advice for an old c++ guy marooned on windows 7...
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Yeah, the 2 biggies seeeem to be resedit (free) and resource builder $59... Well, can't hurt to try resedit,then rbuilder with vs2010 express and see how far i get. So sdk has c++ compiler in it? it's just command line is all, eh... that sounds promising. 'preciate it!
AFAIK, Microsoft's C++ compiler is free (as in free beer). Or, if you are a bit more obsessive with micro-optimization, you could use g++, which is also free (both as in free beer and as in free speech).
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ok, my oooold copy of vs.net2002 is toast on win7. I don't even want to try that xp compatibility box thingy or whatever. ALL i got is a nice teeny little win32 API (no mfc) c++ app. I'll rewrite anything I need to, but don't make me convert to c# pleeease. I could use VS2010 C++ Express, but it doesn't have a resource editor. And I =nnneed= one. Resource-Builder.com looks pretty robust. Some of you must have already bit into this, so I hope ya got some advice for me other than plunk down over five hundred bucks on VS2010Pro X| I appreciate your patience...:/
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ok, my oooold copy of vs.net2002 is toast on win7. I don't even want to try that xp compatibility box thingy or whatever. ALL i got is a nice teeny little win32 API (no mfc) c++ app. I'll rewrite anything I need to, but don't make me convert to c# pleeease. I could use VS2010 C++ Express, but it doesn't have a resource editor. And I =nnneed= one. Resource-Builder.com looks pretty robust. Some of you must have already bit into this, so I hope ya got some advice for me other than plunk down over five hundred bucks on VS2010Pro X| I appreciate your patience...:/
If you need to work on a single program for a few days, just get the Visual Studio 2010 Professional Trial which lasts a whopping 90 days! (And the IDE may have issues, but the C++ compiler itself is pretty damn good.)
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ok, my oooold copy of vs.net2002 is toast on win7. I don't even want to try that xp compatibility box thingy or whatever. ALL i got is a nice teeny little win32 API (no mfc) c++ app. I'll rewrite anything I need to, but don't make me convert to c# pleeease. I could use VS2010 C++ Express, but it doesn't have a resource editor. And I =nnneed= one. Resource-Builder.com looks pretty robust. Some of you must have already bit into this, so I hope ya got some advice for me other than plunk down over five hundred bucks on VS2010Pro X| I appreciate your patience...:/
I do all my development in XP Pro virtual machines on a windows 7 x64 host computer and have for a couple of years now. You can even use the free virtual machine from sun, forget offhand, think it's called Virtual Box. It works fine, a bit slower than VMWare workstation but it does work and more than adequately I'd imagine for what you need to do.
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Yeah, the 2 biggies seeeem to be resedit (free) and resource builder $59... Well, can't hurt to try resedit,then rbuilder with vs2010 express and see how far i get. So sdk has c++ compiler in it? it's just command line is all, eh... that sounds promising. 'preciate it!
stephen.hazel wrote:
So sdk has c++ compiler in it?
Nope, however
Visual C++ Expressgives you the compiler. :)If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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ok, my oooold copy of vs.net2002 is toast on win7. I don't even want to try that xp compatibility box thingy or whatever. ALL i got is a nice teeny little win32 API (no mfc) c++ app. I'll rewrite anything I need to, but don't make me convert to c# pleeease. I could use VS2010 C++ Express, but it doesn't have a resource editor. And I =nnneed= one. Resource-Builder.com looks pretty robust. Some of you must have already bit into this, so I hope ya got some advice for me other than plunk down over five hundred bucks on VS2010Pro X| I appreciate your patience...:/
stephen.hazel wrote:
I could use VS2010 C++ Express, but it doesn't have a resource editor.
I think it's time to use
Visual C# Expressto write a resource editor forVisual C++ Express. :)If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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AFAIK, Microsoft's C++ compiler is free (as in free beer). Or, if you are a bit more obsessive with micro-optimization, you could use g++, which is also free (both as in free beer and as in free speech).
If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.
May I point out that free beer and free speech do not go along very well. Free speech often follows after free beer, but that what is said often stretches the limits of what is tolerated as free speech.
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ok, my oooold copy of vs.net2002 is toast on win7. I don't even want to try that xp compatibility box thingy or whatever. ALL i got is a nice teeny little win32 API (no mfc) c++ app. I'll rewrite anything I need to, but don't make me convert to c# pleeease. I could use VS2010 C++ Express, but it doesn't have a resource editor. And I =nnneed= one. Resource-Builder.com looks pretty robust. Some of you must have already bit into this, so I hope ya got some advice for me other than plunk down over five hundred bucks on VS2010Pro X| I appreciate your patience...:/
stephen.hazel wrote:
I could use VS2010 C++ Express, but it doesn't have a resource editor
Wha?? Really? Take it's that just the express edition and it's still in the others? It seems a pretty essential thing to drop to me, although I guess if you're writing a directx game you won't need it and maybe that's what the express edition is more aimed at. Hmm you could try an older version of VS in a virtual machine or something. Developing in a VM isn't too bad.
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ok, my oooold copy of vs.net2002 is toast on win7. I don't even want to try that xp compatibility box thingy or whatever. ALL i got is a nice teeny little win32 API (no mfc) c++ app. I'll rewrite anything I need to, but don't make me convert to c# pleeease. I could use VS2010 C++ Express, but it doesn't have a resource editor. And I =nnneed= one. Resource-Builder.com looks pretty robust. Some of you must have already bit into this, so I hope ya got some advice for me other than plunk down over five hundred bucks on VS2010Pro X| I appreciate your patience...:/
Ummm - how about editing the resource file by hand (I know, seems daunting, but it's not toooo bad) and compiling that with the resource compiler that comes with the Windows SDK? Then you can use Visual C++ 2010 Express...
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ok, my oooold copy of vs.net2002 is toast on win7. I don't even want to try that xp compatibility box thingy or whatever. ALL i got is a nice teeny little win32 API (no mfc) c++ app. I'll rewrite anything I need to, but don't make me convert to c# pleeease. I could use VS2010 C++ Express, but it doesn't have a resource editor. And I =nnneed= one. Resource-Builder.com looks pretty robust. Some of you must have already bit into this, so I hope ya got some advice for me other than plunk down over five hundred bucks on VS2010Pro X| I appreciate your patience...:/
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ok, my oooold copy of vs.net2002 is toast on win7. I don't even want to try that xp compatibility box thingy or whatever. ALL i got is a nice teeny little win32 API (no mfc) c++ app. I'll rewrite anything I need to, but don't make me convert to c# pleeease. I could use VS2010 C++ Express, but it doesn't have a resource editor. And I =nnneed= one. Resource-Builder.com looks pretty robust. Some of you must have already bit into this, so I hope ya got some advice for me other than plunk down over five hundred bucks on VS2010Pro X| I appreciate your patience...:/
Why don't you plunk down a lot less for VS2008 Standard?
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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ok, my oooold copy of vs.net2002 is toast on win7. I don't even want to try that xp compatibility box thingy or whatever. ALL i got is a nice teeny little win32 API (no mfc) c++ app. I'll rewrite anything I need to, but don't make me convert to c# pleeease. I could use VS2010 C++ Express, but it doesn't have a resource editor. And I =nnneed= one. Resource-Builder.com looks pretty robust. Some of you must have already bit into this, so I hope ya got some advice for me other than plunk down over five hundred bucks on VS2010Pro X| I appreciate your patience...:/
I too have was looking into a decent Resource editor for C++ I found this a while back, seems OK, and free. http://www.resedit.net/[^] Give it a try and see what it's like :)
stephen.hazel wrote:
but don't make me convert to c# pleeease.
I don't blame you in the slightest! :)
"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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stephen.hazel wrote:
So sdk has c++ compiler in it?
Nope, however
Visual C++ Expressgives you the compiler. :)If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
[My articles]I couuuld be wrong, but i thiink sdk has the command line c/c++ compiler in it. But, of course, I really can't live without the context help anymore.
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I couuuld be wrong, but i thiink sdk has the command line c/c++ compiler in it. But, of course, I really can't live without the context help anymore.
You're right: the "Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 4" provides the compiler (sorry memory failed or was about previous
SDKs). :)If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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Why don't you plunk down a lot less for VS2008 Standard?
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001Wow! I didn't think i'd get this much help! I think I'm goin' with your advice, John. sigh. resedit and vs 2010 c++ express just dun't feel "right". And I just don't wanna mess with a dang vm. Honestly, that's still a chunk of change for a FRACKIN RESOURCE EDITOR... Thanks a lot MS for stranding me on your new os. I spent some dough on vs2002 way back when. And you can't support your OWN code on YOUR new os? (I realize the difficulties here, but COME ON...) Grumble grumble grumble... Ok. I think I feel some ants climbin up. I better go find a kerosene soaked rag somewhere...
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I too have was looking into a decent Resource editor for C++ I found this a while back, seems OK, and free. http://www.resedit.net/[^] Give it a try and see what it's like :)
stephen.hazel wrote:
but don't make me convert to c# pleeease.
I don't blame you in the slightest! :)
"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
I gave it a rather quick try... It seems like pure awesomeness given that it's free. But I don't thiiiiink it'll just pick up a visual studio .rc file and run with it. Probably a lot of "wierd compatibility junk" I'll need to sort through like #include afx.res and LANGUAGE being defined - those are the first things I hit... I'm gonna cave and get vs2008 i think. ALSO dmusici.h is now gone from sdk since directx sdk 2007 which means i gotta go back to multimedia timer - DANG!! Or work through compatibilty probs w that dx sdk X| rats. Oh well, that's the life of a dev i spose...:/
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I too have was looking into a decent Resource editor for C++ I found this a while back, seems OK, and free. http://www.resedit.net/[^] Give it a try and see what it's like :)
stephen.hazel wrote:
but don't make me convert to c# pleeease.
I don't blame you in the slightest! :)
"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
www.resource-builder.com[^] seems to load a microsoft .rc file pretty dang good... i might resort to a microsoft friend's employee discount... if such things still exist X| I can't find vs2008 nowherez :(
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www.resource-builder.com[^] seems to load a microsoft .rc file pretty dang good... i might resort to a microsoft friend's employee discount... if such things still exist X| I can't find vs2008 nowherez :(
stephen.hazel wrote:
I can't find vs2008 nowherez :(
I've tried looking around, seem MS are determined to kill VS2008 and make people use crappy VS2010. You could always look for one of the VB/C# 2005/2008 books, they have have a install CD in for the whole of VS Express, including Visual C++ :)
"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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stephen.hazel wrote:
I can't find vs2008 nowherez :(
I've tried looking around, seem MS are determined to kill VS2008 and make people use crappy VS2010. You could always look for one of the VB/C# 2005/2008 books, they have have a install CD in for the whole of VS Express, including Visual C++ :)
"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
i need 2008 standard or SOMEthing with a resource editor tho... :((
