Windows Live Messenger
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I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Do you want "my" version? It's only 25MB. It's only available as torrent because apparently it's illegal redistribute a free program. I seed it at 1MB/s though so it won't be slow. The only modification I made was removing the pre-install checks so it installs on any OS.
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I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
You should just opt for the lite version[^]
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Do you want "my" version? It's only 25MB. It's only available as torrent because apparently it's illegal redistribute a free program. I seed it at 1MB/s though so it won't be slow. The only modification I made was removing the pre-install checks so it installs on any OS.
I have downloaded it now, so, too late but thanks all the same. I also am not set up to deal with torrents.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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You should just opt for the lite version[^]
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)My core issue is that I have one friend who insists on always appearing to be offline, so I never know if she is there, but only live messenger lets me talk to her.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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My core issue is that I have one friend who insists on always appearing to be offline, so I never know if she is there, but only live messenger lets me talk to her.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Hmm... I only talk to one person on Live Messenger (Well, she's on MSN messenger, but same thing)... I know Pidgin lets me send messages if I already have a chat window open with her and she goes offline... Not sure if it lets me start a new one... Never tried. When I got my latest rig, I didn't even install AIM/Yahoo/MSN on it... Just Pidgin.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Do you want "my" version? It's only 25MB. It's only available as torrent because apparently it's illegal redistribute a free program. I seed it at 1MB/s though so it won't be slow. The only modification I made was removing the pre-install checks so it installs on any OS.
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My core issue is that I have one friend who insists on always appearing to be offline, so I never know if she is there, but only live messenger lets me talk to her.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
insists on always appearing to be off
This option is otherwise known as 'Block This Person' - the person is you Christian :)
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I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
The 100MB is bad enough, but know they are planning on making the next version (Nicknamed "Wave 4") have in-built support for social networking. And from the screenshots I've seen it looks awful. Heres the only decent screenshot I can find on the web of it: http://webhosting.pl/files/groups/editors/software/2009_12/windowslivemessenger/Messenger-Wave-4-2010-Beta-Leaked-Screenshots-3.jpg[^]
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I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
It's just trying to play catch up to Adobe Flash, Nero, Yahoo Messenger and even the damn ATI console. I blame video & voice chat, VoIP support, music support and all the other crap users ask for and product managers gleefully add to bullet lists of features. (Trillian, which I haven't liked in the past but may try again, still clocks in at 12MB. How is it more than 2MB, to be beyond generous?)
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The 100MB is bad enough, but know they are planning on making the next version (Nicknamed "Wave 4") have in-built support for social networking. And from the screenshots I've seen it looks awful. Heres the only decent screenshot I can find on the web of it: http://webhosting.pl/files/groups/editors/software/2009_12/windowslivemessenger/Messenger-Wave-4-2010-Beta-Leaked-Screenshots-3.jpg[^]
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Ewwwww X| Why take a perfectly good thing and muck it up. I need to go find trillion
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
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The 100MB is bad enough, but know they are planning on making the next version (Nicknamed "Wave 4") have in-built support for social networking. And from the screenshots I've seen it looks awful. Heres the only decent screenshot I can find on the web of it: http://webhosting.pl/files/groups/editors/software/2009_12/windowslivemessenger/Messenger-Wave-4-2010-Beta-Leaked-Screenshots-3.jpg[^]
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I just want to talk to people !!! I don't want animated icons. I don't want to send messages about my status. I don't want to be 'updated'. Is that so hard ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I've always wondered if there's a Windows Dead Messenger? If there is, I'd bet money that you could find it in the Windows Live package.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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The 100MB is bad enough, but know they are planning on making the next version (Nicknamed "Wave 4") have in-built support for social networking. And from the screenshots I've seen it looks awful. Heres the only decent screenshot I can find on the web of it: http://webhosting.pl/files/groups/editors/software/2009_12/windowslivemessenger/Messenger-Wave-4-2010-Beta-Leaked-Screenshots-3.jpg[^]
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I just saw a video about a guy who gave up Facebook because he felt it was useless and only got in the way of real social interaction. He said something along the lines of "I have chat, but that's about all I need." Can't wait for his update, "Why I dropped IM." ;P
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It's just trying to play catch up to Adobe Flash, Nero, Yahoo Messenger and even the damn ATI console. I blame video & voice chat, VoIP support, music support and all the other crap users ask for and product managers gleefully add to bullet lists of features. (Trillian, which I haven't liked in the past but may try again, still clocks in at 12MB. How is it more than 2MB, to be beyond generous?)
Joe Woodbury wrote:
I blame video & voice chat, VoIP support, music support and all the other crap users ask for
I am not sure how much users' ask vs "let me jam this feature because xyz has it". I am pretty sure there are noisy users who demand this or that feature, but product managers also go crazy feature creeping all sorts of crap. Long gone are the days where you see good clean products.
Yusuf May I help you?
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Joe Woodbury wrote:
I blame video & voice chat, VoIP support, music support and all the other crap users ask for
I am not sure how much users' ask vs "let me jam this feature because xyz has it". I am pretty sure there are noisy users who demand this or that feature, but product managers also go crazy feature creeping all sorts of crap. Long gone are the days where you see good clean products.
Yusuf May I help you?
Yusuf wrote:
I am pretty sure there are noisy users who demand this or that feature, but product managers also go crazy feature creeping all sorts of crap.
I concur, though it doesn't take much for product and sales managers to wet themselves over a feature. (I've actually worked on features that customers mentioned in passing as a curiosity and later asked why we bothered!)
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I just want to talk to people !!! I don't want animated icons. I don't want to send messages about my status. I don't want to be 'updated'. Is that so hard ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
