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  • L Lost User

    'Bout time we had a Republic if you ask me... :laugh: :laugh: It would of been sweet if the Queen had abolished the monarchy today. ha ha ha ha ha ha.


    When I am king, you will be first against the wall.

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    Ollie
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    Just love to see a Royal in the 'dock' having to give their fullname, it could take weeks.... :)

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      Time for me to be totally cynical :omg:, but 6 years (or so) ago when Tory Blair entered No.10, he said he was going to relax licensing laws. He said it at the last election, he said it last year. I'm not expecting them to go through with it this time either. :mad: Regards Barry

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      He said lots of things and made lots of empty promises. I actually thought things would be better back in '97 - I was glad to see the back of the Tories. And what have we had? 5 years of mediocre spin-doctored buillsh*t. Time for a revolution! Vive Presidente Caldecott! :laugh:


      When I am king, you will be first against the wall.

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      • B Barry Lapthorn

        Megan Forbes wrote: David Wulff wrote: Ending bed blocking Sorry, new to living in England - what is this? It's an NHS thing. If you're not on life support you're obviously well enough to leave hospital. :( Regards Barry

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        Barry Lapthorn wrote: It's an NHS thing. If you're not on life support you're obviously well enough to leave hospital I heard the closer you live/are to NHS the sicker you get... :rolleyes: All jokes aside at least you guys have a NHS.

        Paul Watson
        Bluegrass
        Cape Town, South Africa

        benjymous wrote: Saddam Dubbuyuh Hussain?

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          Just love to see a Royal in the 'dock' having to give their fullname, it could take weeks.... :)

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          It'd never happen. I think that if we (the British public) knew about even a fraction of the scandals that the royals have been involved with over the years, we'd soon kick their arses out the country. Buckingham Palace would make a great hotel! ha ha ha.


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          • D David Wulff

            http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2458387.stm[^] The Queen's Speech includes 19 bills and three draft bills. Here is a round-up of the government's key proposals: - Reforming the criminal justice system - Reforming the courts system - Combating anti-social behaviour - Modernising laws on sexual offences - Tackling international crime - Calling time on pub laws - NHS reform - Ending bed blocking - University reform - Employment - Rail and transport safety - Modernising local government - Shaking up broadcasting and telecommunications - Water conservation - Speeding up the planning system - Policing in Northern Ireland - Health reform in Wales - Hunting with dogs - Housing - Nuclear reform - House of Lords reform - Euro - Combating terrorism - World Summit on Sustainable Development - World poverty - World trade negotiations Nothing particularly unexpected there, but still it may be interesting to some of you who express an interest in these things, as I doubt it will get international coverage.


            David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

            "Life, as well as software, has bugs." - Roger Wright

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            Just out of curiousity, what is NOT on the list?? I mean, is there any significant UK government duty that isn't on that list? *Disclaimer - I'm not implying that the UK government is worse off than any other government. Only that the list looks a little generic. Mike Mullikin :beer:

            Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap

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              Barry Lapthorn wrote: It's an NHS thing. If you're not on life support you're obviously well enough to leave hospital I heard the closer you live/are to NHS the sicker you get... :rolleyes: All jokes aside at least you guys have a NHS.

              Paul Watson
              Bluegrass
              Cape Town, South Africa

              benjymous wrote: Saddam Dubbuyuh Hussain?

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              Paul Watson wrote: All jokes aside at least you guys have a NHS. The trouble is that it is badly run - there are now more than 1:1 non-medical staff to medical staff in the NHS. The meals are cooked off site, brought in and heated up. Most of the hospitals are over 40yrs old, etc. etc. etc. :(( Regards Barry

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                http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2458387.stm[^] The Queen's Speech includes 19 bills and three draft bills. Here is a round-up of the government's key proposals: - Reforming the criminal justice system - Reforming the courts system - Combating anti-social behaviour - Modernising laws on sexual offences - Tackling international crime - Calling time on pub laws - NHS reform - Ending bed blocking - University reform - Employment - Rail and transport safety - Modernising local government - Shaking up broadcasting and telecommunications - Water conservation - Speeding up the planning system - Policing in Northern Ireland - Health reform in Wales - Hunting with dogs - Housing - Nuclear reform - House of Lords reform - Euro - Combating terrorism - World Summit on Sustainable Development - World poverty - World trade negotiations Nothing particularly unexpected there, but still it may be interesting to some of you who express an interest in these things, as I doubt it will get international coverage.


                David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

                "Life, as well as software, has bugs." - Roger Wright

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                David Wulff wrote: Reforming the criminal justice system How many times has the criminal justice system been reformed? It's reformed every year with little change. David Wulff wrote: Combating anti-social behaviour Some of the measures introduced here are a step in the right direction. For example - £90 fine for swearing at a police officer. But it's not enough. Then again, there'll never be a good way to stop antisocial behaviour. These assholes will litter our streets forever. David Wulff wrote: NHS reform See "Reforming the criminal justice system". David Wulff wrote: Ending bed blocking They should use my idea of buying some cheap bunk beds. Double the capacity with no need for extra floor space. David Wulff wrote: Euro I'm really against this for political reasons too intellectually advanced for anyone here to understand. Also, the coins are stupid.

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                • O Ollie

                  How about an investigation into the rape that occurred on her property that was covered up by her son? That sounds like perverting the course of justice and concealing a criminal offence to me But of course because they are over Privileged they will get away with it....

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                  If the alleged homosexual rape did occur, then it is the responsibility of the victim to call for charges/investigation to be brough, not the Quuens. If she did anything then she would be abusing her position.


                  David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

                  "Life, as well as software, has bugs." - Roger Wright

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                    Just out of curiousity, what is NOT on the list?? I mean, is there any significant UK government duty that isn't on that list? *Disclaimer - I'm not implying that the UK government is worse off than any other government. Only that the list looks a little generic. Mike Mullikin :beer:

                    Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap

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                    Mike Mullikin wrote: Just out of curiousity, what is NOT on the list?? Well my call to have Tiverton upgraded to a National Cultural Centre of Excellence was rudely dismissed for a start... :mad:


                    David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

                    "Life, as well as software, has bugs." - Roger Wright

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                      If the alleged homosexual rape did occur, then it is the responsibility of the victim to call for charges/investigation to be brough, not the Quuens. If she did anything then she would be abusing her position.


                      David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

                      "Life, as well as software, has bugs." - Roger Wright

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                      Did I mention anything about Queeny her self doing anything about it...

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                        Barry Lapthorn wrote: It's an NHS thing. If you're not on life support you're obviously well enough to leave hospital I heard the closer you live/are to NHS the sicker you get... :rolleyes: All jokes aside at least you guys have a NHS.

                        Paul Watson
                        Bluegrass
                        Cape Town, South Africa

                        benjymous wrote: Saddam Dubbuyuh Hussain?

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                        Megan Forbes
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                        Paul Watson wrote: All jokes aside at least you guys have a NHS. My thoughts exactly, although the more time I spend here the more I can see the merits in the complaints. They do need improvement, and taxes are high in the UK. At first I got really pissed when I saw the newspapers dumping all over the government here all the time, but now I see that a lot of it actually is just contributing to keeping them in line. The people here aren't afraid to raise their voices collectively and so they have a reasonably civilized country to live in. In Nelspruit, in March, a farmer suffered a heart attack. He was taken to the state rather than the private hospital as he did not have medical aid, but only after seeing a private doctor who wrote a letter with the heart attack diagnosis to the hospital staff. The heart attack had caused pain in the man's left leg, so at the state hospital the doctor promptly amputated the offending leg instead of treating the damage done to the heart. Needless to say the man died about 3 hours later, leaving a wife and 2 young children. In comparison to this the NHS looks like heaven, but then people in England find it hard to believe things like this really occur in a civilized country. I guess what I'm trying to say is it's all relative. :|


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                          Mike Mullikin wrote: Just out of curiousity, what is NOT on the list?? Well my call to have Tiverton upgraded to a National Cultural Centre of Excellence was rudely dismissed for a start... :mad:


                          David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

                          "Life, as well as software, has bugs." - Roger Wright

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                          David Wulff wrote: National Cultural Centre of Excellence Does this automatically ensure cable? ;)


                          Ooh, haven't been in a sig for ages :-D - Benjymous

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                            Barry Lapthorn wrote: It's an NHS thing. If you're not on life support you're obviously well enough to leave hospital I heard the closer you live/are to NHS the sicker you get... :rolleyes: All jokes aside at least you guys have a NHS.

                            Paul Watson
                            Bluegrass
                            Cape Town, South Africa

                            benjymous wrote: Saddam Dubbuyuh Hussain?

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                            Paul Watson wrote: All jokes aside at least you guys have a NHS. I'd rather pay for my healthcare. I have been waiting for a hospital appointment now for 8 months, and I doubt I'll get it this year. Some people are waiting 2 or more years for heart operations. Yes, heart operations.I have waited for longer previously also. The NHS staff are fantastic - they work for so little pay (firefighters take note) and do a great job considering how under-funded they are. Unfortunately, a lot of people take their frustrations of the NHS out on the staff. We're just too damn proud of our NHS to scrap it. It's a mess.

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                              http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2458387.stm[^] The Queen's Speech includes 19 bills and three draft bills. Here is a round-up of the government's key proposals: - Reforming the criminal justice system - Reforming the courts system - Combating anti-social behaviour - Modernising laws on sexual offences - Tackling international crime - Calling time on pub laws - NHS reform - Ending bed blocking - University reform - Employment - Rail and transport safety - Modernising local government - Shaking up broadcasting and telecommunications - Water conservation - Speeding up the planning system - Policing in Northern Ireland - Health reform in Wales - Hunting with dogs - Housing - Nuclear reform - House of Lords reform - Euro - Combating terrorism - World Summit on Sustainable Development - World poverty - World trade negotiations Nothing particularly unexpected there, but still it may be interesting to some of you who express an interest in these things, as I doubt it will get international coverage.


                              David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

                              "Life, as well as software, has bugs." - Roger Wright

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                              David Wulff wrote: - Ending bed blocking The best on the list, what is "bed blocking" anyway? ;P Hope it's not a new way to control population. David Wulff wrote: - Hunting with dogs ... - Combating terrorism ... - World poverty Is the list sorted by priority? ;P Maybe it can be combined to "Hunting with dogs to solve the world poverty problem". ;P

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                                Paul Watson wrote: All jokes aside at least you guys have a NHS. My thoughts exactly, although the more time I spend here the more I can see the merits in the complaints. They do need improvement, and taxes are high in the UK. At first I got really pissed when I saw the newspapers dumping all over the government here all the time, but now I see that a lot of it actually is just contributing to keeping them in line. The people here aren't afraid to raise their voices collectively and so they have a reasonably civilized country to live in. In Nelspruit, in March, a farmer suffered a heart attack. He was taken to the state rather than the private hospital as he did not have medical aid, but only after seeing a private doctor who wrote a letter with the heart attack diagnosis to the hospital staff. The heart attack had caused pain in the man's left leg, so at the state hospital the doctor promptly amputated the offending leg instead of treating the damage done to the heart. Needless to say the man died about 3 hours later, leaving a wife and 2 young children. In comparison to this the NHS looks like heaven, but then people in England find it hard to believe things like this really occur in a civilized country. I guess what I'm trying to say is it's all relative. :|


                                Ooh, haven't been in a sig for ages :-D - Benjymous

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                                Megan Forbes wrote: I guess what I'm trying to say is it's all relative For sure. Megan Forbes wrote: although the more time I spend here the more I can see the merits in the complaints. Oh definitley, my silly joke was not based on nothing. Heard plenty of horror stories about NHS from friends in London.

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                                  Did I mention anything about Queeny her self doing anything about it...

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                                  Queen, Prince, it makes no difference: they are not allowed to insitigate criminal investiagations on the whim of a newspaper and a discredited personal aide to one of the biggest hoax's of the last fifty years Diana™. If anything happened, it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the monarchy unless one of them had commited a crime - you can't pervert the course of justice if there is no case being investigated. And yes in a way you did, with your comment about privileges.


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                                    Queen, Prince, it makes no difference: they are not allowed to insitigate criminal investiagations on the whim of a newspaper and a discredited personal aide to one of the biggest hoax's of the last fifty years Diana™. If anything happened, it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the monarchy unless one of them had commited a crime - you can't pervert the course of justice if there is no case being investigated. And yes in a way you did, with your comment about privileges.


                                    David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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                                    for gods sakes lighten up.....

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                                      Paul Watson wrote: All jokes aside at least you guys have a NHS. I'd rather pay for my healthcare. I have been waiting for a hospital appointment now for 8 months, and I doubt I'll get it this year. Some people are waiting 2 or more years for heart operations. Yes, heart operations.I have waited for longer previously also. The NHS staff are fantastic - they work for so little pay (firefighters take note) and do a great job considering how under-funded they are. Unfortunately, a lot of people take their frustrations of the NHS out on the staff. We're just too damn proud of our NHS to scrap it. It's a mess.

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                                      Simon Walton wrote: I'd rather pay for my healthcare. I have been waiting for a hospital appointment now for 8 months, and I doubt I'll get it this yea Correct me if I am wrong but then why don't you pay more and go to a private/non-NHS hospital? AFAIK NHS is supposed to be a "base level" of medical care. Simon Walton wrote: The NHS staff are fantastic - they work for so little pay (firefighters take note) and do a great job considering how under-funded they are. Unfortunately, a lot of people take their frustrations of the NHS out on the staff. I often hear reports on how the government over there is planning to re-vamp NHS and make it better and pump more money in and etc. blah etc. Maybe it needs to fail completely before anything is done.

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                                        for gods sakes lighten up.....

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                                        Excuse me? :confused:


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                                          David Wulff wrote: Reforming the criminal justice system How many times has the criminal justice system been reformed? It's reformed every year with little change. David Wulff wrote: Combating anti-social behaviour Some of the measures introduced here are a step in the right direction. For example - £90 fine for swearing at a police officer. But it's not enough. Then again, there'll never be a good way to stop antisocial behaviour. These assholes will litter our streets forever. David Wulff wrote: NHS reform See "Reforming the criminal justice system". David Wulff wrote: Ending bed blocking They should use my idea of buying some cheap bunk beds. Double the capacity with no need for extra floor space. David Wulff wrote: Euro I'm really against this for political reasons too intellectually advanced for anyone here to understand. Also, the coins are stupid.

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                                          Simon Walton wrote: Euro I'm really against this for political reasons too intellectually advanced for anyone here to understand. Also, the coins are stupid. ooOOOOO!!! Go on then give us a try. Personally, its just an oportunity for Luxembourg to tighten its grip.

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