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  • F Franz Klein

    It is that time of the year again where I need to update my antivirus program. Having looked at various reviews none of which agree I am wondering if anybody has some opinions? It seems the best are (in no particular order): - Vipre - BitDefender - Kapersky :confused:

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    snowman53
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    NOD32 - light weight on resources and has not missed a virus in years according to the virus test sites.

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      I also recommend Avira. I use it at the office and at home. I used to use Microsoft Security Essentials at home, but it was using too much memory and CPU. Then went to the free Avira version, and bought it in the end, just to get rid of the Avira ads :)

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      rurouniRonin
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      Haha! They really make sure they get the most out of their free version with those ads ;) They're so big and red!! I did have some baddies that Avira couldn't remove that Norton did but otherwise I've only heard good things about Avira.

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        NOD32 - light weight on resources and has not missed a virus in years according to the virus test sites.

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        ddecoy
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        Yes same here. NOD32 :thumbsup::thumbsup:

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          Yes same here. NOD32 :thumbsup::thumbsup:

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          Media2r
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          Apart from NOD32 breaking quite a few systems following a false positive the other day. I don't claim them to be better or worse than the competition, just pointing out that they are as fallible as the rest of them. //L

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Never mind keeping the damn thing working: I just wish some PC manufacturers wouldn't pre-install a limited time trial of the damn thing that I have to battle with to uninstall cleanly before I can get anything useful on.:mad: At least McCoffee uninstalls fairly cleanly. Still junk, these days, but easier-to-get-rid-of junk.

            Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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            Corporal Agarn
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            Yep, still trying to get the pre-installed Norton off a computer.....

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            • F Franz Klein

              It is that time of the year again where I need to update my antivirus program. Having looked at various reviews none of which agree I am wondering if anybody has some opinions? It seems the best are (in no particular order): - Vipre - BitDefender - Kapersky :confused:

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              Irikos
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              Kaspersky, using it for a few years now.

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                Lloyd Atkinson wrote:

                Or McCaffee!

                Is that the older retarded cousin of McAfee?

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                Michael Martin wrote:

                Lloyd Atkinson wrote:Or McCaffee! Is that the older retarded cousin of McAfee?

                No, it's a disease you get from eating spoiled burgers.

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                • R rurouniRonin

                  Amen to that!! They should do away with pre installed trial software altogether, if we want a trial version of something we'll get it ourselves! It's always such a time waster... :( Ja nee, McAfee is the worst AV in existence at the moment. I'd feel safer having nothing running than having that running... really, I wouldn't be surprised if there were plenty of viruses and things that use it as a launch platform :| And I stand open to correction but in my experience Trend is also a monster fail at the moment. They unsuccessfully made a release that was 100% Vista compatible that literally drowned the OS and CPU and made it impossible to do anything more than stare at the desktop (because it was hanging). They then released a much awaited update and entirely new version which... did exactly the same thing except the version number had changed. I haven't had problems with Norton/Symantec at all as a single user but I can say that whenever this topic comes up I always hear mention of Nod and lately MSE. Also Avira but that seems to be a more European taste.

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                  rurouniRonin wrote:

                  Trend is also a monster fail at the moment. They unsuccessfully made a release that was 100% Vista compatible that literally drowned the OS and CPU and made it impossible to do anything more than stare at the desktop (because it was hanging). They then released a much awaited update and entirely new version which... did exactly the same thing except the version number had changed.

                  Don't these companies ever test what they release?

                  There is only one satisfying way to boot a computer.

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                    Franz Klein wrote:

                    It seems the best are (in no particular order): - Vipre - BitDefender - Kapersky

                    I answered this ages ago and Code Project lost my post. You Bastard Maunder. BitDefender, been using it for over 4 years, become a reseller, only use AntiVirus and not the Internet / Total Security crap. Reasonably priced and doesn't hog resources or get in my way.

                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                    Julien Villers
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                    I will tell my little story, so you have my opinion on some available free AVs. ;P I just fixed my GF's laptop, was infected with one virus and one trojan (I learnt that along the way of course). I couldn't download Windows Updates, nor some antiviruses/spyware, nor definition updates. So I tried some of the 'free online tools': Trend Micro and BitDefender did work. Trend's found 17 tracking cookies, and nothing wrong. BitDefender found 1 trojan, but wouldn't fix it in the online scanner, so I downloaded the free edition. Before installing, it found a trojan, removed it, that was good. But then, it wouldn't update, so I searched for fixes to that. Searched etc/hosts, no luck. nslookup gives strange result, tracert no route to host. So I checked the DNS settings, bingo, was messed up. Fixed that, and go, BitDefender big scan, takes a long time to complete, and... almost nothing, only cookies. I thought, great, my job's done. But... one of the symptoms of the infection was still there: impossible to put the laptop into sleep or hibernate modes. After a while, I decided to try MS Security Essentials, I started a quick scan and... infection! Found another trojan. Cleaned up, reboot, deep scan, 2 hours later, here's the bugger! A nasty virus, with replicating capacities, which is known for DNS messing among other stuff. Reboot again, and the system is working fine! Sleep, hibernate, all back here. So.... after this excerpt from my life, my 2 cents : Trend is crap, BitDefender is better, MS SE is good, especially for its price. I've used it on my own PC for a while, my only complaint is: it's annoyingly freezing Firefox after a download is completed, for what I feel is too long.

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                    • R Ray Cassick

                      Beats them all... AVAST.


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                      vbjay net
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                      HERE HERE!!! I love avast. I use it on my WHS and all my machines. I also give it to my pc clients when they don't have antivirus or their version is expiring or expired. The free edition is great and the professional is even better.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Never mind keeping the damn thing working: I just wish some PC manufacturers wouldn't pre-install a limited time trial of the damn thing that I have to battle with to uninstall cleanly before I can get anything useful on.:mad: At least McCoffee uninstalls fairly cleanly. Still junk, these days, but easier-to-get-rid-of junk.

                        Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                        Luc Pattyn
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                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        easier-to-get-rid-of junk

                        aka disposable junk? :)

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                          HERE HERE!!! I love avast. I use it on my WHS and all my machines. I also give it to my pc clients when they don't have antivirus or their version is expiring or expired. The free edition is great and the professional is even better.

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                          Ray Cassick
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                          vbjay.net wrote:

                          ...professional is even better.

                          Really? My wife bought a copy and aside from the fact that it adds a firewall (already really have that built into Windows) and one or two other features, I really don't see the big advantages of the pay version. What do you find is better?


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                          • F Franz Klein

                            It is that time of the year again where I need to update my antivirus program. Having looked at various reviews none of which agree I am wondering if anybody has some opinions? It seems the best are (in no particular order): - Vipre - BitDefender - Kapersky :confused:

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                            saman cronus
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                            I think it's better to make a list of important factors, for example (not reducing the computer speed, good support, being up to date, the size of update patches ( for low bandwidth clients ), . . .) then arrange them according to importance. then you will find one. I use kaspersky for my whole company, it doesn't reduce the computer's speed, updates everyday, and you can set it to update every client. but according to Avira and Avast the update patch size is big. Also you can buy kis, so that it provide you the whole solution ( internet security and antivirus ). the interface is user friendly and you can set every small detail like a Network Pro.

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                            • R rurouniRonin

                              Amen to that!! They should do away with pre installed trial software altogether, if we want a trial version of something we'll get it ourselves! It's always such a time waster... :( Ja nee, McAfee is the worst AV in existence at the moment. I'd feel safer having nothing running than having that running... really, I wouldn't be surprised if there were plenty of viruses and things that use it as a launch platform :| And I stand open to correction but in my experience Trend is also a monster fail at the moment. They unsuccessfully made a release that was 100% Vista compatible that literally drowned the OS and CPU and made it impossible to do anything more than stare at the desktop (because it was hanging). They then released a much awaited update and entirely new version which... did exactly the same thing except the version number had changed. I haven't had problems with Norton/Symantec at all as a single user but I can say that whenever this topic comes up I always hear mention of Nod and lately MSE. Also Avira but that seems to be a more European taste.

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                              Agree about the problem with pre-installed trial software. And another vote for Symantec. It is often berated in these sorts of topics but I’ve used it for years without complaint. I use the full “Internet Security” suite on multiple machines and so far I’ve not had a reason not to like it. YMMV. However, as “someone in computers” I’ve had to do my share of random PC support for relatives, friends, friends of friends, etc. When it comes to computer security I’ve noticed this: Novice users typically don’t update their AV data files. They feel safe because they have AV software. Yes, most AV software will update itself regularly but this can be switched off. (I was once asked to switch off updates to AVG because the user didn’t like to see the notification window popup.) Without regular updates it doesn’t matter which AV software you go with. McAfee seems fine unless/until the user buggers up their subscription. Typically it’s because a newbie user entered their email address wrong or something similar. Thereafter, no more updates. Ever. Novice user sometimes switch off AV software altogether because doing so makes their computer run faster. If not running it doesn’t matter which AV software you go with. Security should be “in depth”. That means regularly applying important O/S patches, using AV software (and using it properly), getting a decent firewall, using something like Spybot S&D to protect the browser, and not opening every damned attachment that gets emailed your way. So I’m always nervous when someone asks which is the best AV. AV is only one piece of the solution, and then only is used right. (Sorry if this is obvious to everyone here, just my rant for the day.)

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                              • F Franz Klein

                                It is that time of the year again where I need to update my antivirus program. Having looked at various reviews none of which agree I am wondering if anybody has some opinions? It seems the best are (in no particular order): - Vipre - BitDefender - Kapersky :confused:

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                                Ed Korsberg
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                                I have been using Vipre (www.sunbeltsoftware.com) for about 3 years now and quite happy with it.

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                                • F Franz Klein

                                  It is that time of the year again where I need to update my antivirus program. Having looked at various reviews none of which agree I am wondering if anybody has some opinions? It seems the best are (in no particular order): - Vipre - BitDefender - Kapersky :confused:

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                                  Daniel Lo Nigro
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                                  I've been using NOD32 for many years now, it seems pretty good :)

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                                  • F Franz Klein

                                    It is that time of the year again where I need to update my antivirus program. Having looked at various reviews none of which agree I am wondering if anybody has some opinions? It seems the best are (in no particular order): - Vipre - BitDefender - Kapersky :confused:

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                                    I used Norton for all my System and Malware tools. After the 360 products performance issues, I was bumped off the band wagon. I now use one product as the Resident Shield and several others for periodic checks. I have not found one product to be adequate for everything. They all have some infection definition patterns in common but others that differ. Some are better at Trojans or Worms than others. Some are better at rootkits. Some seem to catch new viruses better than others, etc. Scans with several products find Malware that one product alone does not. Experience has shown me that your needs can be determined by some of the following factors, at least: . What is your OS (Windows, Linux, ...) . Where are you located (USA, Europe, Asia, Down-under, ...) (the Internet is not as ubiquitous as we think) . Where does your traffic, such as email, come from primarily ( " ) . What sources does your Malware vendor use for definitions. I have some clients that are in the USA but have the bulk of their email exchanges with Overseas companies. They seem to get the new exotic Malware sooner than other companies. We tried quite a few packages and found AVG was the best for them. This may not be true for other companies that are technology oriented, perhaps developers, and have traffic concentrated in the USA or one other country. This company has a fairly independent assessment of Malware products: <a href="http://malwareresearchgroup.com/">http://malwareresearchgroup.com/</a>[<a href="http://malwareresearchgroup.com/" target="_blank" title="New Window">^</a>] Overall I use the following on a periodic basis: . Avira . BitDefender . ClamAV . Emsisoft . Malwarebytes . MSE . Spybot S&D . Spyware Doctor . StopZilla . SuperAntiSpyware . ThreatExpert Memory Scanner Malwarebytes and StopZilla seem superior for Trojans and Worms. Spyware Doctor and some others seem most comprehensive but take more CPU cycles if they are resident. I suggest some trials for your specific system. Most of the vendors above have free versions and/or trials. Don't be surprised if you find new Malware that your scanner has been missing prior to now. If you have another product that is the Rosetta stone of Malware protection please share.

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                                      vbjay.net wrote:

                                      ...professional is even better.

                                      Really? My wife bought a copy and aside from the fact that it adds a firewall (already really have that built into Windows) and one or two other features, I really don't see the big advantages of the pay version. What do you find is better?


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                                      It also has script blocking. So if a script is a little nasty on a website it will catch it. I do like the fact that the free edition is perfect for general users. It isn't crippleware or time limited. If you need the extra protection then you can buy it.

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                                        Agree about the problem with pre-installed trial software. And another vote for Symantec. It is often berated in these sorts of topics but I’ve used it for years without complaint. I use the full “Internet Security” suite on multiple machines and so far I’ve not had a reason not to like it. YMMV. However, as “someone in computers” I’ve had to do my share of random PC support for relatives, friends, friends of friends, etc. When it comes to computer security I’ve noticed this: Novice users typically don’t update their AV data files. They feel safe because they have AV software. Yes, most AV software will update itself regularly but this can be switched off. (I was once asked to switch off updates to AVG because the user didn’t like to see the notification window popup.) Without regular updates it doesn’t matter which AV software you go with. McAfee seems fine unless/until the user buggers up their subscription. Typically it’s because a newbie user entered their email address wrong or something similar. Thereafter, no more updates. Ever. Novice user sometimes switch off AV software altogether because doing so makes their computer run faster. If not running it doesn’t matter which AV software you go with. Security should be “in depth”. That means regularly applying important O/S patches, using AV software (and using it properly), getting a decent firewall, using something like Spybot S&D to protect the browser, and not opening every damned attachment that gets emailed your way. So I’m always nervous when someone asks which is the best AV. AV is only one piece of the solution, and then only is used right. (Sorry if this is obvious to everyone here, just my rant for the day.)

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                                        hmm good points i must say now back to topic fuck anti virus use a virtual pc via Virtual Box or use Sandboxie but if you really want a nice security setup you could use use MBAM - Malwarebytes - Anti Malware Comodo Firewall - Firewall AVG Free - Anti Virus you can replace avg with anything really... Comodo is good for people who actually no what they are doing and monitory all in comming and out going packets Comodo also has a anti spyware system built into the firewall and a sandbox, and with the right settings comodo also gives you a nice lil popup asking for permission before a program uses the interner or attepts to delete, duplicate, move etc a file MBAM is good for detecting all malware e.g. Worms, RATs / trojans etc AVG Free i coose this because i like the the active protection and well before i learned a lot about virus's i only used AVG and windows firewall lmao i also think that AVG has a nice and fast scanner and i find it detects a lot of common virus's

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                                        • F Franz Klein

                                          It is that time of the year again where I need to update my antivirus program. Having looked at various reviews none of which agree I am wondering if anybody has some opinions? It seems the best are (in no particular order): - Vipre - BitDefender - Kapersky :confused:

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                                          Dark_eye9
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                                          Nobody knows about Eset Nod32? I have been using it for years and, in my opinion, is far better than Panda, and Kaspersky. And it's famous for taking very little system resources to work, not as Kas. Talking about Symantec, that's just junk, only for installing it on OEM systems and add some more bucks to the price. Greetings :)

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