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WPF is dead? A sane voice in the madness

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  • S Simon P Stevens

    Finally, someone has said something sensible about all this stupid "WPF is dead" nonsense - Mike Taulty explains that WPF is most certainly not dead[^] [As an aside, I'm going to be watching Mike talk about the Silverlight network stack[^] tonight, so if anyone else is around come say hi.]

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    peterchen
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    I like that: and in an amazing 180 degree reversal of our usual approach, we took an ugly codename and created a great product name (Silverlight) from it.”

    Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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    • M Mycroft Holmes

      Nah VB is like a bloody cockroach, you'll never get rid of it!

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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      Vermin.

      Two heads are better than one.

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      • S Simon P Stevens

        Finally, someone has said something sensible about all this stupid "WPF is dead" nonsense - Mike Taulty explains that WPF is most certainly not dead[^] [As an aside, I'm going to be watching Mike talk about the Silverlight network stack[^] tonight, so if anyone else is around come say hi.]

        Simon

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        Nemanja Trifunovic
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        WPF is not dead (yet :) ) but it ceirtanly fell short of the original promise to be *the* GUI API for post - XP Windows and completely replace WinAPI. If you want to know what technologies Microsoft is betting on, look at Windows and Office, not Visual Studio.

        utf8-cpp

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        • N NormDroid

          Vermin.

          Two heads are better than one.

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          rurouniRonin
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          There's nothing wrong with VB, it's the coders that use it poorly that are the culprits :(

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          • S Simon P Stevens

            Finally, someone has said something sensible about all this stupid "WPF is dead" nonsense - Mike Taulty explains that WPF is most certainly not dead[^] [As an aside, I'm going to be watching Mike talk about the Silverlight network stack[^] tonight, so if anyone else is around come say hi.]

            Simon

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            Darren M Jackson
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            It's not dead; it's resting... Or it's, ah...probably pining for the fjords.

            It's turtles all the way down.

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            • D Darren M Jackson

              It's not dead; it's resting... Or it's, ah...probably pining for the fjords.

              It's turtles all the way down.

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              simpelman
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              If WPF is dead then what is alive?

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              • R rurouniRonin

                There's nothing wrong with VB, it's the coders that use it poorly that are the culprits :(

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                Gary Wheeler
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                More vermin.

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                • H hairy_hats

                  Thankfully. WPF is a layer of abstraction too far IMO.

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                  Gary Wheeler
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                  How much have you used it? While WPF is rather large and has a moderately steep learning curve, it certainly makes a lot of complex UI tasks easier.

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  • S Simon P Stevens

                    Finally, someone has said something sensible about all this stupid "WPF is dead" nonsense - Mike Taulty explains that WPF is most certainly not dead[^] [As an aside, I'm going to be watching Mike talk about the Silverlight network stack[^] tonight, so if anyone else is around come say hi.]

                    Simon

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                    Steve Naidamast
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                    Who cares ??? So its dead, alive, in limbo... Its just another technology to add to the boat load of new things everyone has to learn in order to do the same thing developers have been doing for years...

                    Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@ix.netcom.com

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                    • A Abhinav S

                      He says Winforms isnt dead either though.

                      The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.

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                      Fabio Franco
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                      And it's most certainly not. Just watch the ammount of threads on MSDN Windows Forms General[^] forum. It's very active.

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                      • S Steve Naidamast

                        Who cares ??? So its dead, alive, in limbo... Its just another technology to add to the boat load of new things everyone has to learn in order to do the same thing developers have been doing for years...

                        Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@ix.netcom.com

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                        Lost User
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                        Steve Naidamast wrote:

                        Who cares ??? So its dead, alive, in limbo... Its just another technology to add to the boat load of new things everyone has to learn in order to do the same thing developers have been doing for years...

                        I could not have said it better myself! -Max :D

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                          Steve Naidamast wrote:

                          Who cares ??? So its dead, alive, in limbo... Its just another technology to add to the boat load of new things everyone has to learn in order to do the same thing developers have been doing for years...

                          I could not have said it better myself! -Max :D

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                          Herbrandson
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                          I couldn't disagree more :) Would you say the same thing about... .Net MFC C++ C Assembly All of these technologies _only_ allowed developers "to do the same thing developers have been doing for years".

                          http://software.herbrandson.com

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                            Vermin.

                            Two heads are better than one.

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                            Glosse
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                            Kill C#. Who needs case sensitive coding and all those crappy sqiggly things?

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                            • M Mycroft Holmes

                              Nah VB is like a bloody cockroach, you'll never get rid of it!

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              There's nowt wrong with VB, and, let's be honest about this, you know it.

                              There is only one satisfying way to boot a computer.

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                              • S Simon P Stevens

                                Finally, someone has said something sensible about all this stupid "WPF is dead" nonsense - Mike Taulty explains that WPF is most certainly not dead[^] [As an aside, I'm going to be watching Mike talk about the Silverlight network stack[^] tonight, so if anyone else is around come say hi.]

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                                grgran
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                                I didn't even know it was dead, now you point me to something that tells me it's not ... this is almost half as confusing as working with WPF is. At least WPF is still around and still programmer hostile, undiscoverable, non-intuitive and just plan weird in places ... thank buddha for Expression Blend 4.0, that's an app that makes hand coding in notepad down right desirable. BTW I think the Message Type should be built with checkboxes rather than radio buttons cause this is part rant, part joke (ok, mostly rant, ok radio buttons are ok ;P ).

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                                  There's nowt wrong with VB, and, let's be honest about this, you know it.

                                  There is only one satisfying way to boot a computer.

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                                  Mycroft Holmes
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                                  Euhemerus wrote:

                                  let's be honest about this

                                  True, and I spent many years in it until I moved to c#. My only issue is that VBA developers tend to move into VB.net and that path is well worn.

                                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    There's nothing wrong with VB, it's the coders that use it poorly that are the culprits :(

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                                    Sterling Camden independent consultant
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                                    There's nothing wrong with Bubonic Plague, it's the victims who carry it poorly that are the culprits

                                    Contains coding, but not narcotic.

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                                      I couldn't disagree more :) Would you say the same thing about... .Net MFC C++ C Assembly All of these technologies _only_ allowed developers "to do the same thing developers have been doing for years".

                                      http://software.herbrandson.com

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                                      Sterling Camden independent consultant
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                                      I think you inadvertently supported his point.

                                      Contains coding, but not narcotic.

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                                        It's not dead; it's resting... Or it's, ah...probably pining for the fjords.

                                        It's turtles all the way down.

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                                        Sterling Camden independent consultant
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                                        That is not dead which can eternal lie. And we all know that Microsoft can eternal lie.

                                        Contains coding, but not narcotic.

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                                        • S Sterling Camden independent consultant

                                          I think you inadvertently supported his point.

                                          Contains coding, but not narcotic.

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                                          Herbrandson
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                                          Maybe I misunderstand his point then :( I take his point to be: WPF is a technology that is just a different way to do something we could already do and doesn't provide any real/new value. My response to that is: Yes, I can write a WinForms app using MFC, but it's a lot easier to use .Net instead. Likewise, I can make a highly styled application in WinForms, but it's a lot easier in WPF.

                                          http://software.herbrandson.com

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