Crop Circles
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All the evidence I've seen shows that crop circles can be made by humans; nothing proves that all of them have been. It seems a pretty harmless belief to me, and one that the kids will one day be able to decide whether follow or not without anyone's help. Everybody needs to believe in something - better little green men with nothing better to do than draw pictures in cornfields than racial genocide. There are degrees of goofiness... After all, I was raised to believe in a man who supposedly rose from the dead after three days, but there's no tangible proof that he was ever born. It hasn't hurt me a bit, and I still choose to believe the myth... To quote another fictitious character, a favorite of mine, "One man's religion is another man's belly laugh." I believe I'll have another beer...
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Found out the other day that my son's teacher's assistant (let's call her Anne) has gone on hols for four weeks to the UK, so he has a substitute teacher for four weeks. Fair enough. The email informing us then went on to say that, if we wished to subscribe to Anne's email newsletter about crop circles, to contact her. The Wife(tm) tells me that she (Anne) is a crop circle 'fan' and believes in their healing powers, amongst other things. I was both astonished and horrified. Surely Crop circles are completely proven to be man-made? People making them have filmed themselves, and shown how it was done? How can a sane person believe in their mystical powers?? And she's teaching my Boy! The Wife(tm) did point out that it's only like being taught by someone who's Catholic (for example) - fine as long as they don't preach to the kids. But I'm still kinda concerned that someone who (IMHO) is close to being certifiable is allowed to be in charge of children! your thoughts?
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It never ceases to amaze me what 'intelligent' people sometimes believe.
_Maxxx_ wrote:
it's only like being taught by someone who's Catholic
The Lounge isn't a place for religion BUT seeing leaders of countries practicing their religious beliefs, often preaching them and regularly being commended because of them - as a devout atheist I find quite disturbing. Disclaimer: Each to their own, I'm not anti-religion! If it works for you then great :thumbsup:
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
But I'm still kinda concerned that someone who (IMHO) is close to being certifiable is allowed to be in charge of children!
I was taught by monks in a Benedictine Monastary School for 2 years. Dont worry, your son wont be any more damaged than most of the rest of us ;)
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modified on Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:23 AM
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What's actually the differency with Christian, Jew, Moslim, Hindu, Bhoedism... believes? People just want to believe in unexplainable things, despite science already provided an explanation. Granted, crop circles are weird, but IMHO not weirder then normal believe, just less socially accepted. :-D
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Nah, y'see, I disagree. OK take someone who believes in a deity - there's no PROOF one way or the other. now IMHO they're nuts to believe something - but thre are people here who would have exactly the opposite view (regardless of the flavour of the religion) But crop circles - they started out as a hoax, the hoaxers admitted it and have demonstrated what they did and how they did it - as have many others. So in this case, someone believing in some E.T. graffiti artist is insisting on beleiving it despit overwhelming evidence to the contrary. So it's not inexplicable - it's been explained - they just don't want to listen.
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
I was far more interested in other forms of biological research.
I went to a boys boarding school and spent a lot of time and energy avoiding biological research. I figure if I had to teach a me I'd not have made it to 15, I really was a little shit in those days, I like to think I have mellowed somewhat since then.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
I have mellowed somewhat since then.
not too much, I hope? I too was a bit of a sh*t, and went to an all-boys school (not boarding, though -perish the thought!) - I think it was a couple of my teachers back then who took time with me that gave me a desire to teach well.
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you misinterpret my concerns - I don't think The Boy will end up a crop-circle believer - but wonder at the massive ignorance of someone who has managed to qualify as a teacher.
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
And just because 'that' school is populated by weed-smokin' kaftan wearin' hemp weavin' hippies, doesn't mean they're all thick - oh!,. hang on!
:laugh: :laugh: I didn't say thick, I said had strange beliefs!! ;-)
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_Damian S_ wrote:
I didn't say thick, I said had strange beliefs!!
I remember well how my form tutor when I was ten was much thicker than I was. Because of his thickness, he had the same kind of stupid, can-never-be-proven-because-they're-complete-rubbish-but-idiots-believe-them-anyway beliefs, and he discriminated against children who didn't also believe them. He made several of us very miserable. He's probably dead by now. That doesn't make me unhappy at all.
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digital man wrote:
Not so sure about that: when what someone believes in is demonstrably and factually nonsense
That is what a lot of people say about all religion. We've been down the path showing religious arguments go to the back room or soap box, haven't we? It does not help that there was a direct comparison between believing in it and Catholicism as being comparable conditions regarding your suitability for teaching children.
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Wow - take a chill pill dady-o teh comparison was a quote - and I deliberately added the 'for example' bit. Used as an example of something that some people believe and some don't, and in an agrument actually supporting the viewpoint that it matters not what are your beleifs, but it does matter whether you teach them or not. If you think this sort of stuff should be in the back room or soap box, then I throw my hands up in despaire and suggest we stop using the lounge for anything except pun chains.
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What bothers me a little is that people believe in God, but not in Santa Claus. As far as I'm concerned there is equal proof of the existence of both. //L
Media2r wrote:
What bothers me a little is that people believe in God, but not in Santa Claus. As far as I'm concerned there is equal proof of the existence of both.
There are presents around the tree every year. God doesn't provide such categorical proof.
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Ah, but even if you don't believe in Santa, you still get presents!
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Roger Wright wrote:
there's no tangible proof that he was ever born
Actually there is much historical proof of his existence.
Jacquers wrote:
historical proof
That term has a whole world of meanings.
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After. I was in to metal for most of my teens ( and ever since )
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Nothing's Inexplicable, Merely Unexplained.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Nothing's Inexplicable, Merely Unexplained.
I'll have to introduce you to my wife, some time.
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Second Paragraph.[^] The Netherlands has the highest average number of recorded tornadoes per area of any country (more than 20, or 0.0013 per sq mi (0.00048 per km²), annually),[citation needed] followed by the UK (around 33, or 0.00035 per sq mi (0.00013 per km²), per year),[3][4] but most are small and cause minor damage. In absolute number of events, ignoring area, the UK experiences more tornadoes than any other European country. So we are second in the world for density, and the top in europe for number.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
So we are second in the world for density, and the top in europe for number.
Wait, I thought the other day you were saying Britian is not European? ;)
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Media2r wrote:
What bothers me a little is that people believe in God, but not in Santa Claus. As far as I'm concerned there is equal proof of the existence of both.
There are presents around the tree every year. God doesn't provide such categorical proof.
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And the Gideon keeps pushing bibles as there's no tomorrow(?!). I don't consider either to be empiric evidence. //L
Media2r wrote:
And the Gideon keeps pushing bibles as there's no tomorrow(?!). I don't consider either to be empiric evidence.
Point 0: The Gideons are people. Point 1: It's Santa who puts the presents around the tree. Point 2: The fact that he does so is empirical evidence of his existence. My work here is done.
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Media2r wrote:
And the Gideon keeps pushing bibles as there's no tomorrow(?!). I don't consider either to be empiric evidence.
Point 0: The Gideons are people. Point 1: It's Santa who puts the presents around the tree. Point 2: The fact that he does so is empirical evidence of his existence. My work here is done.
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Well, I just don't like the fellow. As a child I once woke up un the middle of the night during christmas, and as I walked down the hallway I saw him in my parents bedroom. My dad wasn't there, but my mom had apparently been a good girl. Suffice it to say that milk and cookies wasn't the only things put out for santa that year. //L
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Wow - take a chill pill dady-o teh comparison was a quote - and I deliberately added the 'for example' bit. Used as an example of something that some people believe and some don't, and in an agrument actually supporting the viewpoint that it matters not what are your beleifs, but it does matter whether you teach them or not. If you think this sort of stuff should be in the back room or soap box, then I throw my hands up in despaire and suggest we stop using the lounge for anything except pun chains.
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Wow - take a chill pill dady-o teh comparison was a quote - and I deliberately added the 'for example' bit. Used as an example of something that some people believe and some don't, and in an agrument actually supporting the viewpoint that it matters not what are your beleifs, but it does matter whether you teach them or not. If you think this sort of stuff should be in the back room or soap box, then I throw my hands up in despaire and suggest we stop using the lounge for anything except pun chains.
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I had read more than just your post before I posted. I deliberately do not return fire at people who beat up my beliefs here, because I think it is not the right place for it. I'm more than willing to trade jibes or jokes on it, not here. Look at it this way - people say if you believe in private gun ownership, you are a nut, and that is non-lounge. How different is belief? And the pun chains have to get started in another room and moved here only when funny. (joke :-O )
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