a few hints and Timbuktu finds a reason to kick the guy out of the election race. It does happen even if the US has no idea they are doing it (obviously there are the psycho countries that just ignore the US in their elections but that then ends up in a regime change...) As I said, the US does not even have to bare it's fangs, all it has to do is shift one eyeball in the general direction of the country. As you said up above, the US meddles in things that maybe it really shouldn't. brianwelsch wrote: You can not allow the actions or reactions of others influence how you behave, or make decisions. Or I suppose Polonius said it too: "To thine own self be true". Can this be extended somehow to a national level? Do we have to apply reactionary politics to everything? I guess we do when the alternative is regime change. "This guy is pretty radical, but he will be good for the country I think... Oh wait, I just read that Bush has this guy on his Not Nice People list... better not let him get into power then or the commandos will be banging on our doors in a years ti
Paul Watson wrote: Better than not thinking about it. Rather hammer futiley at the locked door than just sit and ignore it. Obviously finding a way to get through the locked door would be even better though. Well said. Shog9 ------
Rather hammer futiley at the locked door than just sit and ignore it. Obviously finding a way to get through the locked door would be even better though.- Paul Watson, My Ignorance
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brianwelsch wrote: Whether we act(Bosnia) or not(Rwanda) there are consequences and judgements made. That I am with the US on. You guys are damned if you do and damned if you don't, which is wrong. The rest of the world should not look to the US to solve it's un-US-related problems and it should not bitch when the US does nothing. If Rawanda goes to hell in a hand basket, why should we then yell at the US for not having done anything? It is part of that whole African psychique towards the west. We demand aid one day and then point fingers at the west for having ruined Africa. Hypocrites, it really angers me that my leaders do this. brianwelsch wrote: You don't really hate your brother, per se, but he's become so successful his influence is aways there. The problem is you can't leave the house. (is this about right?) Not quite. First I don't have a brother, and if I did, I would be the successful one... ;P Ok seriously though. The difference between this succesful brother thing and the US rest of world thing is that the successful brother does not use his success as leverage, or at least he shouldn't. If he does then he is a shitty brother. To us, what US does is, whether actively or passively, use their power to influence everything they can. They don't like the guy who looks like he is going to win the Timbuktu elections... they then drop a few hints and Timbuktu finds a reason to kick the guy out of the election race. It does happen even if the US has no idea they are doing it (obviously there are the psycho countries that just ignore the US in their elections but that then ends up in a regime change...) As I said, the US does not even have to bare it's fangs, all it has to do is shift one eyeball in the general direction of the country. As you said up above, the US meddles in things that maybe it really shouldn't. brianwelsch wrote: You can not allow the actions or reactions of others influence how you behave, or make decisions. Or I suppose Polonius said it too: "To thine own self be true". Can this be extended somehow to a national level? Do we have to apply reactionary politics to everything? I guess we do when the alternative is regime change. "This guy is pretty radical, but he will be good for the country I think... Oh wait, I just read that Bush has this guy on his Not Nice People list... better not let him get into power then or the commandos will be banging on our doors in a years ti
Paul Watson wrote: There is a need to police though, but that must come from some global organisation, with more than just one country being represented. Paul Watson wrote: Or rather if the 7 habits idea was to be used, then the concepts of nations would have to change and become less rigid. This is really more what I was thinking. Hopefully, down the road, we can realistically begin talking about a world government. Imagine if all the production world-wide now geared towards military, could to a large part be geared towards useful things. Paul Watson wrote: You get it? Yes. I see a website possiblity here. Global discussions of world issues with links and articles regarding international history and current events. Without more citizens discussing this, not a damn things going to change. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
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Paul Watson wrote: There is a need to police though, but that must come from some global organisation, with more than just one country being represented. Paul Watson wrote: Or rather if the 7 habits idea was to be used, then the concepts of nations would have to change and become less rigid. This is really more what I was thinking. Hopefully, down the road, we can realistically begin talking about a world government. Imagine if all the production world-wide now geared towards military, could to a large part be geared towards useful things. Paul Watson wrote: You get it? Yes. I see a website possiblity here. Global discussions of world issues with links and articles regarding international history and current events. Without more citizens discussing this, not a damn things going to change. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
brianwelsch wrote: I see a website possiblity here. Global discussions of world issues with links and articles regarding international history and current events. Is TheFence.com[^] what you are thinking about? I signed up and all but I just found I could not get into it. I like the way it works here on CP because we are real people with real jobs doing real work and we just happen to also be interested in global affairs and philisophical ideas. Maybe if I gave TheFence.com a better go at it I would get into it though :)
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Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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brianwelsch wrote: I see a website possiblity here. Global discussions of world issues with links and articles regarding international history and current events. Is TheFence.com[^] what you are thinking about? I signed up and all but I just found I could not get into it. I like the way it works here on CP because we are real people with real jobs doing real work and we just happen to also be interested in global affairs and philisophical ideas. Maybe if I gave TheFence.com a better go at it I would get into it though :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: TheFence.com[^] I'll take a closer look, but I'm not sure it's quite what I'm thinking. I'd rather something a bit more positive. :) BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
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I guess when some jerks burn a US flag in a crud country it can make news in the US. But most of the places I have visited in the world seem amblivient to the USA. However unfortunatly there own media slants stuff bad against the USA. I was in Central America when the LA riots broke out, and the news media made it appear the racist white Americans had oppressed the blacks to the point of explosion. No mention was made of the Korean issue at the time. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
Colin Davies wrote: when the LA riots broke out Which riots? (Seriously...) -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"
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Paul Watson wrote: TheFence.com[^] I'll take a closer look, but I'm not sure it's quite what I'm thinking. I'd rather something a bit more positive. :) BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
brianwelsch wrote: I'd rather something a bit more positive. Ahh good point :) You want a well meaning, "goal in mind" discussion site. Something with positive and well informed discussions but which does not just become an endless blizzard of discussions. Generally the world organisation sites are depressingly single minded and the non-affiliated sites are depressingly pesimistic. Either everything is hunky dory (but we still need your donations so phone now!) or everything is in a hand basket on the fast checkout lane down in hell.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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brianwelsch wrote: I'd rather something a bit more positive. Ahh good point :) You want a well meaning, "goal in mind" discussion site. Something with positive and well informed discussions but which does not just become an endless blizzard of discussions. Generally the world organisation sites are depressingly single minded and the non-affiliated sites are depressingly pesimistic. Either everything is hunky dory (but we still need your donations so phone now!) or everything is in a hand basket on the fast checkout lane down in hell.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: Something with positive and well informed discussions but which does not just become an endless blizzard of discussions. Sounds crazy, huh? It's obviously impossible to not have meaningless flames and passionate patriotic nonsense be spewed, but overall, yes I'm thinking of a place for reasonable people to discuss just exactly what the hell is going in the world, and how could we possibly make it a bit better. The big flaw with this is people with no internet connection still are left out of the discussion, but you can't reach everyone. Paul Watson wrote: Either everything is hunky dory (but we still need your donations so phone now!) :laugh: "..and after my Filet Mignon and Lobster dinner, I go and video the starving children of the village. See how depressing, you must send your donations immediately. We will be sure that at least 5% of your generous donation makes it to helping the children. Thank You and God Bless." BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
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Yep, it is largely a case of sour grapes, coupled with a feeling of frustration that the citizens of this super-country are largely so ignorant of the rest of us. I suppose we feel that with the power goes responsibility (not trying to sound like spiderman :-O )
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Megan Forbes wrote: ... feeling of frustration that the citizens of this super-country are largely so ignorant of the rest of us. Which is why I say it's a good thing for Americans to spend some time outside of the U.S. Join the military, get stationed overseas. Take part in a foreign exchange program, etc. I lived in Frankfurt, Germany for 2 years. You get to see things from a different perspective. I found that there were many things Germany excelled in over the U.S. (Public Health care, maternity leave, road construction technology and materials, etc. although at the expense of an extremely high income tax rate and a 14% federal sales tax.) At the same time however, I found that the U.S. was *much* better in some areas. The point is that we are *not* the best in everything. -Sean ---- Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein. I saw a woman wearing a sweatshirt with 'Guess' on it. I said, "Thyroid problem?" -- Emo Philips. Love is two minutes, 52 seconds of squishing noises. -- Johnny Rotten.
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Colin Davies wrote: when the LA riots broke out Which riots? (Seriously...) -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"
LA riots: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22LA+riots%22
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I must admit to my general ignorance in US foreign policy. Visiting CP over the past few months has indeed opened my eyes to many things which I'm desperately trying to learn about and digest. It has become very apparent that nearly everyone has an opinion of the US, and watches our moves with a suspicious eye. In trying to understand this situation better, and develop my own more educated views, I'd like to ask some help. Not only would it take forever for me to Google about looking for tidbits, but I'd like some real feedback from people. So I would be extremely grateful if CPians could relate information to me regarding US policy in their own country. Anything is fair game, good or bad. Replying here is fine, or you can send it personally to brian.welsch@greenvillearea.net[^] Thanks for your help. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
Hey Folks, I have a bit of a thought on this and, hope it is not too far off. First let me preface this by saying that my first position upon graduating collage required me to travel about 300 days a year outside of the US. I did this for almost four and a half years. I have spent considerable time in the South Pacific, Western Europe, Israel, and SE Asia. And believe me, I loved it. To me, the possible root of the problems is that many of us here in the US don't see ourselves as a part of the world community. And, I believe that this may stem from the fact that many of us don't travel much outside the states. I know that many young military people are required to travel. But, these guys aren't often the best ambassadors of our country. Having seen many of these boys in action in South Korea and Japan I am reminded of the phrase "Young dumb and full of cum." And sure, many young, well to do collage kids "backpack" through Europe, but somehow I don't think living la'bohem for 3 months really does enough to gain a sense of community. And of course, we can't forget the occasional tourist. While not a bad thing, many of the folks do nothing to research local customs and lifestyles. And, are often guilty of eating at the god forsaken Hard Rock Café. Unfortunately, I don't have a solution to offer. :( But, somehow Americans need to get out and interact with the rest of the world. Not as customers/consumers but as someone who just wants to enjoy what the rest of the world has to offer. To me, this seems like the real long term solution. Personally, my family continues to vacation outside the US(just got back from Peru :)). Just my opinion Chris Austin
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Hey Folks, I have a bit of a thought on this and, hope it is not too far off. First let me preface this by saying that my first position upon graduating collage required me to travel about 300 days a year outside of the US. I did this for almost four and a half years. I have spent considerable time in the South Pacific, Western Europe, Israel, and SE Asia. And believe me, I loved it. To me, the possible root of the problems is that many of us here in the US don't see ourselves as a part of the world community. And, I believe that this may stem from the fact that many of us don't travel much outside the states. I know that many young military people are required to travel. But, these guys aren't often the best ambassadors of our country. Having seen many of these boys in action in South Korea and Japan I am reminded of the phrase "Young dumb and full of cum." And sure, many young, well to do collage kids "backpack" through Europe, but somehow I don't think living la'bohem for 3 months really does enough to gain a sense of community. And of course, we can't forget the occasional tourist. While not a bad thing, many of the folks do nothing to research local customs and lifestyles. And, are often guilty of eating at the god forsaken Hard Rock Café. Unfortunately, I don't have a solution to offer. :( But, somehow Americans need to get out and interact with the rest of the world. Not as customers/consumers but as someone who just wants to enjoy what the rest of the world has to offer. To me, this seems like the real long term solution. Personally, my family continues to vacation outside the US(just got back from Peru :)). Just my opinion Chris Austin
I'm sure I read somewhere that less than 10% of Americans actually have a passport! Certainly in my travels in the US I have got the impression that it is quite an insular country. Mind you, it is also a vast country of ~300 million people, so that's hardly surprising!
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Brian, When you find some issue make every effort to respond politely and leave room for an honest friendly answer. There are several members who will give you an honest and usually friendly response to what you are saying. Do not take offence (at least most of the time) to others miss reading your sentences. Those in the US do use a lot of slang that is read differently by others. Just my 2 cents for part one. I have had the fortune to have several others on this list spend the time to educate me on how they look at issues. Often taking 4 or 5 round trips before we agree on what we are saying. To all of them a BIG thank you from me. For recent events, the biggest issue that I find is the feeling that the US is not accountable to anyone but the US. Now even though I do not feel this way it is enough of a common feeling that I think the US should do more to address this. I have begun a letter to my leadership to point this out. If nothing else we can show that we do hold our country accountable.
the biggest issue that I find is the feeling that the US is not accountable to anyone but the US I think that's what bothers me most. It's as if your local police force was given free reign to do what they like without due process or obtaining warrents. While it might clean up some crime, it's going to get out of hand without the proper checks and balances. (ie: vigilates)
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I'm sure I read somewhere that less than 10% of Americans actually have a passport! Certainly in my travels in the US I have got the impression that it is quite an insular country. Mind you, it is also a vast country of ~300 million people, so that's hardly surprising!
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: I'm sure I read somewhere that less than 10% of Americans actually have a passport! I don't know about this number but, I wouldn't be suprised. Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: Certainly in my travels in the US I have got the impression that it is quite an insular country. Mind you, it is also a vast country of ~300 million people, so that's hardly surprising! On thing I find interesting about this is that many Americans rarely see it all. Often people find a favorite spot and spend *every* vacation there. Personaly, I'd like to visit as much of the US as I can but, I am saving that untill my wife and I have small children. Until then, we plan to travel abroad. A possible reason for lack of Americans abroad may "simply" be the labor laws in the US. It is often the case where professionals are "discouraged" from taking long vacations. And, the local & federal goverments will noting to discourage this abuse. I have experianced this first hand, where I had to quit a very good paying job because they refused to aprove 3 weeks off for my wedding and honeymoon. Damn!!!...
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LA riots: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22LA+riots%22
Know Jesus, no peace. No Jesus, know peace.
Thats them :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
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Hey Folks, I have a bit of a thought on this and, hope it is not too far off. First let me preface this by saying that my first position upon graduating collage required me to travel about 300 days a year outside of the US. I did this for almost four and a half years. I have spent considerable time in the South Pacific, Western Europe, Israel, and SE Asia. And believe me, I loved it. To me, the possible root of the problems is that many of us here in the US don't see ourselves as a part of the world community. And, I believe that this may stem from the fact that many of us don't travel much outside the states. I know that many young military people are required to travel. But, these guys aren't often the best ambassadors of our country. Having seen many of these boys in action in South Korea and Japan I am reminded of the phrase "Young dumb and full of cum." And sure, many young, well to do collage kids "backpack" through Europe, but somehow I don't think living la'bohem for 3 months really does enough to gain a sense of community. And of course, we can't forget the occasional tourist. While not a bad thing, many of the folks do nothing to research local customs and lifestyles. And, are often guilty of eating at the god forsaken Hard Rock Café. Unfortunately, I don't have a solution to offer. :( But, somehow Americans need to get out and interact with the rest of the world. Not as customers/consumers but as someone who just wants to enjoy what the rest of the world has to offer. To me, this seems like the real long term solution. Personally, my family continues to vacation outside the US(just got back from Peru :)). Just my opinion Chris Austin
I Like your Post, and agree with your observations. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
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Paul Watson wrote: There is a need to police though, but that must come from some global organisation, with more than just one country being represented. Paul Watson wrote: Or rather if the 7 habits idea was to be used, then the concepts of nations would have to change and become less rigid. This is really more what I was thinking. Hopefully, down the road, we can realistically begin talking about a world government. Imagine if all the production world-wide now geared towards military, could to a large part be geared towards useful things. Paul Watson wrote: You get it? Yes. I see a website possiblity here. Global discussions of world issues with links and articles regarding international history and current events. Without more citizens discussing this, not a damn things going to change. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
If you ever start such a website and need more people, you can count me in.
Regards,Rohit Sinha
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If you ever start such a website and need more people, you can count me in.
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Rohit Sinha wrote: you can count me in. :cool: BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson