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  • R Richard Blythe

    Frogger sits twenty feet from a wall. He has just eaten two (slow roasted) flies. ;P Now he sees another fly at the base of the wall! On his first jump, he has the energy to jump half the distance to the wall. (ten feet) :doh: All subsequent jumping power is also cut in half. :(( Question: How many jumps will it take for Frogger to reach the wall? (This is a DISTANCE question, not a "eat the fly" question)

    The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open.

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    Marc Clifton
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    Richard Blythe wrote:

    Question: How many jumps will it take for Frogger to reach the wall?

    2 jumps. After the first jump, an exception is thrown, the frogger reboots, and he's back to full energy. Marc

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      Richard Blythe wrote:

      Question: How many jumps will it take for Frogger to reach the wall?

      2 jumps. After the first jump, an exception is thrown, the frogger reboots, and he's back to full energy. Marc

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      Richard Blythe
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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      an exception is thrown

      Oh yes, I use that exception all the time: FroggerEnergyException

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      • R Richard Blythe

        Allways remmber to spel your wordds write. :-D

        The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open.

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        TheyCallMeMrJames
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        Potayto potahto. ;)

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        • R Richard Blythe

          Right on my man! It's amazing how many people don't get it. This was a question that I dug out of an old college math book. (Your hired!) :)

          The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open.

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          TheyCallMeMrJames
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          Richard Blythe wrote:

          Your hired

          Hey spelling cop! It's "you're hired". ;) hehehe Don't go writing up a grammar checker, okay? hehe

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          • S Steven J Jowett

            Frogger is an infinate number of jumps from the wall, because, given enough decimal places, any positive finate number divided by 2 will always produce a value greater that zero.

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            Chris Losinger
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            all he has to do is get close and then lean over a bit. or, get a bit closer and let one of the electrons in one of the cells in his skin bump into one of the electrons in the silica in the wall. you can't get infinitely-close-but-not-touching in the real world.

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            • T TheyCallMeMrJames

              Richard Blythe wrote:

              Your hired

              Hey spelling cop! It's "you're hired". ;) hehehe Don't go writing up a grammar checker, okay? hehe

              They Call me Mister James

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              Richard Blythe
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              I'm hit! :laugh:

              The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open.

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              • R Robert Rohde

                Well thats a long tongue :laugh:

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                Steve Mayfield
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                Even the fly would stick around for one that long :laugh: especially if it was a female :-O

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                • R Richard Blythe

                  Right on my man! It's amazing how many people don't get it. This was a question that I dug out of an old college math book. (Your hired!) :)

                  The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open.

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                  Chris Losinger
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                  Richard Blythe wrote:

                  I dug out of an old college math book.

                  old... no foolin. like 490 BC[^] old.

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                  modified on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:10 PM

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                    Richard Blythe wrote:

                    Question: How many jumps will it take for Frogger to reach the wall?

                    He'll never get there.

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                    Correct. After his first jump, the fly is out of there and the Frogger is no longer interested in nearing the wall. :)

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                    • C Chris Losinger

                      Richard Blythe wrote:

                      I dug out of an old college math book.

                      old... no foolin. like 490 BC[^] old.

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                      modified on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:10 PM

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                      Uros Calakovic
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                      Zeno's paradoxes[^] ?

                      The bearing of a child takes nine months, no matter how many women are assigned.

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                        Zeno's paradoxes[^] ?

                        The bearing of a child takes nine months, no matter how many women are assigned.

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                        Chris Losinger
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                        that's where my link was supposed to go... yeah :-O

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                        • R Richard Blythe

                          Frogger sits twenty feet from a wall. He has just eaten two (slow roasted) flies. ;P Now he sees another fly at the base of the wall! On his first jump, he has the energy to jump half the distance to the wall. (ten feet) :doh: All subsequent jumping power is also cut in half. :(( Question: How many jumps will it take for Frogger to reach the wall? (This is a DISTANCE question, not a "eat the fly" question)

                          The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open.

                          modified on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:33 AM

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                          Joan M
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                          Lucky frog that made only one jump and then it started walking...

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                          • R Richard Blythe

                            Frogger sits twenty feet from a wall. He has just eaten two (slow roasted) flies. ;P Now he sees another fly at the base of the wall! On his first jump, he has the energy to jump half the distance to the wall. (ten feet) :doh: All subsequent jumping power is also cut in half. :(( Question: How many jumps will it take for Frogger to reach the wall? (This is a DISTANCE question, not a "eat the fly" question)

                            The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open.

                            modified on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:33 AM

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                            Andrew Rissing
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                            3 hops. Because the first jump is 10 feet and the last two are 5. You didn't say it was halved each time. ;-) If you did though, you're talking about an age old math teaser. I believe it was an arrow travels half the remaining distance in a second. How long will it take to arrive at its target? Answer: Never. It will always be some faction of distance away from the target.

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                            • R Richard Blythe

                              Frogger sits twenty feet from a wall. He has just eaten two (slow roasted) flies. ;P Now he sees another fly at the base of the wall! On his first jump, he has the energy to jump half the distance to the wall. (ten feet) :doh: All subsequent jumping power is also cut in half. :(( Question: How many jumps will it take for Frogger to reach the wall? (This is a DISTANCE question, not a "eat the fly" question)

                              The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open.

                              modified on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:33 AM

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                              Richard Blythe wrote:

                              How many jumps will it take for Frogger to reach the wall?

                              How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop (if each lick removes half the remaining tootsie pop)?

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                              • R Richard Blythe

                                You've never played Frogger?!! I thought everyone grew up playing Frogger. No wonder your warped. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogger[^]

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                                Richard Blythe wrote:

                                You've never played Frogger?!! I thought everyone grew up playing Frogger. No wonder your warped.

                                I knew there should be some reason, but I thought it’s because of the incident with the cat and the TNT stick when I was a child. :sigh:

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                                • R Richard Blythe

                                  Frogger sits twenty feet from a wall. He has just eaten two (slow roasted) flies. ;P Now he sees another fly at the base of the wall! On his first jump, he has the energy to jump half the distance to the wall. (ten feet) :doh: All subsequent jumping power is also cut in half. :(( Question: How many jumps will it take for Frogger to reach the wall? (This is a DISTANCE question, not a "eat the fly" question)

                                  The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open.

                                  modified on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:33 AM

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                                  Abhinav S
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                                  Richard Blythe wrote:

                                  How many jumps will it take for Frogger to reach the wall

                                  Infinite. He is not going to get to the fly.

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                                  • R Richard Blythe

                                    Frogger sits twenty feet from a wall. He has just eaten two (slow roasted) flies. ;P Now he sees another fly at the base of the wall! On his first jump, he has the energy to jump half the distance to the wall. (ten feet) :doh: All subsequent jumping power is also cut in half. :(( Question: How many jumps will it take for Frogger to reach the wall? (This is a DISTANCE question, not a "eat the fly" question)

                                    The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open.

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                                    James L Thomson
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                                    Frogger lives in a discrete world, not a contiguous one, so the answer to the question depends on the minimal distance resolution and whether the jump algorithm rounds or truncates.

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                                    • A Andrew Rissing

                                      3 hops. Because the first jump is 10 feet and the last two are 5. You didn't say it was halved each time. ;-) If you did though, you're talking about an age old math teaser. I believe it was an arrow travels half the remaining distance in a second. How long will it take to arrive at its target? Answer: Never. It will always be some faction of distance away from the target.

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                                      Andrew Rissing wrote:

                                      If you did though, you're talking about an age old math teaser. I believe it was an arrow travels half the remaining distance in a second. How long will it take to arrive at its target? Answer: Never. It will always be some faction of distance away from the target.

                                      That's incorrect on multiple fronts. First Zeno created it not to try and disprove motion or anything equally silly but to disprove infinitely divisible time/distance. He failed to do so because the problem he setup requires basic calculus to solve: Specifically Limit N->oo (1-(1/N)), or Sigma N=2 to oo (1/N); both of which are equal to 1.

                                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                        Andrew Rissing wrote:

                                        If you did though, you're talking about an age old math teaser. I believe it was an arrow travels half the remaining distance in a second. How long will it take to arrive at its target? Answer: Never. It will always be some faction of distance away from the target.

                                        That's incorrect on multiple fronts. First Zeno created it not to try and disprove motion or anything equally silly but to disprove infinitely divisible time/distance. He failed to do so because the problem he setup requires basic calculus to solve: Specifically Limit N->oo (1-(1/N)), or Sigma N=2 to oo (1/N); both of which are equal to 1.

                                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                        Andrew Rissing
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                                        In the context of when it was presented to me, it was shown as a math problem to say that the arrow would never 'theoretically' reach its target. In the real world, "1 / infinity" is zero, but it was in the context of theory only.

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