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  • C Christian Graus

    I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    LloydA111
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    The 100MB is bad enough, but know they are planning on making the next version (Nicknamed "Wave 4") have in-built support for social networking. And from the screenshots I've seen it looks awful. Heres the only decent screenshot I can find on the web of it: http://webhosting.pl/files/groups/editors/software/2009_12/windowslivemessenger/Messenger-Wave-4-2010-Beta-Leaked-Screenshots-3.jpg[^]


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      What did you do to reduce it my 75mb?:confused:


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      Lost User
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      I extracted the 2 MSI files that you need from the Big Bad Superinstaller, I didn't even compress them..

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      • C Christian Graus

        I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        Joe Woodbury
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        It's just trying to play catch up to Adobe Flash, Nero, Yahoo Messenger and even the damn ATI console. I blame video & voice chat, VoIP support, music support and all the other crap users ask for and product managers gleefully add to bullet lists of features. (Trillian, which I haven't liked in the past but may try again, still clocks in at 12MB. How is it more than 2MB, to be beyond generous?)

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          The 100MB is bad enough, but know they are planning on making the next version (Nicknamed "Wave 4") have in-built support for social networking. And from the screenshots I've seen it looks awful. Heres the only decent screenshot I can find on the web of it: http://webhosting.pl/files/groups/editors/software/2009_12/windowslivemessenger/Messenger-Wave-4-2010-Beta-Leaked-Screenshots-3.jpg[^]


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          charlieg
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          Ewwwww X| Why take a perfectly good thing and muck it up. I need to go find trillion

          Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783

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            The 100MB is bad enough, but know they are planning on making the next version (Nicknamed "Wave 4") have in-built support for social networking. And from the screenshots I've seen it looks awful. Heres the only decent screenshot I can find on the web of it: http://webhosting.pl/files/groups/editors/software/2009_12/windowslivemessenger/Messenger-Wave-4-2010-Beta-Leaked-Screenshots-3.jpg[^]


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            Christian Graus
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            I just want to talk to people !!! I don't want animated icons. I don't want to send messages about my status. I don't want to be 'updated'. Is that so hard ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            • C Christian Graus

              I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              Bassam Abdul Baki
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              Digsby all the way.[]

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              • C Christian Graus

                I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                Dr Walt Fair PE
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                I've always wondered if there's a Windows Dead Messenger? If there is, I'd bet money that you could find it in the Windows Live package.

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                Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                  The 100MB is bad enough, but know they are planning on making the next version (Nicknamed "Wave 4") have in-built support for social networking. And from the screenshots I've seen it looks awful. Heres the only decent screenshot I can find on the web of it: http://webhosting.pl/files/groups/editors/software/2009_12/windowslivemessenger/Messenger-Wave-4-2010-Beta-Leaked-Screenshots-3.jpg[^]


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                  AspDotNetDev
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                  I just saw a video about a guy who gave up Facebook because he felt it was useless and only got in the way of real social interaction. He said something along the lines of "I have chat, but that's about all I need." Can't wait for his update, "Why I dropped IM." ;P

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                  • J Joe Woodbury

                    It's just trying to play catch up to Adobe Flash, Nero, Yahoo Messenger and even the damn ATI console. I blame video & voice chat, VoIP support, music support and all the other crap users ask for and product managers gleefully add to bullet lists of features. (Trillian, which I haven't liked in the past but may try again, still clocks in at 12MB. How is it more than 2MB, to be beyond generous?)

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                    Yusuf
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                    Joe Woodbury wrote:

                    I blame video & voice chat, VoIP support, music support and all the other crap users ask for

                    I am not sure how much users' ask vs "let me jam this feature because xyz has it". I am pretty sure there are noisy users who demand this or that feature, but product managers also go crazy feature creeping all sorts of crap. Long gone are the days where you see good clean products.

                    Yusuf May I help you?

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                      Joe Woodbury wrote:

                      I blame video & voice chat, VoIP support, music support and all the other crap users ask for

                      I am not sure how much users' ask vs "let me jam this feature because xyz has it". I am pretty sure there are noisy users who demand this or that feature, but product managers also go crazy feature creeping all sorts of crap. Long gone are the days where you see good clean products.

                      Yusuf May I help you?

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                      Joe Woodbury
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                      Yusuf wrote:

                      I am pretty sure there are noisy users who demand this or that feature, but product managers also go crazy feature creeping all sorts of crap.

                      I concur, though it doesn't take much for product and sales managers to wet themselves over a feature. (I've actually worked on features that customers mentioned in passing as a curiosity and later asked why we bothered!)

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        I just want to talk to people !!! I don't want animated icons. I don't want to send messages about my status. I don't want to be 'updated'. Is that so hard ?

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        LloydA111
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                        Exactly what I was thinking. I would be perfectly happy with a text-based IM client :-D


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                        • C Christian Graus

                          I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          Rajesh R Subramanian
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                          I'd assume that it can integrate itself with stuff like facebook, twitter and other rubbish. It has new themes, and it can make 100 different annoying noises (simultaneously) when an instant message arrives. This makes it not just a chat app, but much more than that (I'm sure they have a marketing term for that).

                          There are some really weird people on this planet - MIM.

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                            I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            Edbert P
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                            Does that come with Silverlight plug-in? I believe they're trying to push Silverlight adoption via Live Messenger.

                            "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin Edbert Sydney, Australia

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              Stephane Routelous
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                              now, i'm using www.meebo.com[^] webbased, multiple IMs


                              Stephane

                              www.exotk.org

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                My core issue is that I have one friend who insists on always appearing to be offline, so I never know if she is there, but only live messenger lets me talk to her.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                I have one friend who insists on always appearing to be offline

                                You should have just bought the shoes, when you saw she liked them.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  I am installing Live Messenger on a VM. It's 100 MB now !!! How did it become OK for a chat app to be that big ?

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  I had one downloaded few months back about 40MB. But, i still prefer usng yahoo messenger for live contacts.

                                  Ravi S Coding is my birth-right and bugs are part of feature my code has! _________________________________________ Me  Facebook  Twitter

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                                    now, i'm using www.meebo.com[^] webbased, multiple IMs


                                    Stephane

                                    www.exotk.org

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                                    Rob Catterall
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                                    I've been using meebo for a few months, it does everything I need. Skype support would be pretty cool though

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