FYI, information on GISS, NOAA, CRUT station coverage
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Ditch the fetish, man
As soon as others do, so will I. Untill then I have a mission! :)
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Your mission is dull and monotonous, and completely devoid of brain-eating zombies. I award it no points.
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fat_boy wrote:
50 billion dollars spent so far on GW, and yet not one single iota of solid empiracle proof that CO2 causes warming on a global scale.
Once again, you try to manipulate the argument. Did I suggest funding for global warming research? No. Did I suggest funding for a CO2 study? No. This is funding for general climate research. More measuring stations around the globe, more research into, for example, circulation patterns and currents, meteorological models, effects of airborne chemicals... Not everything is about your CO2 fetish. And nowhere does their funding request specify $50 billion, or for that matter, any dollar amount. The PDF is not from the IPCC. It's from an association of climatologists in the US.
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"...matters that are more pressing."
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Typical political attitude... You always think it's either A or B... Do you realize that there are billions of people on this planet? That means we can do this amazing thing called MULTITASKING, where different groups of people work on different things. And you know what? Budgets are made up of this stuff called "currency," which can be subdivided into different places. Now brace yourself... You can spend money on more than one thing at a time! You just give some of it to group A and some of it to group B. Are you getting the point yet, or do I have to be more patronizing and condescending?
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I spent a good 6-7 seconds skimming scrolling through that PDF, and I'm pretty sure there's nothing about brain-eating zombies there.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)I for one would have read it if it had shown evidence of brain eating zombies. Fortuanetly your excellent reviewing skills saved me the trouble. Shame that. It is definetly time people took brain eating zombies seriously.
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Typical political attitude... You always think it's either A or B... Do you realize that there are billions of people on this planet? That means we can do this amazing thing called MULTITASKING, where different groups of people work on different things. And you know what? Budgets are made up of this stuff called "currency," which can be subdivided into different places. Now brace yourself... You can spend money on more than one thing at a time! You just give some of it to group A and some of it to group B. Are you getting the point yet, or do I have to be more patronizing and condescending?
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wolfbinary wrote:
Are you trying to become the AWG CSS of this site or what
You havent been around that long have you?
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fat_boy wrote:
You havent been around that long have you?
So you can't answer the question or are unwilling to? Got it.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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fat_boy wrote:
You havent been around that long have you?
So you can't answer the question or are unwilling to? Got it.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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fat_boy wrote:
Even Ian who claims to be open minded didnt bother reading it.
Because you're posting the same crap over and over and over and over and over again. It's annoying, monotonous, and exactly the same as CSS's repetitive ranting. The only difference between you and CSS, is that you at least pretend to understand the subject, while he can't seem to rise out of his drug-induced stupor. You want a sensible viewpoint? Here's one[^] I found... It's a bit old, but I think it still makes sense, and I mostly agree with what it says. Things are constantly changing. Humanity IS influencing it, and not just through CO2 (Which you seem to have a fetish for). How much and in what way is not yet known, because the problem is too complex for a simple answer, so we need to act responsibly and be prepared.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)If man made GW was proven beyond any shadow of a doubt, do you honestly think people would believe it? Most people in the US for example don't believe in evolution regardless of the scientific proof. Kansas banned it in the school systems from being taught.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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And then you have the degradation of science. These tools should be strung up for what they have dont to it!
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fat_boy wrote:
These tools
What "tools?" Exactly which groups have pissed you off to such a degree that you want to cut all funding for the entire discipline? Oh hey, some astronomer made an incorrect prediction of whether we'd be wiped out by an asteroid last year, so we better cut ALL funding for astronomy, right? Uh oh! A cancer drug didn't work, so we better get rid of all cancer research too! That's the kind of reasoning you're following here. The PDF I linked isn't asking for more funding for AGW groups. They're suggesting continued funding of climatology in general. So enough with this straw man[^] crap. This is supposed to be a logical discussion among geeks, not a public service announcement.
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fat_boy wrote:
These tools
What "tools?" Exactly which groups have pissed you off to such a degree that you want to cut all funding for the entire discipline? Oh hey, some astronomer made an incorrect prediction of whether we'd be wiped out by an asteroid last year, so we better cut ALL funding for astronomy, right? Uh oh! A cancer drug didn't work, so we better get rid of all cancer research too! That's the kind of reasoning you're following here. The PDF I linked isn't asking for more funding for AGW groups. They're suggesting continued funding of climatology in general. So enough with this straw man[^] crap. This is supposed to be a logical discussion among geeks, not a public service announcement.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
Oh hey, some astronomer made an incorrect prediction of whether we'd be wiped out by an asteroid last year, so we better cut ALL funding for astronomy, right?
"Let's go burn down the observatory so this will never happen again." - Moe Szyslak in "Bart's Comet"
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fat_boy wrote:
These tools
What "tools?" Exactly which groups have pissed you off to such a degree that you want to cut all funding for the entire discipline? Oh hey, some astronomer made an incorrect prediction of whether we'd be wiped out by an asteroid last year, so we better cut ALL funding for astronomy, right? Uh oh! A cancer drug didn't work, so we better get rid of all cancer research too! That's the kind of reasoning you're following here. The PDF I linked isn't asking for more funding for AGW groups. They're suggesting continued funding of climatology in general. So enough with this straw man[^] crap. This is supposed to be a logical discussion among geeks, not a public service announcement.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
cut all funding
You mistake your imagination for reality.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
geek
speak for yourself. ;P
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Now you're just dodging the issue. I said that they were advocating continued funding of climate research, not AGW studies. You repeated part of your prior post, saying, "...matters that are more pressing." The only way I can think of to interpret that is that you think the money should be spent elsewhere INSTEAD of the aforementioned climate research (Again, we're not talking about AGW studies). I replied that the money doesn't have to all go to one place, and can be split between various groups. And you responded: "And then you have the degradation of science. These tools should be strung up for what they have dont to it!" So what else is that supposed to mean? You're saying that giving climate research any funding at all is going to degrade science? What point are you trying to make here?
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I for one would have read it if it had shown evidence of brain eating zombies. Fortuanetly your excellent reviewing skills saved me the trouble. Shame that. It is definetly time people took brain eating zombies seriously.
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And you assume you can speak for others do you? If its so dull then just ignore it.
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fat_boy wrote:
And you assume you can speak for others do you?
Where did I make that claim?
It's time for a new signature.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
Where did I make that claim?
When you stated a personal opinion and then suggest that I stop posting as if that opinion was held by everyone, which it isnt. So for thse who dont think its boring I shall continue posting and you can just ignore my posts instead of commenting. Then we'll both be happy. :)
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
Where did I make that claim?
When you stated a personal opinion and then suggest that I stop posting as if that opinion was held by everyone, which it isnt. So for thse who dont think its boring I shall continue posting and you can just ignore my posts instead of commenting. Then we'll both be happy. :)
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Your mission is dull and monotonous, and completely devoid of brain-eating zombies. I award it no points.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Your mission is dull and monotonous
So if your goverment puts a one dollar tax per gallon gas to reduce your CO2 footprint, you will still find it "dull and monotonous".
What does that have to do with anything? If you want to join the discussion, try at least reading the posts.
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