Is Julian Assange
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
shout Fire in a movie theatre, or tell a stewardess that you are hijacking the plane you're on and see how that free speech thing stacks up.
The thing about that is that people also have this thing called property rights, and such actions infringe on property rights.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The thing about that is that people also have this thing called property rights, and such actions infringe on property rights.
There is no such thing as property rights.
Josh Gray wrote:
There is no such thing as property rights.
Wow, what an outrageous thing to say. Who owns your house? Who owns your computer?
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Josh Gray wrote:
There is no such thing as property rights.
Wow, what an outrageous thing to say. Who owns your house? Who owns your computer?
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Hey CSS... don't mind him. He doesn't realize that he owns what he just said. Therefore we own him HA! lol jk No really... funny thing is I talked about this basic stuff in my last show. You may be interested. Playlist: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0AE5234A7A65A226[^]
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Josh Gray wrote:
There is no such thing as property rights.
Wow, what an outrageous thing to say. Who owns your house? Who owns your computer?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Wow, what an outrageous thing to say. Who owns your house?
The government does.* Isn't that what you guys keep arguing when you dispute the legality of property taxes? That you don't really own your property if you have to pay taxes on it? * No, I don't really believe that. Just trying to make a point.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Wow, what an outrageous thing to say. Who owns your house?
The government does.* Isn't that what you guys keep arguing when you dispute the legality of property taxes? That you don't really own your property if you have to pay taxes on it? * No, I don't really believe that. Just trying to make a point.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
don't really own your property if you have to pay taxes on it?
Huh????? Well, you are forced into a transaction with the municipalities by being forced to pay taxes. You pay property taxes, and then they give you fire and police protection and a baby-sitter (aka grade screwl) for your kids. There are many other things, but those are some of the biggies.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
don't really own your property if you have to pay taxes on it?
Huh????? Well, you are forced into a transaction with the municipalities by being forced to pay taxes. You pay property taxes, and then they give you fire and police protection and a baby-sitter (aka grade screwl) for your kids. There are many other things, but those are some of the biggies.
Yes, I know that, and I agree... I was just pointing out that CSS has, in the past, used property taxes as evidence that property rights don't actually exist in the US.
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a champion of free speech or a threat to democracy? discuss.
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Full Disclosure: I have a 22 year-old son in Afghanistan. Assange is a self-indulgent, self-important little man who endangers others in his pathetic quest for relevance. If there is a Hell, it likely has a special place reserved for guys like him.
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Yes, I know that, and I agree... I was just pointing out that CSS has, in the past, used property taxes as evidence that property rights don't actually exist in the US.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Well, property rights here in the US are on shaky ground. As far as land and home ownership, you don't really own it, but instead rent from the state, county, and city.
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Full Disclosure: I have a 22 year-old son in Afghanistan. Assange is a self-indulgent, self-important little man who endangers others in his pathetic quest for relevance. If there is a Hell, it likely has a special place reserved for guys like him.
Alan Burkhart wrote:
If there is a Hell, it likely has a special place reserved for guys like him.
I doubt it, personally I think J.A. is an intelligence operative.
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Well, property rights here in the US are on shaky ground. As far as land and home ownership, you don't really own it, but instead rent from the state, county, and city.
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So you're contradicting yourself in the same thread... Very nice.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, property rights here in the US are on shaky ground. As far as land and home ownership, you don't really own it, but instead rent from the state, county, and city.
Josh Gray wrote:
There is no such thing as property rights.
CaptainSeeSharp replied:
Wow, what an outrageous thing to say.
So is it outrageous, or is it true? Make up your mind.
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Josh Gray wrote:
There is no such thing as property rights.
Wow, what an outrageous thing to say. Who owns your house? Who owns your computer?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There is no such thing as property rights. Wow, what an outrageous thing to say. Who owns your house? Who owns your computer?
I do according to the law, not according to any natural rights. Those that have the power to change the laws could, in theory, take away those rights. So could someone with a big gun.