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    Christopher Duncan
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    By this I mean actually hosting and serving video from your web site rather than linking to youtube, et al. While there are times when youtube poses a great advantage as they eat the storage and bandwidth, there are other times when you want complete control to serve things up natively without involving a third party. That said, seems to me that it's yet another prairie on the wild, wild west out there for those who wish to roll their own. You can wrap your video in a Flash player, which is great. Until you want someone on an Apple to view it. And I'm sure there are various other little compatibility adventures as well, particularly if you want to support a good mobile experience on, at minimum, Android, Windows and Apple devices. And of course, I do. Are there cross platform players out there that you can bolt onto your site that handle compatibility issues for you as well as providing other niceties such as full screen mode? Or do you guys just get down and dirty and write something clever, and terribly portable, yourself? Would that it were as easy as serving up mp3 files...

    Christopher Duncan
    www.PracticalUSA.com
    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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      By this I mean actually hosting and serving video from your web site rather than linking to youtube, et al. While there are times when youtube poses a great advantage as they eat the storage and bandwidth, there are other times when you want complete control to serve things up natively without involving a third party. That said, seems to me that it's yet another prairie on the wild, wild west out there for those who wish to roll their own. You can wrap your video in a Flash player, which is great. Until you want someone on an Apple to view it. And I'm sure there are various other little compatibility adventures as well, particularly if you want to support a good mobile experience on, at minimum, Android, Windows and Apple devices. And of course, I do. Are there cross platform players out there that you can bolt onto your site that handle compatibility issues for you as well as providing other niceties such as full screen mode? Or do you guys just get down and dirty and write something clever, and terribly portable, yourself? Would that it were as easy as serving up mp3 files...

      Christopher Duncan
      www.PracticalUSA.com
      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
      Copywriting Services

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      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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      It is that easy. You can link to mpeg files and most browsers will do their best. Just make sure you encode it with a codec everyone has.

      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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        It is that easy. You can link to mpeg files and most browsers will do their best. Just make sure you encode it with a codec everyone has.

        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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        Christopher Duncan
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        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

        Just make sure you encode it with a codec everyone has.

        And that would be?

        Christopher Duncan
        www.PracticalUSA.com
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          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

          Just make sure you encode it with a codec everyone has.

          And that would be?

          Christopher Duncan
          www.PracticalUSA.com
          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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          Your the one with premier not me :) how about xVid?

          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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            Your the one with premier not me :) how about xVid?

            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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            Christopher Duncan
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            Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines. :-D

            Christopher Duncan
            www.PracticalUSA.com
            Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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              Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines. :-D

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              I know exactly what I am doing and I am not rich, retired or dating a supermodel. I am beginning to think that knowing what you are doing is a hindrance rather than a help. With the current business I am starting, other than the initial base code, I will not do any of the work. I am going to pay, probably out of my pocket, the employees to work for me in the hopes that no matter their competence I will come out ahead by magnifying their efforts. And before you ask, yes I do have solutions to the economy, health-care, and the abortion issue but no one will listen.

              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                I know exactly what I am doing and I am not rich, retired or dating a supermodel. I am beginning to think that knowing what you are doing is a hindrance rather than a help. With the current business I am starting, other than the initial base code, I will not do any of the work. I am going to pay, probably out of my pocket, the employees to work for me in the hopes that no matter their competence I will come out ahead by magnifying their efforts. And before you ask, yes I do have solutions to the economy, health-care, and the abortion issue but no one will listen.

                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                :laugh: Yeah. But do you know Marketing? :-D

                Christopher Duncan
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                Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                  :laugh: Yeah. But do you know Marketing? :-D

                  Christopher Duncan
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                  I don't know marketing. The trick to knowing what you are doing is to not do that with which you do not know; thus appearing to be an arrogant A* hole when you open your mouth. It works for me; the number one adjective people use to describe be is "Arrogant A-hole". I think it has a nice ring to it; and it keeps people out of my office :)

                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                    I don't know marketing. The trick to knowing what you are doing is to not do that with which you do not know; thus appearing to be an arrogant A* hole when you open your mouth. It works for me; the number one adjective people use to describe be is "Arrogant A-hole". I think it has a nice ring to it; and it keeps people out of my office :)

                    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                    And it's a helluva lot cheaper than a fire breathing dragon!

                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                      Just make sure you encode it with a codec everyone has.

                      And that would be?

                      Christopher Duncan
                      www.PracticalUSA.com
                      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                      Copywriting Services

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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                      H.264. That will work for Apple devices and Flash.

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                        Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines. :-D

                        Christopher Duncan
                        www.PracticalUSA.com
                        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                        Copywriting Services

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                        :laugh: Someone once told me I was a good guitarist ... as good as Stevie Ray Vaughn (I'm not by the way). My response: "If I were as good as SRV I wouldn't be standing here talking to you I'd be snorting cocaine off of a groupie's ass in Austin right now!" She wasn't impressed. ;) As far as video goes, I tried serving a few large-ish MPGs off of my own site and at one point I had 50 people connected and downloading the same file at the same time. It pretty much brought the small hosting company that had my site to it's knees. Video is tough. It's hard to make it look good and even harder to serve it reliably. Vimeo[^] might be a better option than Youtube. Their videos seems to have better quality.

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                          By this I mean actually hosting and serving video from your web site rather than linking to youtube, et al. While there are times when youtube poses a great advantage as they eat the storage and bandwidth, there are other times when you want complete control to serve things up natively without involving a third party. That said, seems to me that it's yet another prairie on the wild, wild west out there for those who wish to roll their own. You can wrap your video in a Flash player, which is great. Until you want someone on an Apple to view it. And I'm sure there are various other little compatibility adventures as well, particularly if you want to support a good mobile experience on, at minimum, Android, Windows and Apple devices. And of course, I do. Are there cross platform players out there that you can bolt onto your site that handle compatibility issues for you as well as providing other niceties such as full screen mode? Or do you guys just get down and dirty and write something clever, and terribly portable, yourself? Would that it were as easy as serving up mp3 files...

                          Christopher Duncan
                          www.PracticalUSA.com
                          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                          Copywriting Services

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                          Would that it were as easy as serving up mp3 files...

                          Yes and no! If you just put mp3/mpeg files, the player (may be not all but most) will first download the file entirely and then play it. If you use a streaming server, the video will be streamed in portions. So if your video is pretty short that download approach will work.

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                            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                            Just make sure you encode it with a codec everyone has.

                            And that would be?

                            Christopher Duncan
                            www.PracticalUSA.com
                            Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                            Copywriting Services

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                            Christopher Duncan wrote:

                            a codec everyone has

                            MPEG-1. Quality/size is not great though.

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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              Would that it were as easy as serving up mp3 files...

                              Yes and no! If you just put mp3/mpeg files, the player (may be not all but most) will first download the file entirely and then play it. If you use a streaming server, the video will be streamed in portions. So if your video is pretty short that download approach will work.

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                              And of course, everyone wants a streaming experience, not waiting for a download to then run external from the browser. Thus, finding the right player coupled with the right codec / file format is the secret sauce. As you noted. H.264 is popular, but what player do you use that's portable across Apple, Windows, Android, etc.?

                              Christopher Duncan
                              www.PracticalUSA.com
                              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                              Copywriting Services

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                                :laugh: Someone once told me I was a good guitarist ... as good as Stevie Ray Vaughn (I'm not by the way). My response: "If I were as good as SRV I wouldn't be standing here talking to you I'd be snorting cocaine off of a groupie's ass in Austin right now!" She wasn't impressed. ;) As far as video goes, I tried serving a few large-ish MPGs off of my own site and at one point I had 50 people connected and downloading the same file at the same time. It pretty much brought the small hosting company that had my site to it's knees. Video is tough. It's hard to make it look good and even harder to serve it reliably. Vimeo[^] might be a better option than Youtube. Their videos seems to have better quality.

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                                Girls are like that. :)

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                                  And of course, everyone wants a streaming experience, not waiting for a download to then run external from the browser. Thus, finding the right player coupled with the right codec / file format is the secret sauce. As you noted. H.264 is popular, but what player do you use that's portable across Apple, Windows, Android, etc.?

                                  Christopher Duncan
                                  www.PracticalUSA.com
                                  Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                                  Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                  Here is what you need to do: 1. For desktop browsers (IE, FF, Chrome etc), embed a flash player and use that to play the video. 2. For Mobile browsers use the video HTML element.

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                                    Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                    Just make sure you encode it with a codec everyone has.

                                    And that would be?

                                    Christopher Duncan
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                                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                                    Many sites (TED, OpenUniversity, etc.) offer their videos as downloads in WMV and mp4 formats.  I think that would safely cover the lot. /ravi

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                                      Many sites (TED, OpenUniversity, etc.) offer their videos as downloads in WMV and mp4 formats.  I think that would safely cover the lot. /ravi

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                                      Christopher Duncan
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                                      For downloads that would certainly be safe. It's the real time streaming that I find more challenging in terms of a single, portable solution.

                                      Christopher Duncan
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                                        Here is what you need to do: 1. For desktop browsers (IE, FF, Chrome etc), embed a flash player and use that to play the video. 2. For Mobile browsers use the video HTML element.

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                                        With the current site redesign I'm in the middle of, I'm maintaining two separate paths and UIs for desktop and mobile so as to optimize the latter. The HTML video element is specific to HTML 5, isn't it? But then, if I'm targeting Apple and Android (maybe MS if they every arrive), that's probably acceptable. Blackberry is a lost cause as far as video goes, so I'm not really worried about them. By the way, with all this "we hate flash" stuff going on at Apple, does that just apply to their mobile devices? In other words, if someone is running Safari on a Mac, does it support Flash?

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                                          By this I mean actually hosting and serving video from your web site rather than linking to youtube, et al. While there are times when youtube poses a great advantage as they eat the storage and bandwidth, there are other times when you want complete control to serve things up natively without involving a third party. That said, seems to me that it's yet another prairie on the wild, wild west out there for those who wish to roll their own. You can wrap your video in a Flash player, which is great. Until you want someone on an Apple to view it. And I'm sure there are various other little compatibility adventures as well, particularly if you want to support a good mobile experience on, at minimum, Android, Windows and Apple devices. And of course, I do. Are there cross platform players out there that you can bolt onto your site that handle compatibility issues for you as well as providing other niceties such as full screen mode? Or do you guys just get down and dirty and write something clever, and terribly portable, yourself? Would that it were as easy as serving up mp3 files...

                                          Christopher Duncan
                                          www.PracticalUSA.com
                                          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                          Copywriting Services

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                                          Creating more than one version of a video can be troublesome, and a pain, yet, with HTML5 you can let the browser, including those for the modern mobile phones, best choose the format it best understands whilst also falling back to flash for older browsers that do not understand many, if any, of those HTML5/CSS3 tags etc. http://html5tutorial.net/tutorials[^] http://net.tutsplus.com/?s=HTML5[^]

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