Non Disclosure of Work Visa Status on CV - Pass or Fail?
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If they don't have visas and you employ them then you are breaking the law and can be prosecuted. Probably best to check first.
It's time for a new signature.
Agreed, the punishment is worse for the employer who fails to check than it is for the employee who fails to tell!
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Normally I would say fail straight away, but my two best candidates both have UK addresses but their most recent work experience was in India...
If they are on Work Visas or are otherwise authorized to work in the UK, then does it make a difference? In the States, you are not theoretically supposed to discriminate between visa holders, residents or citizens. (though all groups insist they are discriminated upon).
Regards, Nish
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Normally I would say fail straight away, but my two best candidates both have UK addresses but their most recent work experience was in India...
It doesn't belong there.
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Normally I would say fail straight away, but my two best candidates both have UK addresses but their most recent work experience was in India...
Caslen wrote:
but my two best candidates
Aiming low?
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If they are on Work Visas or are otherwise authorized to work in the UK, then does it make a difference? In the States, you are not theoretically supposed to discriminate between visa holders, residents or citizens. (though all groups insist they are discriminated upon).
Regards, Nish
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Actually, a H1-b visa can only be technically issued if a company makes a good effort approach to find qualified residents first. * The employer will not displace any similarly employed U.S. worker within 90 days before or after applying for H-1B status, or an extension of status for any H-1B worker; * The employer will not place any H-1B worker employed pursuant to the LCA at the worksite of another employer unless the employer first makes a bona fide inquiry as to whether the other employer has displaced or intends to displace a similarly employed U.S. worker within 90 days before or after the placement of the H-1B worker; and * The employer, before applying for H-1B status for any alien worker pursuant to an H-1B LCA, took good faith steps to recruit U.S. workers for the job for which the alien worker is sought, at wages at least equal to those offered to the H-1B worker. Also, the employer will offer the job to any U.S. worker who applies and is equally or better qualified than the H-1B worker. This attestation does not apply if the H-1B worker is a "priority worker" (see Section 203(b) (1) (A), (B), or (C) of the INA). http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/h1b.htm[^]
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Actually, a H1-b visa can only be technically issued if a company makes a good effort approach to find qualified residents first. * The employer will not displace any similarly employed U.S. worker within 90 days before or after applying for H-1B status, or an extension of status for any H-1B worker; * The employer will not place any H-1B worker employed pursuant to the LCA at the worksite of another employer unless the employer first makes a bona fide inquiry as to whether the other employer has displaced or intends to displace a similarly employed U.S. worker within 90 days before or after the placement of the H-1B worker; and * The employer, before applying for H-1B status for any alien worker pursuant to an H-1B LCA, took good faith steps to recruit U.S. workers for the job for which the alien worker is sought, at wages at least equal to those offered to the H-1B worker. Also, the employer will offer the job to any U.S. worker who applies and is equally or better qualified than the H-1B worker. This attestation does not apply if the H-1B worker is a "priority worker" (see Section 203(b) (1) (A), (B), or (C) of the INA). http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/h1b.htm[^]
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Yeah, that's so for H1. But people on F2/L2 are authorized to work in the US, but employers assume there will be Visa hassles and such folks usually have a very hard time getting jobs.
Regards, Nish
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If they are on Work Visas or are otherwise authorized to work in the UK, then does it make a difference? In the States, you are not theoretically supposed to discriminate between visa holders, residents or citizens. (though all groups insist they are discriminated upon).
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com (recently moved from web-host to wordpress)
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
If they are on Work Visas or are otherwise authorized to work in the UK, then does it make a difference?
As far as the work goes no, but it might be a problem getting to the work since the employee would be required to travel throughout europe and the USA something that was clearly stated in the job posting
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Caslen wrote:
but my two best candidates
Aiming low?
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
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It doesn't belong there.
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Nearly 3 million unemployed in this country, 18 applicants, 10 of which require or might require a visa to work, what can you do? :^)
I know, it is a tough, double edged sword. Many refuse to work for less. hotels won't lower their rates, restaurants (except for Taco Bell) cost more, Government is increasing taxes to cover shortfalls instead of cutting spending, the Baby Boom generation is retiring, and teachers are giving A's to copy-and-paste from Wikipedia research papers in High School and a businesses in the middle whose investments in tech and process are finally maturing can't take advantage of the situation. Something has to give.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
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Nearly 3 million unemployed in this country, 18 applicants, 10 of which require or might require a visa to work, what can you do? :^)
If they need visas then this could be an extra cost to you. There are various hoops to jump through and red tape to tie up.
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Nearly 3 million unemployed in this country, 18 applicants, 10 of which require or might require a visa to work, what can you do? :^)
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Nearly 3 million unemployed in this country, 18 applicants, 10 of which require or might require a visa to work, what can you do? :^)
I graduated around a year back from a US university and everywhere I go i see more Indians interviewing *and hired* :rolleyes: than Americans, beats me. Aren't there supposed to be a lot of unemployed Americans around? And no they are not hired at lower packages(in fact it implies added VISA processing fees) compared to their American peers, so it isn't cheap labor.
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I graduated around a year back from a US university and everywhere I go i see more Indians interviewing *and hired* :rolleyes: than Americans, beats me. Aren't there supposed to be a lot of unemployed Americans around? And no they are not hired at lower packages(in fact it implies added VISA processing fees) compared to their American peers, so it isn't cheap labor.
I are n00b.
Goto Dice.com Search for a C# job (area does not matter) Try and talk to someone who isn't from India. The payout for recruiters is so lucrative that placing even one candidate is enough to cover the cost of living for a year in many countries (my assumption based on the annual wage in U.S. dollars of said countries and considering a $5/hr commission can be 20 grand a year). Such a market incentives fishing. There is virtually no cost for a recruitment firm to start. HR is FLOODED WITH resumes, anecdotally most are from the same background as the recruiters because of the language barrier and from what I have seen on the resumes many are copy and past lies. So if the vast majority of your candidates lie on their resumes and have such poor language skills when you call, what is the average H.R. person to think when they find an honest resume from a local? It is a volume game right now.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
If they are on Work Visas or are otherwise authorized to work in the UK, then does it make a difference?
As far as the work goes no, but it might be a problem getting to the work since the employee would be required to travel throughout europe and the USA something that was clearly stated in the job posting
Caslen wrote:
As far as the work goes no, but it might be a problem getting to the work since the employee would be required to travel throughout europe and the USA something that was clearly stated in the job posting
Yeah that would add a level of difficulty. Though it's not that hard to get Business visas to the US, Canada and multiple entry Schengen Visas to the EU countries. But I get your point.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com (recently moved from web-host to wordpress)
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Goto Dice.com Search for a C# job (area does not matter) Try and talk to someone who isn't from India. The payout for recruiters is so lucrative that placing even one candidate is enough to cover the cost of living for a year in many countries (my assumption based on the annual wage in U.S. dollars of said countries and considering a $5/hr commission can be 20 grand a year). Such a market incentives fishing. There is virtually no cost for a recruitment firm to start. HR is FLOODED WITH resumes, anecdotally most are from the same background as the recruiters because of the language barrier and from what I have seen on the resumes many are copy and past lies. So if the vast majority of your candidates lie on their resumes and have such poor language skills when you call, what is the average H.R. person to think when they find an honest resume from a local? It is a volume game right now.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
Maybe that's true for contract jobs but I'm talking fresh grad jobs when nobody has learned to lie on their resumes yet. I still see companies calling in more Indians for interviews than Americans....oh wait where i graduated from there were 80% Indians as grad. students and I was in a decent university and a costly one at that...is that the problem?
I are n00b.
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Normally I would say fail straight away, but my two best candidates both have UK addresses but their most recent work experience was in India...
Ask them.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
If they are on Work Visas or are otherwise authorized to work in the UK, then does it make a difference?
As far as the work goes no, but it might be a problem getting to the work since the employee would be required to travel throughout europe and the USA something that was clearly stated in the job posting
If you are UK based and paid then you are allowed to travel to (and work for short periods in) most countries without requiring work visas; I did that for the last 15 years of my employment. However you may need a travel visa just to enter certain countries such as USA, Middle East, India etc.
It's time for a new signature.
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Maybe it should be in the covering letter then - either way since it has a significant bearing on the applicants ability to do he job it should be somewhere, shouldn't it?
In theory, it has no bearing on the applicant's ability.