Moving an Access db [modified]
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We have a small IIS web server that has an ASP (yes, gasp, it's nasty) website that uses as it's data source an access database (please stop laughing). It's an old machine and I'm trying to transfer the whole site to a newer machine that we just got. For the new machine, do I need to install MS Office to be able to read/write to the access db? The old machine has Office 2000, but *not* the Access component of Office. So I'm wondering if I need to even bother installing Office, or if it's needed because of the ODBC drivers? //edit PS: Thanks to everyone for being so helpful on this!
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modified on Friday, July 23, 2010 1:43 PM
No, as PIEBALDConsult say the jet engine is usually present in all the machines. If not you can download from: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239114[^]
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We have a small IIS web server that has an ASP (yes, gasp, it's nasty) website that uses as it's data source an access database (please stop laughing). It's an old machine and I'm trying to transfer the whole site to a newer machine that we just got. For the new machine, do I need to install MS Office to be able to read/write to the access db? The old machine has Office 2000, but *not* the Access component of Office. So I'm wondering if I need to even bother installing Office, or if it's needed because of the ODBC drivers? //edit PS: Thanks to everyone for being so helpful on this!
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modified on Friday, July 23, 2010 1:43 PM
One important thing to remember is that "Jet" is a 32 bit dll. If your new server is 64 bit, you may run into some problems.
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One important thing to remember is that "Jet" is a 32 bit dll. If your new server is 64 bit, you may run into some problems.
The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open.
Fuck me freddy. The damn thing is 64 bit! Well, I'll have to see what happens. I'm sure this will prove to be an entertaining afternoon :)
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Fuck me freddy. The damn thing is 64 bit! Well, I'll have to see what happens. I'm sure this will prove to be an entertaining afternoon :)
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You can set your app pool to run in 32-bit mode.
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You can set your app pool to run in 32-bit mode.
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That's something configured within IIS, or is the actual voodoo stored somewhere else?
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That's something configured within IIS, or is the actual voodoo stored somewhere else?
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Within IIS. Assuming Win2k8 R2: * Start -> Administrative Tools -> IIS Manager * Click on Application Pools * Right-click on your app pool, select Advanced Settings * Change "Enable 32-bit applications" from False to True
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Within IIS. Assuming Win2k8 R2: * Start -> Administrative Tools -> IIS Manager * Click on Application Pools * Right-click on your app pool, select Advanced Settings * Change "Enable 32-bit applications" from False to True
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Actually, we're still on Win2003, but I'm sure it's somewhat similar. Thanks for the help!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
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We have a small IIS web server that has an ASP (yes, gasp, it's nasty) website that uses as it's data source an access database (please stop laughing). It's an old machine and I'm trying to transfer the whole site to a newer machine that we just got. For the new machine, do I need to install MS Office to be able to read/write to the access db? The old machine has Office 2000, but *not* the Access component of Office. So I'm wondering if I need to even bother installing Office, or if it's needed because of the ODBC drivers? //edit PS: Thanks to everyone for being so helpful on this!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
modified on Friday, July 23, 2010 1:43 PM
My sympathy man. I did inherit similar web app. Decided to upgrade to SQL server. run migration tool, copied queries to SP and with little effort it was up and running. Access is simply evil. p.s. Got nothing to add to previous suggestions. I'd start right there and Good Luck
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We have a small IIS web server that has an ASP (yes, gasp, it's nasty) website that uses as it's data source an access database (please stop laughing). It's an old machine and I'm trying to transfer the whole site to a newer machine that we just got. For the new machine, do I need to install MS Office to be able to read/write to the access db? The old machine has Office 2000, but *not* the Access component of Office. So I'm wondering if I need to even bother installing Office, or if it's needed because of the ODBC drivers? //edit PS: Thanks to everyone for being so helpful on this!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
modified on Friday, July 23, 2010 1:43 PM
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Actually, we're still on Win2003, but I'm sure it's somewhat similar. Thanks for the help!
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Jon is correct. You'll need to compile your main exe as 32bit. With Microsoft's release of SQl Server Express, I doubt they'll ever do any further major releases of the Jet engine. Access isn't all that bad however. I still use it for small database apps. It's certainly a whole lot easier to deploy!
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Jon is correct. You'll need to compile your main exe as 32bit. With Microsoft's release of SQl Server Express, I doubt they'll ever do any further major releases of the Jet engine. Access isn't all that bad however. I still use it for small database apps. It's certainly a whole lot easier to deploy!
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It's classic ASP not ASP.Net, so there's nothing to compile.
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Within IIS. Assuming Win2k8 R2: * Start -> Administrative Tools -> IIS Manager * Click on Application Pools * Right-click on your app pool, select Advanced Settings * Change "Enable 32-bit applications" from False to True
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How wrong I was. This is such a PITA, I'm actually going to request that the server be "downgraded" to the 32bit version of the OS. It's just not worth the hassle.
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How wrong I was. This is such a PITA, I'm actually going to request that the server be "downgraded" to the 32bit version of the OS. It's just not worth the hassle.
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Just a shot in the dark, having never done this on Win2k3 myself. Have you tried these steps? * Running 32-bit Applications on 64-bit Windows (IIS 6.0)[^] * Configuring IIS to Run 32-bit Applications on 64-bit Windows (IIS 6.0)[^]
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Just a shot in the dark, having never done this on Win2k3 myself. Have you tried these steps? * Running 32-bit Applications on 64-bit Windows (IIS 6.0)[^] * Configuring IIS to Run 32-bit Applications on 64-bit Windows (IIS 6.0)[^]
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Yeah, I just tried them, that in turn generates a new set of errors, which, according to this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894435[^] apparently means I need to install the 32 bit version of .Net, despite the fact that I'm NOT using ASP.net, and ASP.Net is actually disabled (why turn it on, I'm not using, right?). This is just reaching the point of absurdity. We certainly have NO need of a 64 bit OS for this machine, and I have no doubt that even if I get this to work, something else will probably break.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
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We have a small IIS web server that has an ASP (yes, gasp, it's nasty) website that uses as it's data source an access database (please stop laughing). It's an old machine and I'm trying to transfer the whole site to a newer machine that we just got. For the new machine, do I need to install MS Office to be able to read/write to the access db? The old machine has Office 2000, but *not* the Access component of Office. So I'm wondering if I need to even bother installing Office, or if it's needed because of the ODBC drivers? //edit PS: Thanks to everyone for being so helpful on this!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
modified on Friday, July 23, 2010 1:43 PM
Virtualize this machine... it will be easier... You are speaking of JET and ACCESS... :rolleyes:
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We have a small IIS web server that has an ASP (yes, gasp, it's nasty) website that uses as it's data source an access database (please stop laughing). It's an old machine and I'm trying to transfer the whole site to a newer machine that we just got. For the new machine, do I need to install MS Office to be able to read/write to the access db? The old machine has Office 2000, but *not* the Access component of Office. So I'm wondering if I need to even bother installing Office, or if it's needed because of the ODBC drivers? //edit PS: Thanks to everyone for being so helpful on this!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
modified on Friday, July 23, 2010 1:43 PM
My first thought was a shovel and gloves.... As you got sensible answers elsewhere
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We have a small IIS web server that has an ASP (yes, gasp, it's nasty) website that uses as it's data source an access database (please stop laughing). It's an old machine and I'm trying to transfer the whole site to a newer machine that we just got. For the new machine, do I need to install MS Office to be able to read/write to the access db? The old machine has Office 2000, but *not* the Access component of Office. So I'm wondering if I need to even bother installing Office, or if it's needed because of the ODBC drivers? //edit PS: Thanks to everyone for being so helpful on this!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
modified on Friday, July 23, 2010 1:43 PM
I've been trying to migrate Access back-ended ASP systems since I started my current job 3 years ago. The Migration tool is all well and good, but I've found it easier to re-create them by hand, whilst simultaneously re-writing the front-end. Depends on how big the project is, obviously. As others have said, Access is evil. :mad:
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We have a small IIS web server that has an ASP (yes, gasp, it's nasty) website that uses as it's data source an access database (please stop laughing). It's an old machine and I'm trying to transfer the whole site to a newer machine that we just got. For the new machine, do I need to install MS Office to be able to read/write to the access db? The old machine has Office 2000, but *not* the Access component of Office. So I'm wondering if I need to even bother installing Office, or if it's needed because of the ODBC drivers? //edit PS: Thanks to everyone for being so helpful on this!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
modified on Friday, July 23, 2010 1:43 PM
I think the SQL upgrade wizard thing should be helpful. If not, I wrote a tool called SchemaMaster that can copy the tables and data to MSSQL, MySQL, Excel, dBase, FoxPro, (PostGres and Oracle though not as well tested)... At the same time! LOL... I find Access isn't so evil - but for a web app - it's underpowered for sure. I think Access is actually pretty sweet... one of Microsoft's cool ones in my book. However, trying to upgrade all those forms and not always cooperative queries and things.. not to mention the vba code you might have is where things get dicey. I'd recommend Microsoft's SQL Server or MySQL as your next DB for that thing... MS SQL is the obvious choice if you're in a Microsoft "Shop" and IIS and ASP or .Net is the direction you need to go.
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My sympathy man. I did inherit similar web app. Decided to upgrade to SQL server. run migration tool, copied queries to SP and with little effort it was up and running. Access is simply evil. p.s. Got nothing to add to previous suggestions. I'd start right there and Good Luck
Yusuf May I help you?
Simpler is sometimes better. SQLExpress is a big slow cumbersome beast that requires additional runtimes and background services. ASP and an Access database can be used on any Windows machine with nothing more than PWS, IIS, or Babyweb Server. ASP Classic still has a huge following and has a (mostly) pretty logical syntax. I presonally quite like it. More powerful than Access, less hassle than ASP.NET. Just IMHO, if you only require your web app to read/write an Access database, then why not?
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We have a small IIS web server that has an ASP (yes, gasp, it's nasty) website that uses as it's data source an access database (please stop laughing). It's an old machine and I'm trying to transfer the whole site to a newer machine that we just got. For the new machine, do I need to install MS Office to be able to read/write to the access db? The old machine has Office 2000, but *not* the Access component of Office. So I'm wondering if I need to even bother installing Office, or if it's needed because of the ODBC drivers? //edit PS: Thanks to everyone for being so helpful on this!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
modified on Friday, July 23, 2010 1:43 PM
A main reason to install office with Access is you will eventually need to open the database and modify the tables. With Access you will also need to run the compression tool because Access databases don't self compress and can become quite large with lots of activity. With multiple users acessing the database the data can become corrupted at times and being able to open the database, use the compression tool, etc is essential. Make it easy on yourself and install Access!