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    harold aptroot wrote:

    IMO this is just provocation.

    Yep, and odds are I'm going to have to beat a friend or two with a stick to get the point across that pissing in someone's cheerios isn't the best way to prove you're better than they are. Blind hatred is as useless and destructive as blind faith, but apparently actually looking is really hard.

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    As a child my parents would bring me to church and try to make me religious, but then I read books that were not written by bronze age goat herders. I realised that the bible, and all religious texts, were providing answers for ignorance. But today we know the answers, there is no god of rainbows, there is no creationism, it is all bunkum and people who need the crutch of religion do so because they have been brainwashed by their parents. Teaching children religion is abuse. I saw the light, and it was science and maths, reason and argument, debate and reality, not bollocks and bells and smells, not ancient scripture written before refrigerators and computers, not hokum designed to create power and wealth for the elite.

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      As a child my parents would bring me to church and try to make me religious, but then I read books that were not written by bronze age goat herders. I realised that the bible, and all religious texts, were providing answers for ignorance. But today we know the answers, there is no god of rainbows, there is no creationism, it is all bunkum and people who need the crutch of religion do so because they have been brainwashed by their parents. Teaching children religion is abuse. I saw the light, and it was science and maths, reason and argument, debate and reality, not bollocks and bells and smells, not ancient scripture written before refrigerators and computers, not hokum designed to create power and wealth for the elite.

      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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      Ian Shlasko
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      Religion isn't all bad... * It scares people into being civilized by giving "evil" acts greater perceived consequences ("Hell") than the legal system can provide. Umm... I'm trying to think of another advantage to religion, but the rest of my ideas just don't work... I figured maybe it encouraged people to become literate, but I don't think most of them actually READ their "holy" texts, since some guy will teach them verbally once a week. Wait! I got a few more! * Inspires some nice music and fairy tales... Granted, if not for religion, other things would have inspired equally-nice music and fairy tales. * Provides useful expletives and insults, such as "goddamn" and "go to hell" Ok, that's all I can think of right now.

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      • I Ian Shlasko

        Religion isn't all bad... * It scares people into being civilized by giving "evil" acts greater perceived consequences ("Hell") than the legal system can provide. Umm... I'm trying to think of another advantage to religion, but the rest of my ideas just don't work... I figured maybe it encouraged people to become literate, but I don't think most of them actually READ their "holy" texts, since some guy will teach them verbally once a week. Wait! I got a few more! * Inspires some nice music and fairy tales... Granted, if not for religion, other things would have inspired equally-nice music and fairy tales. * Provides useful expletives and insults, such as "goddamn" and "go to hell" Ok, that's all I can think of right now.

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        Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        Ian Shlasko wrote:

        Religion isn't all bad...

        'Fraid it pretty much is. It feeds ignorance and stagnation.

        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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          You may have heard about it on the news, otherwise go google. IMO this is just provocation. OTOH, a book is just a stack of paper with letters on it - I wouldn't RAGEQUIT* if a group of people decided to burn "On the Origin of Species" or "The God Delusion", I'd simply laugh at their barbaric behaviour and consider them to have lost "whatever it is they were trying win". IOW, it shouldn't have a provoking effect. (do I get points for starting nearly every sentence with an acronym?) * out of life. i.e, become a suicide terrorist. Discuss.

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          This is not going to work. Someone needs to disagree. How about you, CSS?

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            Ian Shlasko wrote:

            Religion isn't all bad...

            'Fraid it pretty much is. It feeds ignorance and stagnation.

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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            Well yeah, but it's not ALL bad... Like I said, there are a few redeeming qualities. Not many, but a few. One of these days, I need to read the bible, just to see what the big deal is... I mean, it's pretty much the #1 bestselling novel of all time, right?

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              Well yeah, but it's not ALL bad... Like I said, there are a few redeeming qualities. Not many, but a few. One of these days, I need to read the bible, just to see what the big deal is... I mean, it's pretty much the #1 bestselling novel of all time, right?

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              Ian Shlasko wrote:

              #1 bestselling novel

              I think that's Harry Potter. :-) Anyway, it's a series of short, badly told narratives written by desert dwelling camel shaggers who knew no better: hardly worth reading unless you like lots of begets and begats though I prefer a nice tuna baguette.

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                This is not going to work. Someone needs to disagree. How about you, CSS?

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                Harold, don't be silly. Uncle Alex hasn't told him what to think yet :laugh:

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                • L Lost User

                  This is not going to work. Someone needs to disagree. How about you, CSS?

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  harold aptroot wrote:

                  How about you, CSS?

                  That would imply that he has been able to follow and understand the discussion and we both know that is just not going to happen.

                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                    This is not going to work. Someone needs to disagree. How about you, CSS?

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                    if it aint on infowars he's stumped :laugh:

                    As barmey as a sack of badgers

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                      Ian Shlasko wrote:

                      #1 bestselling novel

                      I think that's Harry Potter. :-) Anyway, it's a series of short, badly told narratives written by desert dwelling camel shaggers who knew no better: hardly worth reading unless you like lots of begets and begats though I prefer a nice tuna baguette.

                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                      Ian Shlasko
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                      Hey, there's gotta be SOMETHING in there worth reading, if it's been this popular for over 2000 years. Sure, I'm not expecting Shakespeare or Chaucer by any stretch, but I figure it has to at least have a little character development, right?

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                        You may have heard about it on the news, otherwise go google. IMO this is just provocation. OTOH, a book is just a stack of paper with letters on it - I wouldn't RAGEQUIT* if a group of people decided to burn "On the Origin of Species" or "The God Delusion", I'd simply laugh at their barbaric behaviour and consider them to have lost "whatever it is they were trying win". IOW, it shouldn't have a provoking effect. (do I get points for starting nearly every sentence with an acronym?) * out of life. i.e, become a suicide terrorist. Discuss.

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                        Bloody stupid idea. It's a jolly jape on the part of the publishers. Have you got a copy of the Qur'an? Neither have I. Are you going to buy a copy - just to burn it? Neither am I.

                        Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.

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                          Hey, there's gotta be SOMETHING in there worth reading, if it's been this popular for over 2000 years. Sure, I'm not expecting Shakespeare or Chaucer by any stretch, but I figure it has to at least have a little character development, right?

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                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                          WRONG! Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's any good. Look at any book by Dan Brown - they're popular but you wouldn't want to read one. Besides, who gives a toss about something that happened 2000 years ago in the desert? How does that relate to contemporary life? How do I reconcile what I read in the bible (or any religious tome) with real life now? It's risible, at best; my life so reflects what some ancient person who lived 25 years did in a tent in the desert. Only an insane lunatic would buy into such drivel. I could go on but that would be as boring as a Dan Brown novel. Or the bible.

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                            if it aint on infowars he's stumped :laugh:

                            As barmey as a sack of badgers

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                            Maybe he could make a childish insult, that would be nice :)

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                              As a child my parents would bring me to church and try to make me religious, but then I read books that were not written by bronze age goat herders. I realised that the bible, and all religious texts, were providing answers for ignorance. But today we know the answers, there is no god of rainbows, there is no creationism, it is all bunkum and people who need the crutch of religion do so because they have been brainwashed by their parents. Teaching children religion is abuse. I saw the light, and it was science and maths, reason and argument, debate and reality, not bollocks and bells and smells, not ancient scripture written before refrigerators and computers, not hokum designed to create power and wealth for the elite.

                              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                              You know that there is no intelligent design? I doubt you do, in fact I know you don't. You know a bit about the laws of the universe, an infinitesimal fraction of it. I don't think it is even possible for the human mind to understand the universe.

                              Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                                Hey, there's gotta be SOMETHING in there worth reading, if it's been this popular for over 2000 years. Sure, I'm not expecting Shakespeare or Chaucer by any stretch, but I figure it has to at least have a little character development, right?

                                Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                Perhaps one day you will understand what religion is about. It isn't about fairytales and myths.

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                                  WRONG! Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's any good. Look at any book by Dan Brown - they're popular but you wouldn't want to read one. Besides, who gives a toss about something that happened 2000 years ago in the desert? How does that relate to contemporary life? How do I reconcile what I read in the bible (or any religious tome) with real life now? It's risible, at best; my life so reflects what some ancient person who lived 25 years did in a tent in the desert. Only an insane lunatic would buy into such drivel. I could go on but that would be as boring as a Dan Brown novel. Or the bible.

                                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                  I swear you are retarded. You are blinded by hatred, you have denied yourself ever knowing what spirituality is about.

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                                    I swear you are retarded. You are blinded by hatred, you have denied yourself ever knowing what spirituality is about.

                                    Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                                    Ooh this is good! :) Thanks for coming out to play Had a good laugh already - continue :)

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                                      Perhaps one day you will understand what religion is about. It isn't about fairytales and myths.

                                      Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                                      What a C#nt! There is no factual basis for religion except to aid the weak minded. Any defence of religion is an attack on logic and reason. Your turn cockboy

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                                      • I Ian Shlasko

                                        How about the Necronomicon Ex Mortis? Klaatu! Verata! Ni... uh... Necktie... Necktum... Nickel...

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                                        They keep talking about bringing that back but I don't know if Bruce could do it now and it wouldn't be the same if he was't in it.

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                                          You know that there is no intelligent design? I doubt you do, in fact I know you don't. You know a bit about the laws of the universe, an infinitesimal fraction of it. I don't think it is even possible for the human mind to understand the universe.

                                          Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                                          Yes, we know there is no intelligent design. All proponents of ID spout infantile non-scientific rubbish dressed with personal attacks because they cannot beat the science. Biology, Evolution, Physics, Geography, Geology, Cosmology, Vulcanology, Chemistry etc etc etc, all point to a much older universe than the idiotic 6000 years of the fuckwitted twats that believe in it. The very fact we have Uranium on the planet proves this, it's half life is 4.5 Billion years to Thorium, and measure Uranium238/Thorium234 ratios gives the approximate age of the planet. Argue that Mr Thicky!

                                          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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