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I want to buy a computer for virtualizing and entire development network and I can't seem to find what I want! Basically, a newer i7 with 12+gb ram, integrated graphics, and a dvd drive. I don't want to spend money on fluff like graphics cards and blueray players or fancy cases with blinky lights. I may just build it myself but I would rather have a pre-assembled unit. (Dell is out because, well they suck) Any suggestions?
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
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I want to buy a computer for virtualizing and entire development network and I can't seem to find what I want! Basically, a newer i7 with 12+gb ram, integrated graphics, and a dvd drive. I don't want to spend money on fluff like graphics cards and blueray players or fancy cases with blinky lights. I may just build it myself but I would rather have a pre-assembled unit. (Dell is out because, well they suck) Any suggestions?
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
a computer for virtualizing and entire development network
I have exactly that and I had to roll my own. May I suggest either Xen Server or VMWare workstation, depending on how you want to handle the virtualization. 1. VMWare if you want to work on one computer, 2. Xen Server if you want to virtualize the whole lot and access remotely from another machine which can also double up as your development environment. I first tried VMWare 7 on CentOS 5.3 but because of UX glitches that no one I know seems to have I dropped it for Windows 7, but I would strongly suggest that if you go that route, you go for the linux host, simply because of the memory requirements of Windows. One word of advice, do NOT skimp out on RAM or the cooling, I went ahead and got liquid cooled. And if you're using route 1 with development on the same machine, get different hard disks. Never forget to backup. Write it in a script and let it run by itself because you WILL forget.
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I want to buy a computer for virtualizing and entire development network and I can't seem to find what I want! Basically, a newer i7 with 12+gb ram, integrated graphics, and a dvd drive. I don't want to spend money on fluff like graphics cards and blueray players or fancy cases with blinky lights. I may just build it myself but I would rather have a pre-assembled unit. (Dell is out because, well they suck) Any suggestions?
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I don't want ... fancy cases with blinky lights.
Sssshhhh! Instant geek card revoke.
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I want to buy a computer for virtualizing and entire development network and I can't seem to find what I want! Basically, a newer i7 with 12+gb ram, integrated graphics, and a dvd drive. I don't want to spend money on fluff like graphics cards and blueray players or fancy cases with blinky lights. I may just build it myself but I would rather have a pre-assembled unit. (Dell is out because, well they suck) Any suggestions?
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
with 12+gb ram
Do you remember the day when 256 megs of ram was simply awesome?! Moore's law is still going strong!
Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
with 12+gb ram
Do you remember the day when 256 megs of ram was simply awesome?! Moore's law is still going strong!
Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
with 12+gb ram
Do you remember the day when 256 megs of ram was simply awesome?! Moore's law is still going strong!
Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home.
My Articles Developer's Best FriendFirst machine I actually remember "working" on its internals with my dad was an XT. The awesome part was when we installed a hard disk for the first time. Now when I wanted to play my games get to work, I didn't have to do that pesky 5.25" floppy swap thingy at the beginning :) I remember from MS-DOS 2.0 till 6. I remember another machine, a 387 (386 with math co-processor) that ran on 16 MHz and when I clicked the Turbo button, it went up to a wopping 25 MHz! (not that you could feel any change in ability mind you) I remember :)
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
with 12+gb ram
Do you remember the day when 256 megs of ram was simply awesome?! Moore's law is still going strong!
Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home.
My Articles Developer's Best FriendHis Billness is reputed to have stated that 640KB of RAM is more than anyone should ever need. At the time he said it, I had 512KB and couldn't afford an upgrade. Like Mustafa I had to do the swapping 5.25inch floppies thing to get anything done, until, that is, I installed a Hercules 10MB 'HardCard'.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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I want to buy a computer for virtualizing and entire development network and I can't seem to find what I want! Basically, a newer i7 with 12+gb ram, integrated graphics, and a dvd drive. I don't want to spend money on fluff like graphics cards and blueray players or fancy cases with blinky lights. I may just build it myself but I would rather have a pre-assembled unit. (Dell is out because, well they suck) Any suggestions?
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Sorry Ennis, No one has offered any suggestions. I bought my power house from http://www.gcworkshop.com/[^] If you visit the site, you notice that they didn't hire me to design their website. ;) Seriously, they were great to work with and they delivered a top notch PC. That was two years ago. Would recommend them to anyone.
Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home.
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His Billness is reputed to have stated that 640KB of RAM is more than anyone should ever need. At the time he said it, I had 512KB and couldn't afford an upgrade. Like Mustafa I had to do the swapping 5.25inch floppies thing to get anything done, until, that is, I installed a Hercules 10MB 'HardCard'.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Henry Minute wrote:
His Billness is reputed to have stated that 640KB of RAM is more than anyone should ever need.
I find that to a certain extent, MS has done a wonderful job in supporting the hardware industry, from a sales point of view. People forgot just what X Billion instructions per second mean, what a RAM space in the GB is worth. Vista was a prime example. 7 being, IMO, infinitely better, is still quite resource hungry. Why? For the "Ooh shiny!" factor? Well, yes, but GNOME and KDE are doing some pretty nifty things with no where near the kind of resource consumption that Windows needs. Ditto on the server front, I can, and am, running some pretty decent servers on slices of 256 MB RAM + 10 GB HDD. There is no way on this polluted earth can you do that with a Windows server, be it 2003 or 2008. On a daily basis, I'm losing the faith I had with MS. The only thing that I find MS has that has me wondering whether to skip all the way is VS and they're doing a fine job of botching that up in VS 2010, from what I hear.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
with 12+gb ram
Do you remember the day when 256 megs of ram was simply awesome?! Moore's law is still going strong!
Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home.
My Articles Developer's Best FriendThe first system I worked on was a mainframe, with 32k words of 36bit memory - a whopping 128KB! The size of a Commodore Pet. System Startup had to initialize the system and start the OS, the OS had to be able to execute a default assembly in 10 KB of memory, and every kernel module of the OS had to be capable of being assembled in a default assembly. Who needed more? Dave.
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First machine I actually remember "working" on its internals with my dad was an XT. The awesome part was when we installed a hard disk for the first time. Now when I wanted to play my games get to work, I didn't have to do that pesky 5.25" floppy swap thingy at the beginning :) I remember from MS-DOS 2.0 till 6. I remember another machine, a 387 (386 with math co-processor) that ran on 16 MHz and when I clicked the Turbo button, it went up to a wopping 25 MHz! (not that you could feel any change in ability mind you) I remember :)
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
remember another machine, a 387 (386 with math co-processor) that ran on 16 MHz and when I clicked the Turbo button, it went up to a wopping 25 MHz! (not that you could feel any change in ability mind you)
The 387 was an external FPU co-processor. The CPU was still a 386.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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I want to buy a computer for virtualizing and entire development network and I can't seem to find what I want! Basically, a newer i7 with 12+gb ram, integrated graphics, and a dvd drive. I don't want to spend money on fluff like graphics cards and blueray players or fancy cases with blinky lights. I may just build it myself but I would rather have a pre-assembled unit. (Dell is out because, well they suck) Any suggestions?
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Is there no place to assemble to spec? We use M&M[^] - which is a local provider - which is ok for just that. Of course, shipping from germany... I'd pick an equivalent Xeon, with checked RAM (e.g. W3580) for anything servery, though, esp. with 12G+.
Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchymodified on Sunday, August 15, 2010 3:21 AM
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Henry Minute wrote:
His Billness is reputed to have stated that 640KB of RAM is more than anyone should ever need.
I find that to a certain extent, MS has done a wonderful job in supporting the hardware industry, from a sales point of view. People forgot just what X Billion instructions per second mean, what a RAM space in the GB is worth. Vista was a prime example. 7 being, IMO, infinitely better, is still quite resource hungry. Why? For the "Ooh shiny!" factor? Well, yes, but GNOME and KDE are doing some pretty nifty things with no where near the kind of resource consumption that Windows needs. Ditto on the server front, I can, and am, running some pretty decent servers on slices of 256 MB RAM + 10 GB HDD. There is no way on this polluted earth can you do that with a Windows server, be it 2003 or 2008. On a daily basis, I'm losing the faith I had with MS. The only thing that I find MS has that has me wondering whether to skip all the way is VS and they're doing a fine job of botching that up in VS 2010, from what I hear.
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The only part of that I might disagree with is the VS2010 part. My only 'evidence' for that though is from looking at the Express versions of the modules and taking the C# module for a reasonable workout. I am getting far fewer unexplained crashes/lockups etc. in WPF than in VS2008. My workouts are likely to be a little less strenuous than some though. :-D
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Henry Minute wrote:
His Billness is reputed to have stated that 640KB of RAM is more than anyone should ever need.
I find that to a certain extent, MS has done a wonderful job in supporting the hardware industry, from a sales point of view. People forgot just what X Billion instructions per second mean, what a RAM space in the GB is worth. Vista was a prime example. 7 being, IMO, infinitely better, is still quite resource hungry. Why? For the "Ooh shiny!" factor? Well, yes, but GNOME and KDE are doing some pretty nifty things with no where near the kind of resource consumption that Windows needs. Ditto on the server front, I can, and am, running some pretty decent servers on slices of 256 MB RAM + 10 GB HDD. There is no way on this polluted earth can you do that with a Windows server, be it 2003 or 2008. On a daily basis, I'm losing the faith I had with MS. The only thing that I find MS has that has me wondering whether to skip all the way is VS and they're doing a fine job of botching that up in VS 2010, from what I hear.
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I nearly agree - except that Linux rocksTM until you starting different things with it, then the wheels start falling off. HD sound is a great example - remember to make a separate copy of all the sound hard hardware options before updatign the driver as the system forgets the I/O mapping of your manufacturer then "Hey it's Linux just hack it"... X| If you have a working install never update it.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
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The only part of that I might disagree with is the VS2010 part. My only 'evidence' for that though is from looking at the Express versions of the modules and taking the C# module for a reasonable workout. I am getting far fewer unexplained crashes/lockups etc. in WPF than in VS2008. My workouts are likely to be a little less strenuous than some though. :-D
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Everything I go by regarding VS 2010 is hearsay, I haven't tried it myself, but when you hear very conflicting reports, sometimes from the same people, that reeks of a certain inconsistency.
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modified on Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:14 AM
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I nearly agree - except that Linux rocksTM until you starting different things with it, then the wheels start falling off. HD sound is a great example - remember to make a separate copy of all the sound hard hardware options before updatign the driver as the system forgets the I/O mapping of your manufacturer then "Hey it's Linux just hack it"... X| If you have a working install never update it.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
Without a doubt, there are issues with Linux, but I have found that the major distros offer reasonably good support. Of course, there's not much "special" hardware that I'm using except for some Sangoma and Digium cards and since I'll be moving to FreeSwitch soon instead of asterisk and VOIP rather than E1/J1 based comms, I won't even need those. The single biggest bone I want to pick with Linux is the relative inability to move applications from one distro to another. For that, my preference is FreeBSD. There is a formal structure that EVERYONE uses and sticks to. Having said that, I'm currently building my PoC on FreeBSD 8.1 which is smoooooooooth like you will not believe.
Trollslayer wrote:
If you have a working install never update it.
Yeah, I made that mistake once. Thank the heavens I had cloned it prior to committing that atrocious act!
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Everything I go by regarding VS 2010 is hearsay, I haven't tried it myself, but when you hear very conflicting reports, sometimes from the same people, that reeks of a certain inconsistency.
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modified on Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:14 AM
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Everything I go by regarding VS 2010 is heresy
Psssst! I think you might have meant "Everything I go by regarding VS 2010 is heresy hearsay" Although the MS fanbois might think your original statement correct. :)
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Everything I go by regarding VS 2010 is heresy
Psssst! I think you might have meant "Everything I go by regarding VS 2010 is heresy hearsay" Although the MS fanbois might think your original statement correct. :)
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Me typo? Impossible! :-O thanks for pointing it out!
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Everything I go by regarding VS 2010 is heresy
Psssst! I think you might have meant "Everything I go by regarding VS 2010 is heresy hearsay" Although the MS fanbois might think your original statement correct. :)
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Hi Henry, I think Mustafa nailed it: the interverse is infested with heretics, schismatics, open-sauce addicts, open sorcerers. Popular culture is infested with open sauciness in such drive-by-shooter mutant forms as Lady GaGa. These groin-kicking satanic minions that attempt to defile Visual Studio cry out for bringing back the Inquisition, the Auto Da Fe, the Iron Maiden (not the band or their horrid music, but the torture instrument). They brought down the CEO of HP after he doubled the stock price on dubious charges of hanking-the-pank after the Palm OS virus was injected into the company's culture. The sky is falling. You will see more of Ballmer jumping up-and-down: hope his golden parachute does not fail to open. best, Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
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I want to buy a computer for virtualizing and entire development network and I can't seem to find what I want! Basically, a newer i7 with 12+gb ram, integrated graphics, and a dvd drive. I don't want to spend money on fluff like graphics cards and blueray players or fancy cases with blinky lights. I may just build it myself but I would rather have a pre-assembled unit. (Dell is out because, well they suck) Any suggestions?
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
