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  • D Dalek Dave

    Were they put in for error control?

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    Super Lloyd
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    I'm (not) sorry to say that I handle such condition with try {} finally {} so, no, no error handling! Muhahaha.... ;P

    A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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    • S Super Lloyd

      I'm (not) sorry to say that I handle such condition with try {} finally {} so, no, no error handling! Muhahaha.... ;P

      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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      Dalek Dave
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      I often use

      On Error GoTo MyErrorTrap

      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        I had to 'have words' with one fo my minions today for using them there things. We're working in C# ffs, there was no need at all.


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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        Super Lloyd
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        I thought about it and... despite my initial inflamatory intention I'm thinking we could both gain by showing you what I did, who knows one of 2 thing might even happen!! 1. maybe you'll think this is a good goto! 2. maybe you'll give me good work around so, here you go (veil your eyes, code in the lounge) please remove the goto in the nice fashion or hold your peace forever!

        for(...)
        {
        avar = calculation()
        if(avar == someValue)
        goto doStuff;
        avar2 = someOtherCalculation();
        if(avar2 == someValue2)
        goto doStuff;
        continue;
        doStuff:;
        localVar.UpdateNicely();
        }

        A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          I often use

          On Error GoTo MyErrorTrap

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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          Super Lloyd
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          #9

          Ok, maybe I should say what I did, so maybe an anti-goto purist can give me tips on how to write goto-less nice code in such circumstances... (or become less anti goto) so here we go, that's what I wrote (veil your eyes, code in the lounge!)

          for(...)
          {
          avar = calculation()
          if(avar == someValue)
          goto doStuff;
          avar2 = someOtherCalculation();
          if(avar2 == someValue2)
          goto doStuff;
          continue;
          doStuff:;
          localVar.UpdateNicely();
          }

          A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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          • S Super Lloyd

            Ok, maybe I should say what I did, so maybe an anti-goto purist can give me tips on how to write goto-less nice code in such circumstances... (or become less anti goto) so here we go, that's what I wrote (veil your eyes, code in the lounge!)

            for(...)
            {
            avar = calculation()
            if(avar == someValue)
            goto doStuff;
            avar2 = someOtherCalculation();
            if(avar2 == someValue2)
            goto doStuff;
            continue;
            doStuff:;
            localVar.UpdateNicely();
            }

            A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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            Dalek Dave
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            Repost! :)

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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            • D Dalek Dave

              I often use

              On Error GoTo MyErrorTrap

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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              AspDotNetDev
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              Delete this post before everybody sees and you are shamed!

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              • S Super Lloyd

                Ok, maybe I should say what I did, so maybe an anti-goto purist can give me tips on how to write goto-less nice code in such circumstances... (or become less anti goto) so here we go, that's what I wrote (veil your eyes, code in the lounge!)

                for(...)
                {
                avar = calculation()
                if(avar == someValue)
                goto doStuff;
                avar2 = someOtherCalculation();
                if(avar2 == someValue2)
                goto doStuff;
                continue;
                doStuff:;
                localVar.UpdateNicely();
                }

                A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                Luc Pattyn
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                You really should read part 2 of your Language Reference Manual, in particular the chapters on logical operators and short-circuitry.

                for (...) {
                if (calculation()==someValue || someOtherCalculation()==someValue2) localVar.UpdateNicely();
                }

                Readability is the key concern here. :)

                Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, and improve readability.

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                • A AspDotNetDev

                  Delete this post before everybody sees and you are shamed!

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                  Dalek Dave
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                  #13

                  Early 80's programming is in my blood! I just can't let go of them goto statements :)

                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                  • L Luc Pattyn

                    You really should read part 2 of your Language Reference Manual, in particular the chapters on logical operators and short-circuitry.

                    for (...) {
                    if (calculation()==someValue || someOtherCalculation()==someValue2) localVar.UpdateNicely();
                    }

                    Readability is the key concern here. :)

                    Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                    Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, and improve readability.

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    That's actually a nice bit of code. I have much to learm :sigh:

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                    • S Super Lloyd

                      Ok, maybe I should say what I did, so maybe an anti-goto purist can give me tips on how to write goto-less nice code in such circumstances... (or become less anti goto) so here we go, that's what I wrote (veil your eyes, code in the lounge!)

                      for(...)
                      {
                      avar = calculation()
                      if(avar == someValue)
                      goto doStuff;
                      avar2 = someOtherCalculation();
                      if(avar2 == someValue2)
                      goto doStuff;
                      continue;
                      doStuff:;
                      localVar.UpdateNicely();
                      }

                      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                      Peter_in_2780
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                      How about

                      for(...)
                      {
                      avar = calculation()
                      if(avar != someValue)
                      {
                      avar2 = someOtherCalculation();
                      if(avar2 != someValue2)
                      continue;
                      }
                      localVar.UpdateNicely();
                      }

                      The point is basically that

                      if (something)
                      goto somewhere
                      more_stuff;
                      somewhere:

                      is equivalent to

                      if (!something)
                      more_stuff;

                      and you've just got two of them nested. Cheers from one who thinks coding standards are generally a good thing but do not represent ultimate authority. Peter

                      Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994.

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                      • L Luc Pattyn

                        You really should read part 2 of your Language Reference Manual, in particular the chapters on logical operators and short-circuitry.

                        for (...) {
                        if (calculation()==someValue || someOtherCalculation()==someValue2) localVar.UpdateNicely();
                        }

                        Readability is the key concern here. :)

                        Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                        Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, and improve readability.

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                        Super Lloyd
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                        #16

                        well, I wanted to use some simple pseudo code, but the statement "var1 = calculation()" is really a multi inner variable multiline statement with a more complex statement. I guess I can replace it with a private static variable with heaps of ref variable just or the sake of writing such statement as you sugest, but I won't!

                        A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                        • S Super Lloyd

                          I thought about it and... despite my initial inflamatory intention I'm thinking we could both gain by showing you what I did, who knows one of 2 thing might even happen!! 1. maybe you'll think this is a good goto! 2. maybe you'll give me good work around so, here you go (veil your eyes, code in the lounge) please remove the goto in the nice fashion or hold your peace forever!

                          for(...)
                          {
                          avar = calculation()
                          if(avar == someValue)
                          goto doStuff;
                          avar2 = someOtherCalculation();
                          if(avar2 == someValue2)
                          goto doStuff;
                          continue;
                          doStuff:;
                          localVar.UpdateNicely();
                          }

                          A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                          AspDotNetDev
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                          #17

                          No excuse!

                          for(...)
                          {
                          if(calc() == v || calc2() == v2)
                          {
                          localVar.UpdateNicely();
                          }
                          }

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                          • L Luc Pattyn

                            You really should read part 2 of your Language Reference Manual, in particular the chapters on logical operators and short-circuitry.

                            for (...) {
                            if (calculation()==someValue || someOtherCalculation()==someValue2) localVar.UpdateNicely();
                            }

                            Readability is the key concern here. :)

                            Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                            Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, and improve readability.

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                            AspDotNetDev
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                            #18

                            Dang, you beat me.

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                            • P Peter_in_2780

                              How about

                              for(...)
                              {
                              avar = calculation()
                              if(avar != someValue)
                              {
                              avar2 = someOtherCalculation();
                              if(avar2 != someValue2)
                              continue;
                              }
                              localVar.UpdateNicely();
                              }

                              The point is basically that

                              if (something)
                              goto somewhere
                              more_stuff;
                              somewhere:

                              is equivalent to

                              if (!something)
                              more_stuff;

                              and you've just got two of them nested. Cheers from one who thinks coding standards are generally a good thing but do not represent ultimate authority. Peter

                              Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994.

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                              Super Lloyd
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                              #19

                              Indeed that will do! :thumbsup: :) However.... I do prefer goto to multiple nested statement! ;P

                              A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                              • A AspDotNetDev

                                Dang, you beat me.

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                                Luc Pattyn
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                                #20

                                the advantage of a keyboard with a very short cable. :)

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                                • S Super Lloyd

                                  Indeed that will do! :thumbsup: :) However.... I do prefer goto to multiple nested statement! ;P

                                  A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                                  Dalek Dave
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                                  It's neater.

                                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                                  • L Luc Pattyn

                                    You really should read part 2 of your Language Reference Manual, in particular the chapters on logical operators and short-circuitry.

                                    for (...) {
                                    if (calculation()==someValue || someOtherCalculation()==someValue2) localVar.UpdateNicely();
                                    }

                                    Readability is the key concern here. :)

                                    Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                                    Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, and improve readability.

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                                    Super Lloyd
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                                    #22

                                    there is the matter of avoiding goto, but this is no big deal, the real challenge is to do it in aesthetic and readable way! Well, I guess it's a subjective matter... But just to give you better chance, here is the real code. I think goto is the most elegant / beautiful solution. I invite you to show me the beauty of avoiding goto! (Although.. being a subjective thing... well....) Here we go:

                                    for (int i = max; i >= min; i--)
                                    {
                                    var v1 = new Vector2D(points[i > 0 ? i - 1 : points.Count - 1], points[i]);
                                    var v2 = new Vector2D(points[i], points[i < points.Count - 1 ? i + 1 : 0]);
                                    if (v1.SquareNorm <= MINL || v2.SquareNorm <= MINL)
                                    goto RemovePoint;
                                    v1 = v1.Normalize(); // divide by zero if test above fail
                                    v2 = v2.Normalize();
                                    var z = v1 ^ v2;
                                    if (Math.Abs(z) <= minsin && v1 * v2 < 0)
                                    goto RemovePoint;
                                    continue;
                                    RemovePoint: ;
                                    points.RemoveAt(i);
                                    if (points.Count < 3)
                                    return null;
                                    }

                                    A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

                                    modified on Thursday, September 9, 2010 8:31 PM

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                                    • S Super Lloyd

                                      Yesterday I wrote no less than 2 gotos in my C# code! [Edit2] This guy[^] found a satisfying refactoring! One which doesn't tax my (limited brain) memory with nested block, additional variable, additional test, increased cyclomatic complexity! (In fact the cyclomatic complexity is reduced by 1, I think) Well done! :thumbsup: :cool: :-D [EDIT] For your information the real code is below. So far no one has come up with a non goto version which can beat the goto version on any of those 4 criteria: - number of line of code (less) - number of if (less) - number of nested block (less) - number of variables (less) -- code --

                                      for (int i = max; i >= min; i--)
                                      {
                                      var v1 = new Vector2D(points[i > 0 ? i - 1 : points.Count - 1], points[i]);
                                      var v2 = new Vector2D(points[i], points[i < points.Count - 1 ? i + 1 : 0]);
                                      if (v1.SquareNorm <= MINL || v2.SquareNorm <= MINL)
                                      goto RemovePoint;
                                      v1 = v1.Normalize(); // divide by zero if square norm is 0 (test above)
                                      v2 = v2.Normalize();
                                      var z = v1 ^ v2;
                                      if (Math.Abs(z) <= minsin && v1 * v2 < 0)
                                      goto RemovePoint;
                                      continue;
                                      RemovePoint: ;
                                      points.RemoveAt(i);
                                      if (points.Count < 3)
                                      return null;
                                      }

                                      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

                                      modified on Friday, September 10, 2010 10:53 AM

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      Until I did some refactoring today I had a method with three return statements! :omg: (They were to avoid a goto to abort a nested loop.)

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                                      • S Super Lloyd

                                        Yesterday I wrote no less than 2 gotos in my C# code! [Edit2] This guy[^] found a satisfying refactoring! One which doesn't tax my (limited brain) memory with nested block, additional variable, additional test, increased cyclomatic complexity! (In fact the cyclomatic complexity is reduced by 1, I think) Well done! :thumbsup: :cool: :-D [EDIT] For your information the real code is below. So far no one has come up with a non goto version which can beat the goto version on any of those 4 criteria: - number of line of code (less) - number of if (less) - number of nested block (less) - number of variables (less) -- code --

                                        for (int i = max; i >= min; i--)
                                        {
                                        var v1 = new Vector2D(points[i > 0 ? i - 1 : points.Count - 1], points[i]);
                                        var v2 = new Vector2D(points[i], points[i < points.Count - 1 ? i + 1 : 0]);
                                        if (v1.SquareNorm <= MINL || v2.SquareNorm <= MINL)
                                        goto RemovePoint;
                                        v1 = v1.Normalize(); // divide by zero if square norm is 0 (test above)
                                        v2 = v2.Normalize();
                                        var z = v1 ^ v2;
                                        if (Math.Abs(z) <= minsin && v1 * v2 < 0)
                                        goto RemovePoint;
                                        continue;
                                        RemovePoint: ;
                                        points.RemoveAt(i);
                                        if (points.Count < 3)
                                        return null;
                                        }

                                        A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

                                        modified on Friday, September 10, 2010 10:53 AM

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                                        AspDotNetDev
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                                        The only acceptable place I've found for a goto is within a switch block. After all, the "labels" are already defined.

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                                        • S Super Lloyd

                                          well, I wanted to use some simple pseudo code, but the statement "var1 = calculation()" is really a multi inner variable multiline statement with a more complex statement. I guess I can replace it with a private static variable with heaps of ref variable just or the sake of writing such statement as you sugest, but I won't!

                                          A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                                          Luc Pattyn
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                                          Well, the complexity of avar1 = someCalculation(); isn't relevant, you can do it upfront anyway. The complexity of avar2 = someOtherCalculation(); is what matters. If it can't be put in the middle of the if clause, I'd use a boolean flag, like so:

                                          for (...) {
                                          bool updateWanted=false;
                                          if (calculation()==someValue) updateWanted=true;
                                          else if (someOtherCalculation()==someValue2) updateWanted=true;
                                          if (updateWanted) localVar.UpdateNicely();
                                          }

                                          and now you can easily expand line 4 (and 3) as required. :)

                                          Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                                          Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, and improve readability.

                                          modified on Thursday, September 9, 2010 8:52 PM

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