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Hi group, I hope some of you guys can help me in dealing the tougher condition I am facing. I am working a very small scale company which has a man power of 10. Out of that we have only 3 developers including myself. Since last year, due to recession company started facing tougher times and it brought very tough measures from the management.There are some job cuts in the company. Management can not tolerate any project delays. So we are asked to prepare the tight estimates for the coming project and we have to deliver the project in that tight scope. Preparing the estimates is difficult as there are many unknown variables. So we sometimes end up giving wrong estimates. So for execution we often spend long working day and weekends. COmpany pays bonus for every 4 months and to pay that they do lot of scrutiny. There is a review for that. Every -ve point even if its very small they blow it out of proportion and they warn bonus wont be paid next time. Even if company facing problem they tell that we dont have to worry and during work hours they are very tough to ask the question about project task completions and every now and then we are reminded of the cost of an resource involved in the project. There is no casual relationship in the company and often feel ignored. there is very less talk in the company and we often speak on messenger. ALl this is causing lot of anxiety to me all the time. Mind is not free of -ve thoughts. I get stiff neck all the time and there is always heavy thoughts when I go home until I sleep. Morning same cycle continues. Even on weekend we end up doing some work. so it looks liek there is no escape. Its causing great harm to my self esteem as there is lot of negativity and worried about health. Company is looking for a bigger project but not sure if we can get and even if we get those, will the working environment improve. So help me guys in dealing such tougher times. May be I am weak to handle the situation and ready for the criticism. Thanks Meena kumar
I'd tend to agree with pompeyboy3. If times are hard, the worst possible thing that you can do is feel sorry for yourself. Get a grip, stiffen the upper lip, and start paying more attention to things that make you happy. Once you're out of that wasteful, self-pitying mood, start taking a sensible look at what you can do to improve the situation. For one thing: you're going through an experience (which will not last forever); see what you can learn from it.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
1. leaive with it 2. leave it 3. communicate your needs and try and improve it goto 1
Fixed. :)
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Wow, you really caught the zeitgeist there didn't you. What a plainly stupid answer, "MAN UP" is just about the most f***ing ignorant thing I've ever heard here, outside of the Back-Room. This is easily the worst advice you can give. "MANNING UP", as you describe it achieves the following: 1) Ignores the fact the company is more than likely going under 2) Is in fact a way justifying to yourslef a way of allowing your manager to get you to roll over and assume the position. The manly thing to do would be to stand up for yourself, or get another job, not to take it up the wrong'un, as you describe. 3) So what about Pakistan? I' genuinely sorry for the people there, but everyone has their own problems too, doesn't diminish them. A few other observations: The OP is called Meena Kumar, all the Meenas I've ever met have been women. The OP might well be in India (the profile says US, but that is the default). Devs outside the west get a comparatively low salary (in terms of the relative standard of living) so the imagine yourself living in the UK on 2/3 of your salary, then working the hours described.
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Pete o'Hanlon: If it wasn't insulting tools, I'd say you were dumber than a bag of spanners.If he's confident in his ability to find another job, he should "man up" and take charge of his own life. If he'd not confident in his ability to find another job, he should "man up" and deal with it. Either way, "man up" is the right answer.
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Hi group, I hope some of you guys can help me in dealing the tougher condition I am facing. I am working a very small scale company which has a man power of 10. Out of that we have only 3 developers including myself. Since last year, due to recession company started facing tougher times and it brought very tough measures from the management.There are some job cuts in the company. Management can not tolerate any project delays. So we are asked to prepare the tight estimates for the coming project and we have to deliver the project in that tight scope. Preparing the estimates is difficult as there are many unknown variables. So we sometimes end up giving wrong estimates. So for execution we often spend long working day and weekends. COmpany pays bonus for every 4 months and to pay that they do lot of scrutiny. There is a review for that. Every -ve point even if its very small they blow it out of proportion and they warn bonus wont be paid next time. Even if company facing problem they tell that we dont have to worry and during work hours they are very tough to ask the question about project task completions and every now and then we are reminded of the cost of an resource involved in the project. There is no casual relationship in the company and often feel ignored. there is very less talk in the company and we often speak on messenger. ALl this is causing lot of anxiety to me all the time. Mind is not free of -ve thoughts. I get stiff neck all the time and there is always heavy thoughts when I go home until I sleep. Morning same cycle continues. Even on weekend we end up doing some work. so it looks liek there is no escape. Its causing great harm to my self esteem as there is lot of negativity and worried about health. Company is looking for a bigger project but not sure if we can get and even if we get those, will the working environment improve. So help me guys in dealing such tougher times. May be I am weak to handle the situation and ready for the criticism. Thanks Meena kumar
Recent research has shown that the degree of control you have over your decisions directly influences your satisfaction. So here are some hints for being a dev: 1) There is no such thing as a tight development deadline; only an accurate one and an inaccurate one. Keep track of your personal estimates, especially if you continually meet them. Even in tough times managers prefer dead-accurate time lines over an unrealistic one. Good estimates builds lots of credibility. 2) See the situation as an opportunity. Working under deadlines is the best way to become a good developer; just don't take short-cuts. 3) Don't think about work at home; it isn't allowed. As a developer you probably don't own the company and have zero potential for real advancement so there is no point in taking your troubles home. Go home, do anything else but worry about work 4) You are a resource. All developers are and companies may pretend to care but they don't. When there is no project, there is no job ... period. Develop a strong social network outside of work so you don't care so much at work that no one cares. 5) Play kids at chess. It's nice to have a victory some days.
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Hi group, I hope some of you guys can help me in dealing the tougher condition I am facing. I am working a very small scale company which has a man power of 10. Out of that we have only 3 developers including myself. Since last year, due to recession company started facing tougher times and it brought very tough measures from the management.There are some job cuts in the company. Management can not tolerate any project delays. So we are asked to prepare the tight estimates for the coming project and we have to deliver the project in that tight scope. Preparing the estimates is difficult as there are many unknown variables. So we sometimes end up giving wrong estimates. So for execution we often spend long working day and weekends. COmpany pays bonus for every 4 months and to pay that they do lot of scrutiny. There is a review for that. Every -ve point even if its very small they blow it out of proportion and they warn bonus wont be paid next time. Even if company facing problem they tell that we dont have to worry and during work hours they are very tough to ask the question about project task completions and every now and then we are reminded of the cost of an resource involved in the project. There is no casual relationship in the company and often feel ignored. there is very less talk in the company and we often speak on messenger. ALl this is causing lot of anxiety to me all the time. Mind is not free of -ve thoughts. I get stiff neck all the time and there is always heavy thoughts when I go home until I sleep. Morning same cycle continues. Even on weekend we end up doing some work. so it looks liek there is no escape. Its causing great harm to my self esteem as there is lot of negativity and worried about health. Company is looking for a bigger project but not sure if we can get and even if we get those, will the working environment improve. So help me guys in dealing such tougher times. May be I am weak to handle the situation and ready for the criticism. Thanks Meena kumar
Step one (required): Be prepared to leave: Look for a better (or at least better-looking) job, try to create some savings. Step two (your civil duty, or just for the kicks): Point out that this doesn't work long-term You could dare to ask when things are expected to be back to normal. I'd predict an answer that effectively says "what normal? This is the new normal". That's basically a "please leave now, before it hurts you more". Step three (optional, for social treehuggers that believe in changing the world into a better place only): Try to save things The common problems in this situation are two:
- Management doesn't understand the software development process or their role in it
- - you don't have enough power in estimation, management basically forces you to accept their estimates that is based on business requirements ("we need to release that in December, or competition will kill us") rather than puny technical details ("this requires 5 million lines of code. If would take us twice that much just to type it in").
You may want to find a strong advocate among your three, that takes it up with management to remind them:
- Estimates are yours, not theirs
- Creating a reliable estimate requires an implementation specification and a few spikes/test implementations. It can't be created from a product specification. Everything else is a "gut feel".
- Even the best estimate has a margin of error. What if one of the developers gets sick?
- You management is responsible for defining beforehand which features can be cut in case a schedule doesn't work out and the delivery date has to be held.
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If he's confident in his ability to find another job, he should "man up" and take charge of his own life. If he'd not confident in his ability to find another job, he should "man up" and deal with it. Either way, "man up" is the right answer.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001I agree, the OP should take charge of the situation and either get a new job or sort their current one out. All of the suggestions are saying pretty much the same thing, but there are helpful and unhelpful ways of saying it. The problem is the OP is pretty obviously either depressed or suffering from anxiety, or at least starting to suffer from one of these (the "unexplained" neck pains are a classic symptom). In either case the worst thing anyone can do is imply weakness, it only adds to the problem. Unless you have actually been like this you cannot understand how it effects you it totally changes how you think. Its a bit like grief when a close family member of a friend dies. Unless it has happened to you too, you know what being sad is, but grief is on a whole different scale. My point 2 against pompeyboy's post still stands BTW, it is less manly to just take any c**p your boss throws at you. "Manning up" like this is just a form of self-justification.
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Hi group, I hope some of you guys can help me in dealing the tougher condition I am facing. I am working a very small scale company which has a man power of 10. Out of that we have only 3 developers including myself. Since last year, due to recession company started facing tougher times and it brought very tough measures from the management.There are some job cuts in the company. Management can not tolerate any project delays. So we are asked to prepare the tight estimates for the coming project and we have to deliver the project in that tight scope. Preparing the estimates is difficult as there are many unknown variables. So we sometimes end up giving wrong estimates. So for execution we often spend long working day and weekends. COmpany pays bonus for every 4 months and to pay that they do lot of scrutiny. There is a review for that. Every -ve point even if its very small they blow it out of proportion and they warn bonus wont be paid next time. Even if company facing problem they tell that we dont have to worry and during work hours they are very tough to ask the question about project task completions and every now and then we are reminded of the cost of an resource involved in the project. There is no casual relationship in the company and often feel ignored. there is very less talk in the company and we often speak on messenger. ALl this is causing lot of anxiety to me all the time. Mind is not free of -ve thoughts. I get stiff neck all the time and there is always heavy thoughts when I go home until I sleep. Morning same cycle continues. Even on weekend we end up doing some work. so it looks liek there is no escape. Its causing great harm to my self esteem as there is lot of negativity and worried about health. Company is looking for a bigger project but not sure if we can get and even if we get those, will the working environment improve. So help me guys in dealing such tougher times. May be I am weak to handle the situation and ready for the criticism. Thanks Meena kumar
If you're good at your job and you're a hard worker there's no reason to beat yourself up. I ran into this on a 4 year stint where it got worse and worse...the company wasn't hurting due to a recession, but the culture was the same as you describe, rather, it grew to that. If the company gets a big new contract, are they going to fire all your management and start over? If not, it's likely your environment won't change either. There will be other motivators. I ended up taking 2 months off and spent time with my family. It was tight for cash, but I found a better job in the long run - with a little less pay - and we were far better off for it. Cheers.
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Hi group, I hope some of you guys can help me in dealing the tougher condition I am facing. I am working a very small scale company which has a man power of 10. Out of that we have only 3 developers including myself. Since last year, due to recession company started facing tougher times and it brought very tough measures from the management.There are some job cuts in the company. Management can not tolerate any project delays. So we are asked to prepare the tight estimates for the coming project and we have to deliver the project in that tight scope. Preparing the estimates is difficult as there are many unknown variables. So we sometimes end up giving wrong estimates. So for execution we often spend long working day and weekends. COmpany pays bonus for every 4 months and to pay that they do lot of scrutiny. There is a review for that. Every -ve point even if its very small they blow it out of proportion and they warn bonus wont be paid next time. Even if company facing problem they tell that we dont have to worry and during work hours they are very tough to ask the question about project task completions and every now and then we are reminded of the cost of an resource involved in the project. There is no casual relationship in the company and often feel ignored. there is very less talk in the company and we often speak on messenger. ALl this is causing lot of anxiety to me all the time. Mind is not free of -ve thoughts. I get stiff neck all the time and there is always heavy thoughts when I go home until I sleep. Morning same cycle continues. Even on weekend we end up doing some work. so it looks liek there is no escape. Its causing great harm to my self esteem as there is lot of negativity and worried about health. Company is looking for a bigger project but not sure if we can get and even if we get those, will the working environment improve. So help me guys in dealing such tougher times. May be I am weak to handle the situation and ready for the criticism. Thanks Meena kumar
I think what has happened is even though your company is struggling, you have got into a sort of comfort zone and are not able to pull yourself to move out. Start giving a few interviews to gain some confidence (you will most likely be rejected initially but remember you will be learning through every interview). Eventually, you will get a new job and will be able to move out of this situation.
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Hi group, I hope some of you guys can help me in dealing the tougher condition I am facing. I am working a very small scale company which has a man power of 10. Out of that we have only 3 developers including myself. Since last year, due to recession company started facing tougher times and it brought very tough measures from the management.There are some job cuts in the company. Management can not tolerate any project delays. So we are asked to prepare the tight estimates for the coming project and we have to deliver the project in that tight scope. Preparing the estimates is difficult as there are many unknown variables. So we sometimes end up giving wrong estimates. So for execution we often spend long working day and weekends. COmpany pays bonus for every 4 months and to pay that they do lot of scrutiny. There is a review for that. Every -ve point even if its very small they blow it out of proportion and they warn bonus wont be paid next time. Even if company facing problem they tell that we dont have to worry and during work hours they are very tough to ask the question about project task completions and every now and then we are reminded of the cost of an resource involved in the project. There is no casual relationship in the company and often feel ignored. there is very less talk in the company and we often speak on messenger. ALl this is causing lot of anxiety to me all the time. Mind is not free of -ve thoughts. I get stiff neck all the time and there is always heavy thoughts when I go home until I sleep. Morning same cycle continues. Even on weekend we end up doing some work. so it looks liek there is no escape. Its causing great harm to my self esteem as there is lot of negativity and worried about health. Company is looking for a bigger project but not sure if we can get and even if we get those, will the working environment improve. So help me guys in dealing such tougher times. May be I am weak to handle the situation and ready for the criticism. Thanks Meena kumar
Hmmm, I guess things have gone down-hill from a year ago. This is what you wrote:
Hi, I really need you help guys. Now i am experiencing something wierd. I just can not concentrate on work. When I come to office early morning. first thing i do is open my mail, news websites, some movie news some blogs and it eats almost one and half hour. then hardly i do few things then again come the lunch time after lunch i feel sleepy then after 3pm i slowly able to concentrate but then three hours are left .. then i repent i uncessarily wasted so much time. I dont feel that enthusiasm of learning and grasping things and be full of information. Have I grown old? or do I need some excercise? I go home in the evening them my thoughts are just into my work there too i change the mood after one and half hour or soo then again in the morning after I come to office i am unable to switch my mood. Guys just dont feel like switching my mood and work. Am I depressed? Please give me some tips . I want to regain that attitude again. thanks, kMeena.So are you still in Saudi Arabia?It’s not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it’s because we do not dare that things are difficult. ~Seneca
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Hmmm, I guess things have gone down-hill from a year ago. This is what you wrote:
Hi, I really need you help guys. Now i am experiencing something wierd. I just can not concentrate on work. When I come to office early morning. first thing i do is open my mail, news websites, some movie news some blogs and it eats almost one and half hour. then hardly i do few things then again come the lunch time after lunch i feel sleepy then after 3pm i slowly able to concentrate but then three hours are left .. then i repent i uncessarily wasted so much time. I dont feel that enthusiasm of learning and grasping things and be full of information. Have I grown old? or do I need some excercise? I go home in the evening them my thoughts are just into my work there too i change the mood after one and half hour or soo then again in the morning after I come to office i am unable to switch my mood. Guys just dont feel like switching my mood and work. Am I depressed? Please give me some tips . I want to regain that attitude again. thanks, kMeena.So are you still in Saudi Arabia?It’s not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it’s because we do not dare that things are difficult. ~Seneca
AnnieMacD wrote:
Hi, I really need you help guys. Now i am experiencing something wierd. I just can not concentrate on work. When I come to office early morning. first thing i do is open my mail, news websites, some movie news some blogs and it eats almost one and half hour. then hardly i do few things then again come the lunch time after lunch i feel sleepy then after 3pm i slowly able to concentrate but then three hours are left .. then i repent i uncessarily wasted so much time. I dont feel that enthusiasm of learning and grasping things and be full of information. Have I grown old? or do I need some excercise? I go home in the evening them my thoughts are just into my work there too i change the mood after one and half hour or soo then again in the morning after I come to office i am unable to switch my mood. Guys just dont feel like switching my mood and work. Am I depressed? Please give me some tips . I want to regain that attitude again. thanks, kMeena.
Instead of this you need to provide the Link Anyway it may helpful....
AnnieMacD wrote:
So are you still in Saudi Arabia?
I think he/she is in Afganistan.... :-\ One post i found little more interesting than u said....See here.... :doh:
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AnnieMacD wrote:
Hi, I really need you help guys. Now i am experiencing something wierd. I just can not concentrate on work. When I come to office early morning. first thing i do is open my mail, news websites, some movie news some blogs and it eats almost one and half hour. then hardly i do few things then again come the lunch time after lunch i feel sleepy then after 3pm i slowly able to concentrate but then three hours are left .. then i repent i uncessarily wasted so much time. I dont feel that enthusiasm of learning and grasping things and be full of information. Have I grown old? or do I need some excercise? I go home in the evening them my thoughts are just into my work there too i change the mood after one and half hour or soo then again in the morning after I come to office i am unable to switch my mood. Guys just dont feel like switching my mood and work. Am I depressed? Please give me some tips . I want to regain that attitude again. thanks, kMeena.
Instead of this you need to provide the Link Anyway it may helpful....
AnnieMacD wrote:
So are you still in Saudi Arabia?
I think he/she is in Afganistan.... :-\ One post i found little more interesting than u said....See here.... :doh:
Yes, the link might have been better - thanks for pointing that out. But there are so many interesting(?) posts and lots of messages have been deleted. :suss:
It’s not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it’s because we do not dare that things are difficult. ~Seneca
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Hi group, I hope some of you guys can help me in dealing the tougher condition I am facing. I am working a very small scale company which has a man power of 10. Out of that we have only 3 developers including myself. Since last year, due to recession company started facing tougher times and it brought very tough measures from the management.There are some job cuts in the company. Management can not tolerate any project delays. So we are asked to prepare the tight estimates for the coming project and we have to deliver the project in that tight scope. Preparing the estimates is difficult as there are many unknown variables. So we sometimes end up giving wrong estimates. So for execution we often spend long working day and weekends. COmpany pays bonus for every 4 months and to pay that they do lot of scrutiny. There is a review for that. Every -ve point even if its very small they blow it out of proportion and they warn bonus wont be paid next time. Even if company facing problem they tell that we dont have to worry and during work hours they are very tough to ask the question about project task completions and every now and then we are reminded of the cost of an resource involved in the project. There is no casual relationship in the company and often feel ignored. there is very less talk in the company and we often speak on messenger. ALl this is causing lot of anxiety to me all the time. Mind is not free of -ve thoughts. I get stiff neck all the time and there is always heavy thoughts when I go home until I sleep. Morning same cycle continues. Even on weekend we end up doing some work. so it looks liek there is no escape. Its causing great harm to my self esteem as there is lot of negativity and worried about health. Company is looking for a bigger project but not sure if we can get and even if we get those, will the working environment improve. So help me guys in dealing such tougher times. May be I am weak to handle the situation and ready for the criticism. Thanks Meena kumar
Back when I graduated school my first job was for a gasoline jobber (managing multiple gas stations). The boss was a bigoted, egotistical, and abusive boss. Deadlines were tight, expectations were high, and hours were long, praise was absent, insults were common. I got depressed, but finally decided to get out. When word got back, given the boss was well connected in town, he put the word out on the street not to hire me. I felt trapped, more depressed. But damned if I was going to let this happen! I decided to jump ship, not without a job, but jump from accounting to other areas. I started training myself to take a new job, new area, still programming, but now engineering, UI work, and scientific analysis. My longest hours were over 90 hours in one week. ouch. I left, the boss tried to replace me, couldn't even with two new programmers, the company went under. But I was already elsewhere. :) I won't say here is always perfect, but it beats my previous job, and getting better now without CLK. :)
_________________________ John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others." Shhhhh.... I am not really here. I am a figment of your imagination.... I am still in my cave so this must be an illusion....
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Hi group, I hope some of you guys can help me in dealing the tougher condition I am facing. I am working a very small scale company which has a man power of 10. Out of that we have only 3 developers including myself. Since last year, due to recession company started facing tougher times and it brought very tough measures from the management.There are some job cuts in the company. Management can not tolerate any project delays. So we are asked to prepare the tight estimates for the coming project and we have to deliver the project in that tight scope. Preparing the estimates is difficult as there are many unknown variables. So we sometimes end up giving wrong estimates. So for execution we often spend long working day and weekends. COmpany pays bonus for every 4 months and to pay that they do lot of scrutiny. There is a review for that. Every -ve point even if its very small they blow it out of proportion and they warn bonus wont be paid next time. Even if company facing problem they tell that we dont have to worry and during work hours they are very tough to ask the question about project task completions and every now and then we are reminded of the cost of an resource involved in the project. There is no casual relationship in the company and often feel ignored. there is very less talk in the company and we often speak on messenger. ALl this is causing lot of anxiety to me all the time. Mind is not free of -ve thoughts. I get stiff neck all the time and there is always heavy thoughts when I go home until I sleep. Morning same cycle continues. Even on weekend we end up doing some work. so it looks liek there is no escape. Its causing great harm to my self esteem as there is lot of negativity and worried about health. Company is looking for a bigger project but not sure if we can get and even if we get those, will the working environment improve. So help me guys in dealing such tougher times. May be I am weak to handle the situation and ready for the criticism. Thanks Meena kumar
There are thousands like you here and companies (specially small ones) are exploiting them. As far as my experience with people coming from these kind of
slums:~ concerns they get a salary around INR 10 ~ 15k / month, don't have much of knowledge -at least believe that they are useless and are not fit for clearing any interview- and are just dragging themselves blaming the company and what do they want to achieve with that is "this all is companies fault and not mine". And in Delhi a usual autowala earns more than INR 30k / month, so go and get a life - you are simply wasting yours here. My first suggestion will be to give the resignation as soon as you enter you jail / concentration camp next time. Do anything what you feel you can do. I know initially the time will be though but soon you will be able to do something better with yourself. And yes stay away from all those so called friends of yours who are just wasting your time/money and keeping you from doing anything good with yourself. -
Recent research has shown that the degree of control you have over your decisions directly influences your satisfaction. So here are some hints for being a dev: 1) There is no such thing as a tight development deadline; only an accurate one and an inaccurate one. Keep track of your personal estimates, especially if you continually meet them. Even in tough times managers prefer dead-accurate time lines over an unrealistic one. Good estimates builds lots of credibility. 2) See the situation as an opportunity. Working under deadlines is the best way to become a good developer; just don't take short-cuts. 3) Don't think about work at home; it isn't allowed. As a developer you probably don't own the company and have zero potential for real advancement so there is no point in taking your troubles home. Go home, do anything else but worry about work 4) You are a resource. All developers are and companies may pretend to care but they don't. When there is no project, there is no job ... period. Develop a strong social network outside of work so you don't care so much at work that no one cares. 5) Play kids at chess. It's nice to have a victory some days.
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Yes, the link might have been better - thanks for pointing that out. But there are so many interesting(?) posts and lots of messages have been deleted. :suss:
It’s not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it’s because we do not dare that things are difficult. ~Seneca
AnnieMacD wrote:
Yes, the link might have been better - thanks for pointing that out.
Yeah for newcomer its a common mistake. I also made such mistakes in the past... :)
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There are thousands like you here and companies (specially small ones) are exploiting them. As far as my experience with people coming from these kind of
slums:~ concerns they get a salary around INR 10 ~ 15k / month, don't have much of knowledge -at least believe that they are useless and are not fit for clearing any interview- and are just dragging themselves blaming the company and what do they want to achieve with that is "this all is companies fault and not mine". And in Delhi a usual autowala earns more than INR 30k / month, so go and get a life - you are simply wasting yours here. My first suggestion will be to give the resignation as soon as you enter you jail / concentration camp next time. Do anything what you feel you can do. I know initially the time will be though but soon you will be able to do something better with yourself. And yes stay away from all those so called friends of yours who are just wasting your time/money and keeping you from doing anything good with yourself.Amar Chaudhary wrote:
people coming from these kind of slums
I also came from such slums...but now work for MNC
Amar Chaudhary wrote:
they get a salary around INR 10 ~ 15k / month
i think you are saying little higher....Such slums gives salary starting from 3k - 4k
Amar Chaudhary wrote:
don't have much of knowledge
Its not true at all, in such slums u get a knowledge from the base level, learn client interaction, u r the person responsible for analysis,coding,designing,testing,delivering software,give support to them.
Amar Chaudhary wrote:
at least believe that they are useless and are not fit for clearing any interview- and are just dragging themselves blaming the company and what do they want to achieve with that is "this all is companies fault and not mine"
Its true at all but i need to say here one thing if you have the confidence you can get any job you want so in such situation boost your confidence. Dont think if your friend is working in MNC have a very good knowledge. Currently i m working in MNC the guys working around me dont have the basic knowlege of css writing. They only know .Net coding...Starting from there career they are only in maintainace.
Amar Chaudhary wrote:
My first suggestion will be to give the resignation as soon as you enter you jail / concentration camp next time.
I think its biggest mistake you can do, If you leave your current job without getting another job. No one give you the job if you are not currently working.
Amar Chaudhary wrote:
And yes stay away from all those so called friends of yours who are just wasting your time/money and keeping you from doing anything good with yourself.
True at all.
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Amar Chaudhary wrote:
people coming from these kind of slums
I also came from such slums...but now work for MNC
Amar Chaudhary wrote:
they get a salary around INR 10 ~ 15k / month
i think you are saying little higher....Such slums gives salary starting from 3k - 4k
Amar Chaudhary wrote:
don't have much of knowledge
Its not true at all, in such slums u get a knowledge from the base level, learn client interaction, u r the person responsible for analysis,coding,designing,testing,delivering software,give support to them.
Amar Chaudhary wrote:
at least believe that they are useless and are not fit for clearing any interview- and are just dragging themselves blaming the company and what do they want to achieve with that is "this all is companies fault and not mine"
Its true at all but i need to say here one thing if you have the confidence you can get any job you want so in such situation boost your confidence. Dont think if your friend is working in MNC have a very good knowledge. Currently i m working in MNC the guys working around me dont have the basic knowlege of css writing. They only know .Net coding...Starting from there career they are only in maintainace.
Amar Chaudhary wrote:
My first suggestion will be to give the resignation as soon as you enter you jail / concentration camp next time.
I think its biggest mistake you can do, If you leave your current job without getting another job. No one give you the job if you are not currently working.
Amar Chaudhary wrote:
And yes stay away from all those so called friends of yours who are just wasting your time/money and keeping you from doing anything good with yourself.
True at all.
Sandesh M Patil wrote:
I think its biggest mistake you can do, If you leave your current job without getting another job. No one give you the job if you are not currently working.
One thing know for sure is that what these developers can do best is to create small projects quickly with an average quality - and there is a really huge market, looking for this kind of stuff - yes I want to say that going independent is the way forward. Rest is his choice as everybody have his own unique scenario. But what I feel is that if he gave up is job and even start his roadside business (chole kulche and all) he will earn more than what he is earning there.
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Hi group, I hope some of you guys can help me in dealing the tougher condition I am facing. I am working a very small scale company which has a man power of 10. Out of that we have only 3 developers including myself. Since last year, due to recession company started facing tougher times and it brought very tough measures from the management.There are some job cuts in the company. Management can not tolerate any project delays. So we are asked to prepare the tight estimates for the coming project and we have to deliver the project in that tight scope. Preparing the estimates is difficult as there are many unknown variables. So we sometimes end up giving wrong estimates. So for execution we often spend long working day and weekends. COmpany pays bonus for every 4 months and to pay that they do lot of scrutiny. There is a review for that. Every -ve point even if its very small they blow it out of proportion and they warn bonus wont be paid next time. Even if company facing problem they tell that we dont have to worry and during work hours they are very tough to ask the question about project task completions and every now and then we are reminded of the cost of an resource involved in the project. There is no casual relationship in the company and often feel ignored. there is very less talk in the company and we often speak on messenger. ALl this is causing lot of anxiety to me all the time. Mind is not free of -ve thoughts. I get stiff neck all the time and there is always heavy thoughts when I go home until I sleep. Morning same cycle continues. Even on weekend we end up doing some work. so it looks liek there is no escape. Its causing great harm to my self esteem as there is lot of negativity and worried about health. Company is looking for a bigger project but not sure if we can get and even if we get those, will the working environment improve. So help me guys in dealing such tougher times. May be I am weak to handle the situation and ready for the criticism. Thanks Meena kumar
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Sandesh M Patil wrote:
I think its biggest mistake you can do, If you leave your current job without getting another job. No one give you the job if you are not currently working.
One thing know for sure is that what these developers can do best is to create small projects quickly with an average quality - and there is a really huge market, looking for this kind of stuff - yes I want to say that going independent is the way forward. Rest is his choice as everybody have his own unique scenario. But what I feel is that if he gave up is job and even start his roadside business (chole kulche and all) he will earn more than what he is earning there.
Amar Chaudhary wrote:
his roadside business (chole kulche and all) he will earn more than what he is earning there.
If Roadside business is a solution, I say his/her education was a waste. I strongly recommend Try in your field, don't give up until you will get success... I think you are try to disgrade his/her confidence. If you got a right job at the start of your career its your fate. But one day this person will also get a good job. Just he/she needs to try for that. :)